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Thats a 300.00 dollar Bio with a 1000.00 dollar price tag, not worth it IMO...

BINGO! Well Said.

For about 2 months I had a chubby for this thing but when I thought about it, $1000??!?!? Its a rip off. Ill just settle for Sideshows (superior) bios that seems to be scheduled for regular releases (1 per year maybe?). If you buy those at cost, thats almost 4 for 1.

Im sure someday theyll come out with a Predator 1 bio until then, save your money for a real grail like a Predator bust or a CM............
 
I think it's worth every penny. You're getting a life-sized bust that you can wall mount. It's 20"x20", heavy as hell, and to top it off hand-signed by Stan Winston.
 
its not worth the price material wise but it being made from the original mold and signed, id say its worth the price. if you can afford it, doo it, doooo it now :lol

It's not from the original molds, there's no such thing. This piece is not film accurate at all, and a rip. It's not even a full bust, just a half bust that won't stand up on a shelf, you have to wall mount it. The production paint job also looks nothing like that prototype, they really bombed on it. The back half of the helmet has this weathering effect they do that looks like a cat with dusty feet walked all over it.

Also it's not lasers, it's LEDs.

Nice piece, but it's not worth $1000 and it's not from any "original" molds. There are no original molds of the cannon or helmet. HCG staff will insult you and resort to name calling if you try and question them on this, as seen on the Statue Forum. I would never buy anything from a company who actually insults customers that question the background and/or quality of their products... imagine is Sideshow did this?!
 
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I think it's worth every penny. You're getting a life-sized bust that you can wall mount. It's 20"x20", heavy as hell, and to top it off hand-signed by Stan Winston.

It's not a bust at all... it's not even half a head... it's just the front part of the head to mount the helmet on and it's flat on the back. Had this been an actual full bust with a closed mouth sculpt that has a mask that fits over top, then yes, worth the money.
 
Hey Faken if there are no molds then how do HCG get away with saying
that its been cast from the original movie molds??
 
Hey Faken if there are no molds then how do HCG get away with saying
that its been cast from the original movie molds??

Good question, welcome to licensed manufacturing and big company businessmen. They can claim whatever the hell they want, what are you going to do about it? They know 99% of people will take this claim at face value, think they care about guys like me that know better? And when I tried to bring it up, HCG flamed me (and made an ass of himself), the thread was locked down, I was warned not to start it up again and now it's forgotten and people are still posting new threads like this one about this piece being straight from the molds.

I received a prototype of this piece months ago for a review on my site and I sent my initial thoughts for the review to HCG. HCG asked me not to publish this on my site LOL!

The only thing that is not sculpted for this piece is the helmet... John Rosengrant has the only surviving helmet from P1, but it's a stunt bio that was never even used in the film. HCG had this stunt piece recast and that is where the mold comes from for this wallmount thing. You will notice that ALL the details on the helmet are not screen accurate... no ribbing on the temple piece, 2 hose ports instead of 3, the cheek port is wrong and there's a few other details.

And that cannon... Hahaha good god. It's NOTHING like the one from the movie, the only thing accurate is the general shape and it ends there. All you have to do is look at the nice shots of the cannon in Stan's book of the suit just after it was done right outside the SWS shop and compare that to this cannon. It's not even close. When I questioned HCG on the why the cannon was so different, he claimed that the cannon on this wallmount is really what the original looked like, but it was "blown up" on set in Mexico and had to be made from scratch, that's why the one in the movie doesn't look like theirs. Well he's a liar because the pics in the Winston Effect book are of the Cannon BEFORE it shipped to Mexico for filming, not to mention I doubt they made several suits and heads and props, but only 1 cannon.

I used to love HCG, but I am completely disgusted with them now and wouldn't touch ANYTHING they sell with a 10 foot pole.
 
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If I pay 1K for a Bio, I would atleast expect it to have a solid Lens and not some Window Tint Film....
 
If I pay 1K for a Bio, I would atleast expect it to have a solid Lens and not some Window Tint Film....

LOL yep... friggin window tinting film, I couldn't believe it... and the best part is they tried to say that was what they used in the original. That's funny, Steve Wang told me years ago that it was smoked lexan. Oops, HCG lies again! And and as luck would have it, the stunt bio they used as the base for this piece happens to not have any lenses in it, what a fluke!
 
Good question, welcome to licensed manufacturing and big company businessmen. They can claim whatever the hell they want, what are you going to do about it? They know 99% of people will take this claim at face value, think they care about guys like me that know better? And when I tried to bring it up, HCG flamed me (and made an ass of himself), the thread was locked down, I was warned not to start it up again and now it's forgotten and people are still posting new threads like this one about this piece being straight from the molds.

I received a prototype of this piece months ago for a review on my site and I sent my initial thoughts for the review to HCG. HCG asked me not to publish this on my site LOL!

The only thing that is not sculpted for this piece is the helmet... John Rosengrant has the only surviving helmet from P1, but it's a stunt bio that was never even used in the film. HCG had this stunt piece recast and that is where the mold comes from for this wallmount thing. You will notice that ALL the details on the helmet are not screen accurate... no ribbing on the temple piece, 2 hose ports instead of 3, the cheek port is wrong and there's a few other details.

And that cannon... Hahaha good god. It's NOTHING like the one from the movie, the only thing accurate is the general shape and it ends there. All you have to do is look at the nice shots of the cannon in Stan's book of the suit just after it was done right outside the SWS shop and compare that to this cannon. It's not even close.

Thanks for the info Faken. Its now a $100 bio mask.
I think that HCG need to be more honest about their products,
and then they might get some respect from thier future customers.
 
Thanks for the info Faken. Its now a $100 bio mask.
I think that HCG need to be more honest about their products,
and then they might get some respect from thier future customers.

I'll be honest with you here... if this piece was $500 retail, then it would be worth it, and I would buy one. But what pissed me off is that HCG is charging DOUBLE that and trying to justify it my saying it's from the original molds, it has a COA signed by Stan blah blah... gimme a friggin break. I love Stan, I miss him and I was devastated when he died, but the man must be rolling in his grave at the thought of companies trying to ride his name to the bank like this.

So if this was $500 and they weren't trying that crap about it being from the actual molds and such, the price would be OK. But for $1000 and making claims like that, you're asking for trouble.

Oh and they also cut the production on these pieces from 1000 to 500... why? Because HCG says they just realized that Stan only signed half of them before he died. Buulllllshhiiiitttt.... They're just not selling and they know they're going to be stuck with a mountain of these things for years to come.
 
Not worth it, and I completely agree with Faken. That's alot of money for something that is not 100% acurate, you could go to all the prop builders who produce an A1 replica and make this set up yourself for a damn sight less, apart from the signature of course.

The inside of the bio looks fantastic, nice to see one finished on the inside but it's not worth that price tag by amy stretch!
 
Faken, do you happen to have any pics of it? You know, in hand pics.

Unfortunately I never took pics of my prototype because they didn't what me to publish my review online, but I did take some video of it:

https://www.predatorstuff.com/junk/fortom.zip

In the video I am asking about some of the inaccuracies and one of the things I bring up is the mesh. It turns out that the mesh is accurate, you can see it in a couple of scenes on bluray, so disregard that part about the mesh on the lens. Other than that, all other complaints on accuracy are valid.

Dan
 
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