Now the two-pack is priced at $1700.
No wonder Kit said $2000.
No wonder Kit said $2000.
Yup, that's most likely Kit factoring the shipping cost since he includes it in his pricing and rounding up to a flat $2kNow the two-pack is priced at $1700.
No wonder Kit said $2000.
Agreed on this. I actually get no feeling seeing the same 1000th custom level quality Heath sculpt from this. Looks like every other we've seen throughout the years. But the silicone seamless neck movement, magnetic glass eyes and silicone hands is really cool to see be done at a non-custom level.
What has me wary about this whole thing is what they plan on even pricing these figures at and how their production quality stands. Are we gonna see a bunch of tearing with the neck and fingers? As well as what their overall production quality will be like across the board. Clothing, sculpt softness, paint quality, downgrades, etc etc.
It is quite amazing though that we've gotten both JND and INART to help push this hobby within the last 2 years alone. Wish the licenses were expanded beyond what we're getting but interesting none the less. An Indy done at this level would be insane and an instant buy. Indy is one of those licenses that's huge in the custom scene like Joker but doesn't get nearly the same amount of love from companies.
Sugotoys?Prob can save a few hundred going with AUS sellers if they carry it.
I also talked to Gundamit few days ago. They asked me about the figure's preorder page. I told them it would go live on 15th. Hope they carry it as well.Prob can save a few hundred going with AUS sellers if they carry it.
They would have to think of their own methods of doing so though seeing as JND seem to have patents (or at least pending patents) on the tech they're using.I only hope InArt doesn't try imitating this silicone technique, Gandalf proved it's not necessary at all, I don't think silicone would make that look better in any way. Since they're trying to expand and keep prices down I guess I probably don't have to worry, but if this thing sells out immediately there's no doubt someone will try to imitate.
Yea, would be sort of crazy to have an almost full encapsulated silicone Wonder Woman. I'd imagine the hand swap outs would be covered at the forearm by her armor to maintain the illusion of seamlessness.I'll admit that for female characters silicone would really help since most of those have the neck gap, so I hope JND will do that eventually.
There is slightly more precedent, though. Kojun did a custom Vincent Hannah from Heat a few years back that utilized the same process (right down to the squishy neck and articulated fingers). Frankly, I’d be curious to see how it aged(materials wise)/if they’ll highlight it at all during the inevitable release/announcement video for Joker.The difference though is those larger scales don’t move.
This is their first foray into dolls/action figures with moving components. There is good reason to be skeptical since we’ve never seen something like this perfected in this scale.
People shill the hell out of Hot Toys claiming quality and they use some of the cheapest materials possible. It’s just how it is. Most toy companies dabble in “gotcha” products while proclaiming to push limitations and boundaries with their premium products.
That figure was shown in the initial teaser so apparently it's held up pretty well over the years. Unless he made a whole new one just for those few secondsThere is slightly more precedent, though. Kojun did a custom Vincent Hannah from Heat a few years back that utilized the same process (right down to the squishy neck and articulated fingers). Frankly, I’d be curious to see how it aged(materials wise)/if they’ll highlight it at all during the inevitable release/announcement video for Joker.
That was also a $7000 custom he was selling. The big wary comes from them mass producing this at a much bigger scale. There will no doubt be some sort of downgrade in the process. Whether that leads to the material being more prone to tearing or maybe the sharpness in the detail is lost. Who knows. Definitely something to be caution about with it being the first of it's kind. Best case scenario is of course, they hit it out of the park right away but you don't really see that happening with any company.There is slightly more precedent, though. Kojun did a custom Vincent Hannah from Heat a few years back that utilized the same process (right down to the squishy neck and articulated fingers). Frankly, I’d be curious to see how it aged(materials wise)/if they’ll highlight it at all during the inevitable release/announcement video for Joker.
(sorry I deleted my original post lol) I didn't think about the patents issue, that combined with the price might mean JND will be the only one doing this for many years to come. And Wonder Woman made that way would be awesome! I know it'll be tough getting past the price, but it'll be amazing to see some of these female characters finally getting proper proportions and no neck gaps.They would have to think of their own methods of doing so though seeing as JND seem to have patents (or at least pending patents) on the tech they're using.
Yea, would be sort of crazy to have an almost full encapsulated silicone Wonder Woman. I'd imagine the hand swap outs would be covered at the forearm by her armor to maintain the illusion of seamlessness.
IP doesn't seem to be taken too seriously in that part of the world, so it's very much the wild west there. You can't get legal relief on a pending patent.They would have to think of their own methods of doing so though seeing as JND seem to have patents (or at least pending patents) on the tech they're using.
I just want to see what they have to offer. All due respect, but I couldn’t care less about the shmancy technical stuff: silicon, plastic, and everything in between; a Joker is a Joker is a Joker. Is the functionality cool? Absolutely. Do Daniel and Kojun deserve to sit there and smell their silicon farts for that and that alone? Nah. I’m looking at that bendy neck and thinking “now HIM you could hang upside down” and my brain is working overtime and I’m actually getting excited again. “Maybe this time, someone actually does a smiling head.”$2000 is a large pill to swallow. For me a silicon head and gloves is enough for me. A single pack purple coat joker $700 would be a perfect option for many. I plan to get one joker and maybe the inart bale all together.
I understand where you’re coming from but if patents really didn’t mean anything to them then there would be no reason to even go through the trouble of applying for one.IP doesn't seem to be taken too seriously in that part of the world, so it's very much the wild west there. You can't get legal relief on a pending patent.
Plus, patent pending just means you've applied for a patent. There's still an examination that needs to be performed and all of the back and forth that goes with the claims disputes. That can take years and whittle away at the claims, which also dilutes what you're protecting. At the end of the day, the only way the patent is actionable is if it is actually granted, and someone actually infringes on a granted claim.
It also depends upon which country the application was filed in. I don't know if it's still the case, but several years ago pending US patent applications were available to the public, so anyone could see them. Back then, it was also advised that US inventors also file for protection in that part of the world as a small measure of possible enforcement. No guarantees.
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