Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of The Crystal Skull Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Finally got around to seeing this for the first time tonight. Maybe it's because I had negative expectations for this based on the boards reaction, but I'll be damned if it didn't make me feel all warm inside seeing Indy on the screen again. It was stupid as all get out but hot damn I had a blast watching it.
 
I was going to watch Rambo on HD on Demand until I read there's an explicit rape scene in the movie. I *hate* seeing any kind of sexual assaults in movies. How bad is it? Otherwise I really want to see it.

I don't know whose reviews you read. The so-called rape scene is literally a guy smacking a girl around before pushing her down to the ground and as he starts taking off his pants, Rambo interrupts (I've seen more explicit scenes on Law & Order). The only other scene you could be talking about is coated in red smoke (from a smoke grenade) so anything really "visual" or "explicit" isn't remotely memorable or the aforementioned "explicite."

The thing that bothers me about the criticism is that people say why Aliens?
Well, the bad guys are soviet communists and so they would probably be atheists too.
The Russians would have no interest in a religious artifact.

That's kinda naive. Soviet communists were athiests?! :rotfl Where'd you come up with that? Let me guess, just because they were the bad guys they have no faith, right? Here's some good reading that will establish a foundation for a counter argument: Russian Orthodox.
 
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That's kinda naive. Soviet communists were athiests?! :rotfl Where'd you come up with that? Let me guess, just because they were the bad guys they have no faith, right? Here's some good reading that will establish a foundation for a counter argument: Russian Orthodox.

You might like to read your own references a bit closer - quote from the Wiki page: "The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion."

I do get what you're saying, that religion continued to exist under Soviet rule (obviously, as the Russian Church is still active today), but the fact remains that the die-hard, "true" believers in Stalin's vision would have no belief in, or tolerance for, religious power.
 
You might like to read your own references a bit closer - quote from the Wiki page: "The Soviet Union was the first state to have as an ideological objective the elimination of religion."

I do get what you're saying, that religion continued to exist under Soviet rule (obviously, as the Russian Church is still active today), but the fact remains that the die-hard, "true" believers in Stalin's vision would have no belief in, or tolerance for, religious power.

I know, I did get that but throughout, the Russian Orthodox practice remained and even several of Stalin's closest friends and advisers were practicing Eastern Orothox. That's a stark contrast to inferring that every Communist during the Cold War was an atheist.
 
I know, I did get that but throughout, the Russian Orthodox practice remained and even several of Stalin's closest friends and advisers were practicing Eastern Orothox. That's a stark contrast to inferring that every Communist during the Cold War was an atheist.

Yes, but compare that to the number of priests, etc, who Stalin had executed.... Official doctrine of the Soviet Union was anti-church, and in a regime where during rallies applause for Stalin sometimes lasted hours simply because people were afraid of being seen as the first person to stop clapping, I imagine those advisors and friends were as such despite their beliefs, rather than because of them. As a plot point, a Soviet government directed search for a powerful religious artifact would be problematic, since acknowledging its existence would go against doctrine, something that it was very important not to do. Now, if they were seeking it to destroy it or hide its existence from the people in order to further their anti-religion agenda, well that I can buy, but then plot exposition becomes even more dull and the level of "danger" posed by not letting the "bad guys" get to the artifact first goes down considerably.

Am I really attempting to apply logic to Indiana Jones plot development? :monkey1
 
but then plot exposition becomes even more dull and the level of "danger" posed by not letting the "bad guys" get to the artifact first goes down considerably.

Am I really attempting to apply logic to Indiana Jones plot development? :monkey1

In every single Indy movie, the bad guys get the artifact anyway. Belloq got the fertility idol AND the Ark. The Gangsters got their daimond and Mola Ram got the Shinkara stones. The Germans once again got both the diary AND the grail in the last movie too. I think they could've actually just gone with the Mystery behind the real crystal skulls, made the Russians seek them out to destroy them, and it would've been a hell of a lot better ride. By the end of the movie, even Indy was like WTF?!
 
I thought Indy had some notable "badass" moments in the graveyard scene. I wonder if people would go for a KOTCS PF of Indy resting a shovel on his shoulder.
 
Did you know that one of the asian guys he fights in the graveyard was the kid in the Red sonja movie ( original )

Ernie Reyes Jr.! I spotted him in the extra features. He was also a turtle in TMNT and the main human in TMNT 2.
Yeah, I liked Ninja Turtles a lot....:monkey3
 
I wonder if people would go for a KOTCS PF of Indy resting a shovel on his shoulder.

Nope. The only other Indy PF I want to see is ToD Indy, ripped shirt with the machete over his shoulder, or hanging by his side like in the poster. I'll also take Mola Ram and Henry Sr. in PF, but nothing else beyond that.
 
That's kinda naive. Soviet communists were athiests?! :rotfl Where'd you come up with that? Let me guess, just because they were the bad guys they have no faith, right? Here's some good reading that will establish a foundation for a counter argument: Russian Orthodox.

Sorry did I say russians? No I said the Soviet communists.
My wife is Russian and I have visted Russia many times
I'm fully aware of the culture.
I was not talking of individual faith but of the Soviet government and military point of view at that time.
Also keep your insults to yourself . Spasibo i Do svidaniya
 
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