Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (June 30th, 2023)

[Wor-Gar]

Nazis on the Moon...

Wasn't that a really bad movie?




EDIT: Iron Sky

 

[jedibear]

CHAPEK IS TOAST! Iger back at Disney. Wonder what this means for this dumpster fire of a movie?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Bob Iger un-retired to get Chapek out.

 

[abake]

Damn... that is some high profile failure.

 

[Johnny Utah]

CHAPEK IS TOAST! Iger back at Disney. Wonder what this means for this dumpster fire of a movie?

Oh wow you've seen it? Can you send me a link, because I've only seen the D23 trailer in bad quality.

 

[punisher1974]

If classic Nick Fury can fight WWII in space. No reason Jones can't fight some Space Nazis too!

I love the fact that Fury is so badass that he is smoking his cigar in his helmet.

 

[Mondragon]

I love the fact that Fury is so badass that he is smoking his cigar in his helmet.

Love it. While that issue wasn't by Steranko, after Kirby, Steranko did help define the look and tone for the more Adventure seeking Nick Fury for a generation which included Lucas and Spielberg. Not as celebrated as McQuarrie is for SW, Steranko (amongst many other influences Bogart, Lad's China, Heston's Incas, Spy Smasher, Zorro and other serials etc..) then helped realize the design and presence of Indiana Jones (chomping cigarillo here), as well as his illustrations for Rober E Howard's El Borak (sadly even less known by todays supposed fandom) , which Lucas referenced as a starting template. (Lucas' actual notes on Steranko's El Borak)

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

At a loss for originality, at least they picked the greatest Indy villain to rehash.

It amazes me just how exact it is to Toht. The trench coat has the very same wrist straps and the main belt with twin buckles, not to mention the round glasses and black hat. The similarity is unsettling. But perhaps I'll get a good "Toht" figure out of this movie.

Ii wonder if he'll do a melty face too.

 

[choombaz]

Spoiler

https://variety.com/2022/artisans/n...rrison-ford-first-look-photos-1235436821/amp/

 

[Mondragon]

Spoiler

https://variety.com/2022/artisans/n...rrison-ford-first-look-photos-1235436821/amp/

The de-aging technology is only used in the film’s opening scene, which is set in a castle in 1944 and pits Indiana against a group of Nazis.
“Then we fall out, and you find yourself in 1969,” said director James Mangold, ...“So that the audience doesn’t experience the change between the ‘40s and ‘60s as an intellectual conceit, but literally experiences the buccaneering spirit of those early days… and then the beginning of now.”

Sounds fun, love a good flashback opening, and transition....(back to "now")

The bulk of “Indiana Jones 5” takes place in 1969 and is set against the space run. The movie will return the franchise to its “Raiders of the Lost Ark” roots by having Indiana face off against the Nazis once again (hence the 1944 opening).

“The simple fact is that the moon-landing program was run by a bunch of ex-Nazis,” ...“How ‘ex’ they are is the question. ...”
Mads Mikkelsen is playing the “Indiana Jones 5” villain, a man named Voller who is inspired by real-life Nazi-turned-NASA-engineer Wernher von Braun. The actor teased, “He’s a man who would like to correct some of the mistakes of the past. There is something that could make the world a much better place to live in. He would love to get his hands on it. Indiana Jones wants to get his hands on it as well. And so, we have a story.”

I like the space-race setting.
Though whats the supernatural/mythological meta-macguffin quest?
Is it some (reimagined Atlantias artifact?) that allows time-travel? Or an opportunity to "change" something in the past?

 

[ShadowGuardian]

Indy looks like he's about to crumble into dust.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Indiana Jones has become Dirty Old Man

 

[Raiders March]

While it's easy to discount the upside-down ice bucket-wearing putz and his constant whining, it's pretty hard to ignore Kennedy's track record. That alone is enough to make me want to skip this and surf through it on D+ when it ends up there a month after it c & b's in the theater. More out of morbid curiosity than anything. Indy's movie exploits ended for me when we collectively watched Henry, Sallah, Brody & "Junior" riding off into the sunset at the end of "Last Crusade"....

Yep, and that was Spielbergs intention. A nice bookend to the series, he wasn’t super into doing Crystal! I remember walking out at the end of it feeling a little bit empty and deflated. It has likeable parts, but the *—-*ing swinging Shia and monkeys was cringeworthy to say the least

 

[Wor-Gar]

Crystal Skull was no one's best work.

 

[loki2371]

Crystal Skull is an Oscar contender compared to most **** coming out today.

While I get the disdain for it, its far better than what Disney has done to Lucasfilm with the Star Wars ST and Solo. I can't even imagine what this is gonna turn out like. Everyone is gonna be praising Crystal Skull after Kennedy's Indy 5 comes out. Just like all the love that suddenly the hated PT gets. PT merch sells pretty damn good now a days.

I'd rather be tied up and forced to watch Crystal Skull 100x over having to view Disney's ST or Solo even one more time. He'll. I've never even watched TROS and still choose the torture of watching Crystal Skull.

 

[choombaz]

Crystal Skull was no one's best work.

But what about the monkeys?

 

[Wor-Gar]

I dunno... I find Crystal Skull horribly unwatchable too. There's almost nothing I can sit through short of the atomic mushroom cloud shot and the flying saucer/rocks spinning/sea flooding climax shot. Yep, two shots in the whole damn thing.

The warehouse is boring, the motorcycle chase is boring, the trip to Mexico is boring, Indy being captured, meeting Marion and getting hypnotized is beyond boring, the one action sequence they do have is filled with preposterous CGI stunts (sword fighting on bumping vehicles with time for slapping-crotch gag) and other embarrassing gags (monkeys) and the ants are silly. Then a long, long walk through a myriad of sets to the alien showdown. "I vant to know!"

 

[choombaz]

I dunno... I find Crystal Skull horribly unwatchable too. There's almost nothing I can sit through short of the atomic mushroom cloud shot and the flying saucer/rocks spinning/sea flooding climax shot. Yep, two shots in the whole damn thing.

The warehouse is boring, the motorcycle chase is boring, the trip to Mexico is boring, Indy being captured, meeting Marion and getting hypnotized is beyond boring, the one action sequence they do have is filled with preposterous CGI stunts (sword fighting on bumping vehicles with time for slapping-crotch gag) and other embarrassing gags (monkeys) and the ants are silly.

I will say, being forced to watch it constantly with my son, the motorcycle chase is actually pretty decent, all live action, no visible cg, the low angle photography, the cutting, actually seeing the actors on the bike together riding it (not assisted by any hidden supports at times as well) and the invention of the gags is Last Crusade level.

Clearly I’ve seen this abomination far too many times.

 

[Wor-Gar]

If you like skidding into a library and being shushed, have at it. The bikes feel like they're moving so slow to me -- which they are when Harrison's onboard.

Last Crusade is also a massive offender of action sequences -- adding unnecessary jokes and gags constantly (like a bad Roger Moore Bond movie) with very little suspense or thrill or logic. It is however light-years ahead of Crystal Skull in terms of having action in an action movie.

 

[choombaz]

I’m just trying to have a balanced view about the worst film ever made by major filmmakers lol. The series got more clunky and clutzy with every instalment to the point of true embarrassment. 5 has nowhere to go but up? Hahahaha.