Is this going overboard or being responsible?

[OSCORP]

Sounds gay!

 

[Rook]

Is Quesada gonna be at SDCC? Should a bunch of us get together and strongarm him?

 

[Khev]

Sounds gay!

Quesada has no problem with gay superheroes as long as they don't smoke.

 

[Filthyrich]

Do kids even read many of the titles marvel puts out. Seems overboard. Anything with a teen or mature rating on it should have extra smoking in it imo.

 

[Bardoon]

Even though I'll be quick to point out Quesada's faults...I still believe he is overall a HUGELY positive force on Marvel and his positive accomplishments far outweigh is negative ones.

-He helped formulate and create the "Ultimate" line as well as other imprints such as MAX title and Marvel Knights.

-He brought Marvel out of the 1990's and their bankruptcy, not only building the company back up but making it grow. Expanding into Hollywood once again with some amazing comic book-to-movie transitions (Hey...even though some weren't so great it was still cool to see it happen!)

-He has pushed the "regular" and non-mutant Marvel Universe characters to new lengths and popularity they have NEVER seen before. Since when have Captain America, Iron Man and even the Avengers been able to stand toe-to-toe with the X-Men?

-He has led the way for some AMAZINGLY popular and well-written storylines. Including CIVIL WAR, ANNIHILATION, and heck...maybe even Messiah Complex. Or how about 'The Death of Captain America'?

-He has put together and KEPT together some great creative teams and talent, not to mention Brian Hitch/Mark Millar, Brian Michael Bendis titles, J.Michael Strazcynski on Amazing Spider-man (one of the best writers on Spidey EVER imo). Let's also not forget other talent like Steve McNiven, Jeph Loeb, Ed McGuiness, Salvador LaRocca, David Finch, Ed Brubaker, Steve Epting, Chris Bachalo, Stuart Immonen, Oliver Copiel, Marko Djourko (sp?) and many others.

It's easy to jump down on Quesada...I do it myself. But I have to be honest and say that he is the BEST thing to happen to Marvel in a long time. He isn't some random businessman, he GREW UP in the comic business, he had the SAME trials and tribulations that other comic creators have had. You want this guy as your leader because he KNOWS what you have gone through.

We wouldn't have some of the great Marvel stories we've had lately without Quesada, we might not even have all the wonderful Marvel movies we've had as well. Sure he's NOT perfect (OMD/BND anyone?) but I am extremely happy he's Editor-in-Chief and I hope he stays there for a long time.

 

[djklambake]

Here's the thing - I smoke and I'm not dead yet. No cancer either. It's my belief that since cigarettes haven't killed me, they'll never kill anyone like Nick Fury or Wolverine - fictional characters who are still way more badass than I'll ever be in real life. Suck it Quesada...

/thinks retcon Spidey with the devil sucks as well.

 

[Bonehead15]

-He helped formulate and create the "Ultimate" line as well as other imprints such as MAX title and Marvel Knights.

-He has led the way for some AMAZINGLY popular and well-written storylines. Including CIVIL WAR, ANNIHILATION, and heck...maybe even Messiah Complex. Or how about 'The Death of Captain America'?

No offense but both of those points are subject to opinion.

If you liked those books then yes he did a good job, but many Marvel fans felt the opposite. The only book that I think everyone liked was Annihilation which Joe had almost absolutely nothing to do with. Ironic isn't it.

-He has pushed the "regular" and non-mutant Marvel Universe characters to new lengths and popularity they have NEVER seen before. Since when have Captain America, Iron Man and even the Avengers been able to stand toe-to-toe with the X-Men?

Maybe I'm just an old fart or you are too young, probably the first, but it wasn't until the very early 90's that Marvel forgot about their non-mutant books. Back in the 80's the Avengers were king at marvel. Fantastic Four during Byrnes run was it's best selling book. To say those books never got pushed is down right wrong. Jim Shooter and Tom DeFalco both pushed the core books heavily.

It was only only after the Jim Lee/X-cartoon push of the 90's that the X-men jumped in popularity. Uncanny jumped about 85% from '89 to '92. The X-Men were Claremont's book so Marvel never questioned anything about the book. It had a very loyal cult following and sold well but it never did numbers like Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Avengers, or Spidey.

He isn't some random businessman, he GREW UP in the comic business, he had the SAME trials and tribulations that other comic creators have had. You want this guy as your leader because he KNOWS what you have gone through.

That's the part that p***es me off the most. He's a comic fan himself but he constantly screws with the characters. That's pathetic and a slap in the face to fans everywhere.

That's all. I'm getting off my soapbox now.

 

[floppy hat jon]

Here's the thing - I smoke and I'm not dead yet. No cancer either. It's my belief that since cigarettes haven't killed me, they'll never kill anyone like Nick Fury or Wolverine - fictional characters who are still way more badass than I'll ever be in real life. Suck it Quesada...

/thinks retcon Spidey with the devil sucks as well.

Dude, cancer takes a long time to show up. Quit now.

Anyway, back on topic: don't really care if super-/anti-heroes smoke or not.

 

[Bardoon]

No offense but both of those points are subject to opinion.

If you liked those books then yes he did a good job, but many Marvel fans felt the opposite. The only book that I think everyone liked was Annihilation which Joe had almost absolutely nothing to do with. Ironic isn't it.





Maybe I'm just an old fart or you are too young, probably the first, but it wasn't until the very early 90's that Marvel forgot about their non-mutant books. Back in the 80's the Avengers were king at marvel. Fantastic Four during Byrnes run was it's best selling book. To say those books never got pushed is down right wrong. Jim Shooter and Tom DeFalco both pushed the core books heavily.

It was only only after the Jim Lee/X-cartoon push of the 90's that the X-men jumped in popularity. Uncanny jumped about 85% from '89 to '92. The X-Men were Claremont's book so Marvel never questioned anything about the book. It had a very loyal cult following and sold well but it never did numbers like Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, Avengers, or Spidey.




That's the part that p***es me off the most. He's a comic fan himself but he constantly screws with the characters. That's pathetic and a slap in the face to fans everywhere.

That's all. I'm getting off my soapbox now.

I'm 25...so when I started "reading" (I state that as I would get some here and there but was too young to be collecting) some comics wasn't till the early 90's...to me, Cap, Iron Man and the Avengers were never as popular and cool as the X-Men. I grew up during Lee's run and mutants became uber-cool.

I remember how Cap was plagued with being "Cap-Wolf"...how Avengers who run to the ground and had spin-off like West Coast Avengers and eventually Force Works. I dunno what the FF and Iron Man were doing. I then recall the whole Heroes Reborn books as well...to me, it was a rough time for the core Marvel books.

I'd think with the major storylines they at least HAVE to be run by Quesada who gives them the green light or not...maybe even contributing a few ideas. Who knows what exactly are his rights & responsibilities as Editor-in-Chief except for Marvel itself?

 

[djklambake]

Dude, cancer takes a long time to show up. Quit now.

Anyway, back on topic: don't really care if super-/anti-heroes smoke or not.

I know, I know... I'm on my way.

 

[Jase]

 

[Shai]

Wolverine made me smoke.

 

[djklambake]

That's got me harder than a week-old biscuit!