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Hockey......Blah!!!!!!! Especially in Boston these days....that team has done nothing but get rid of their only good players in recent years and replaced them with a bunch of bums. what about the rest of Beantowns teams.....Lets take a look Red Sox acquired Dice-K, Okajima, jd drew, julio Lugo, Gagne and have been a top contender to win the world series all season, Patriots acquired wes welker, donte stallworth, Randy Moss, amongst others and are top contenders to win the Super Bowl, The Celtics acquired Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett and are top contenders to win the NBA championship, then there is the Bruins what have they done to place them as contenders.....nothing its a damn shame and I feel that they are going to have a lot of those buy 1 get 1 free games due to poor sales and attendance numbers, management needs to make a move before the revolution jump ahead in the ranks even though i already think they have.

so with that I HATE HOCKEY!!!!!(always have)
 
I'd love to watch the NHL, I just can't find it on television.

Besides, basketball is going on at the same time. Can't miss March Madness or the NBA playoffs. Isn't the NBA catching up on the NHL when it comes to international players?
 
66 >>>>>> 99

Sorry, but 66 is better.

Also, Pens >>>>>> Caps.

*runs and hides from Kit*

hehehehehe

Talk about being a "homer" :rotfl

Sorry son, but 99 is the greatest ever. Pens fans always try to argue the oppisite from through their "homer" eyes. No one can ever compair to what Gretzky did. Also, please don't use the lame "but if Mary-O had not gotten sick" argument. He DID get sick and yes that did limit his numbers, but part of being the greatest all time is not only having other worldly talent like both 99 and 66, but also staying healthy and being able to put those numbers up.

99>66 Period.

As for the Pens>Caps. Yeah, I know. You have 2 cups and we have zero. You made the playoffs last year and we didn't. You usually beat us in the playoffs.

See? Even a Caps "homer" can be real about facts. Now, can a Pens "homer" do the same? Doubtful :D
 
Talk about being a "homer" :rotfl

Sorry son, but 99 is the greatest ever. Pens fans always try to argue the oppisite from through their "homer" eyes. No one can ever compair to what Gretzky did. Also, please don't use the lame "but if Mary-O had not gotten sick" argument. He DID get sick and yes that did limit his numbers, but part of being the greatest all time is not only having other worldly talent like both 99 and 66, but also staying healthy and being able to put those numbers up.

99>66 Period.

As for the Pens>Caps. Yeah, I know. You have 2 cups and we have zero. You made the playoffs last year and we didn't. You usually beat us in the playoffs.

See? Even a Caps "homer" can be real about facts. Now, can a Pens "homer" do the same? Doubtful :D

There was an "unwritten rule" by the NHL to not hit or attempt to hurt Wayne Gretzky. Players often took it easily on Gretz because the NHL didn't want their "Golden Boy" and "Meal Ticket" to get hurt. Plus the protection he received was nuts. Granted Gretz did take a good hit from USA defenseman Gary Suter in the World Cup tournament. Having said that, it was later in No. 99's career when he wasn't nearly as dominate as he was in the 80's offensive haydays.

Mario Lemieux never had that kind of protection. He was hit, dogged, and you name it. Earlier in No. 66's career it was Wayne who sold the NHL product. Then later on, especially after Lemieux came back from out of retirement in 2001, the Magnificent One was that meal ticket for a three year period. Now it's Sidney Crosby, but even then, Sid the Kid doesn't get the same kind of protection as Gretz did.

I am not biased. Sure my favorite player of all-time is Mario Lemieux and my current fav is Sidney Crosby, but that's just pure coincidence. hehe

Also, I was bugging you about the Washington Crapitals, errr I mean Washed up Capitals... I MEAN WASHINGTON CAPITALS!!!

Kit, I love having you on these forums because both our teams are great adversaries. Makes for good heated banter. Gotta say, on my fantasy team I have as many Capitals on it as I do Penguins. mmm Alexander Semin...

Think Semin could score 50 goals despite playing on the second line having one of Viktor Kozlov or Niklas Backstrom as his potential centerman?
 
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This blows goats for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Poor JFJ and the Leafs just can't seem to get a break.

Leafs' Bell to serve 6 months in DUI deal
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Toronto Maple Leafs forward Mark Bell has pleaded no contest to drunk driving and hit-and-run charges and will serve six months in a Santa Clara County jail, a prosecutor said Wednesday.

Bell, who was traded to the Leafs by the San Jose Sharks in June, had faced nearly four years in state prison if convicted of the original charges. He entered the plea Tuesday in Santa Clara County Superior Court, said prosecutor Cindy Seeley Hendrickson.

Bell issued a statement Wednesday, saying he had entered the plea bargain so he could "accept full responsibility for my error in judgment."

Said Leafs GM John Ferguson: "Mark has accepted responsibility for his actions, and the Leafs organization will support Mark through this challenging time."
 
Talk about being a "homer" :rotfl

Sorry son, but 99 is the greatest ever. Pens fans always try to argue the oppisite from through their "homer" eyes. No one can ever compair to what Gretzky did. Also, please don't use the lame "but if Mary-O had not gotten sick" argument. He DID get sick and yes that did limit his numbers, but part of being the greatest all time is not only having other worldly talent like both 99 and 66, but also staying healthy and being able to put those numbers up.

99>66 Period.

with all due respect to wayne-o, his talents came upon the hockey scene when the game itself was in transition from brutal smashmouth, to skating and speed. you can say wayne-o was the first skate and speed combo and with the ice filled with hit first and ask questions later players not being allowed to smash him, he free skated his way into the record books. the lack of contact allowed against him reminded me of an all-star game. his timing was excellent for what he had to offer to the game and he racked up the points to prove it. ever wonder why players can barely hit 50 goals in a season today? i've always wondered how well he'd do in today's game.
 
with all due respect to wayne-o, his talents came upon the hockey scene when the game itself was in transition from brutal smashmouth, to skating and speed. you can say wayne-o was the first skate and speed combo and with the ice filled with hit first and ask questions later players not being allowed to smash him, he free skated his way into the record books. the lack of contact allowed against him reminded me of an all-star game. his timing was excellent for what he had to offer to the game and he racked up the points to prove it. ever wonder why players can barely hit 50 goals in a season today? i've always wondered how well he'd do in today's game.

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with all due respect to wayne-o, his talents came upon the hockey scene when the game itself was in transition from brutal smashmouth, to skating and speed. you can say wayne-o was the first skate and speed combo and with the ice filled with hit first and ask questions later players not being allowed to smash him, he free skated his way into the record books. the lack of contact allowed against him reminded me of an all-star game. his timing was excellent for what he had to offer to the game and he racked up the points to prove it. ever wonder why players can barely hit 50 goals in a season today? i've always wondered how well he'd do in today's game.

You make a great point but let's not forget that he was branded "The Great One" as a 12 year old. That's a lot of pressure to put on a kid.

I think he'd be an elite player in his prime now, but not the greatest of all time.
 
This is not a comparrison of players who played decades apart. They at the the same time and 99 was in the league only a few years ( 5 ) before 66 ( 1979 vs 1984 )

I have never once said Lemieux was not great, but THE greatest ever? No, Gretzky is. You could make an argument the even Howe was a better all around player, but I'll give Mary-O the # 2 slot behind Wayne.

Arguing Mario was better is somthing that usually only comes from Pens fans and very few people outside Pens fans ( there are some of course ).


As for Semin scoring 50 goals. If he can keep his attitude in check maybe.
 
This is not a comparrison of players who played decades apart. They at the the same time and 99 was in the league only a few years ( 5 ) before 66 ( 1979 vs 1984 )

I have never once said Lemieux was not great, but THE greatest ever? No, Gretzky is. You could make an argument the even Howe was a better all around player, but I'll give Mary-O the # 2 slot behind Wayne.

Arguing Mario was better is somthing that usually only comes from Pens fans and very few people outside Pens fans ( there are some of course ).


As for Semin scoring 50 goals. If he can keep his attitude in check maybe.

Kit, you're wrong and I am right. On this anyway. hehe

You know, this is an argument that will never be won. You can't convince me 99 is better than 66 and I can't convince you to change your mind.

Semin's attitude seems to be in check. Only guys attitude I am fearful of is Nikolai Zherdev. I got him in a deal with Semin... and all I can say Ken Hitch**** better let him loose. No suffocating his game as he's famously known for doing. He's a defense first... offense second coach. High on the physical and hard on you if you're one dimensional. Thing is Zherdev is a pure offensive player. His skill is with the puck. When he's not on the puck he's useless and he seems too stubborn and immature to play into Hitch's system. Ken is too stubborn to let a young ego inflated Russian get the best of him.

Kit, and anyone else who's hockey savvy, what do you think of my trade?

I get:

Alexander Semin, Nikolai Zherdev, and Patrick Eaves.

I traded off:

Ales Hemsky, J.P. Dumont, and Chris Phillips.

Already had six solid dmen, and Eaves should play on the top 2 lines with the Sens. Especially now that Peter Schaefer was sent packing to Boston. Seems like Heatley and Spezza enjoyed playing with Eaves and like the potential of him sticking on that line. Alfredsson would be better suited on the second line to give two good scoring lines with superstars on each line vs. one super line which was nearly shutout in the Stanley Cup Finals against Anaheim.

Here is what the two top lines in Ottawa could look like:

Heatley-Spezza-Eaves
Vermette-Fisher-Alfredsson

Worse case scenario, if the Senators didn't learn from the Cup Finals that one super line doesn't cut it, a line of Vermette-Fisher-Eaves doesn't look half bad either.

Either way I have a feeling Eaves could get 25-25 to 30-30 in numbers depending which line he lands on. Can't see him getting third line minutes again.
 
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btw Kit, I hope your Washington Capitals make the playoffs and meet my Penguins and go up 3-1 or even 3-0 in the series, because we all know what the end result will be. :D

How many playoff series leads did Washington blow against Pittsburgh??? :lol
 
We blew a few against the Pens as well as the Islanders and other teams. Only time was came back from down 3-1 was against the Flyers when Hunter scored that breakaway goal in game 7.

We have a wonderful reputation of being chokers.
 
You pick your players like you pick your teams. hehe

I can't wait for the new season to begin. Oh wait, I can. I am not through with Summer yet. Even though its reared its ugly head at me. :(
 
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