maybe it will be somewhere between their John Wick $2,299 and their Geralt $2,599
JND Studios: Aragorn 1/3 Statue
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GaryPool
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Maybe, but this is what I mean with their pricing. Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm not really that involved with Geralt, but at least, when a statue like Superman, or Geralt etc. which is primarily resin, costs more money than a statue which has multiple layer of textiles and assimilation such as Joker, Arthur Fleck, Wick, Harley Quinn etc. how does that work out precisely? Not to mention the leap in costs from their Fleck-WW84 pricing and them jumping up hugely with more "basic" approaches.
I think they've only tackled this questioning with the answer of the economy being more expensive. Yet, most of their production comes from in-house, and has continued to do so more over the years also, which I suppose incurs more fees also, but should also cheapen it as well.
Suffice to say, I think they're charging more because they can. The prime example of this is Superman, how on Earth was he costing more than TDK Batman which came free with a whole head sculpt.
I assume there is no fixed "pricing model" for JND products, I think they decide on the pricing for each piece in isolation - in the same way they decide on Edition Size.
I imagine it's a case of they charge whatever they feel the market will bear - for each figure individually.
I'm at a point now, where JND figures just don't make any sense to me - maybe I was there a few purchases back, but was in too deep to admit it to myself. The fact remains (IMHO) that these are mass produced items, they're not special, they're not art, they're not even particularly interesting - when all is said and done.
JND, like many others, just make pop culture disposable products. I say disposable, because of the transient nature of the inspiration behind each figure concept. Movies, Video Games, Comics - all these things have a shelf life - and these high priced statues will only be relevant as long as those inspirations continue to be relevant.
I'm not talking about investment by the way, I mean relevance to the people collecting these pieces. Sure, you have some real die-hard fans - who "must have" this or that character from their favourite movie or franchise - but I think most collectors are fickle beings, and eventually, what was a "must have" today, quickly becomes a space burden, or a means to liquidate an asset for the next big shiney thing to drop onto the scene.
Right now I have Batman Returns Catwoman, Harley Quinn Platinum, and Madam Yeong on pre-order....and I'm going to cancel all of them - because I've realised that they are - essentially mass produced "trash" - that will not hold my attention, and are not worthy of a slot in my collection. I also see nothing coming out from any brand that I feel would be a worthy addition. On top of that, I'm also planning to sell pretty much my whole collection - it's time to move on, time for something meaningful - subjectively speaking of course.
I imagine it's a case of they charge whatever they feel the market will bear - for each figure individually.
I'm at a point now, where JND figures just don't make any sense to me - maybe I was there a few purchases back, but was in too deep to admit it to myself. The fact remains (IMHO) that these are mass produced items, they're not special, they're not art, they're not even particularly interesting - when all is said and done.
JND, like many others, just make pop culture disposable products. I say disposable, because of the transient nature of the inspiration behind each figure concept. Movies, Video Games, Comics - all these things have a shelf life - and these high priced statues will only be relevant as long as those inspirations continue to be relevant.
I'm not talking about investment by the way, I mean relevance to the people collecting these pieces. Sure, you have some real die-hard fans - who "must have" this or that character from their favourite movie or franchise - but I think most collectors are fickle beings, and eventually, what was a "must have" today, quickly becomes a space burden, or a means to liquidate an asset for the next big shiney thing to drop onto the scene.
Right now I have Batman Returns Catwoman, Harley Quinn Platinum, and Madam Yeong on pre-order....and I'm going to cancel all of them - because I've realised that they are - essentially mass produced "trash" - that will not hold my attention, and are not worthy of a slot in my collection. I also see nothing coming out from any brand that I feel would be a worthy addition. On top of that, I'm also planning to sell pretty much my whole collection - it's time to move on, time for something meaningful - subjectively speaking of course.
I think they're pretty much charging what they want too, I'm not sure materials wise if resin is cheaper than fabric needing tailoring or not but with Geralt I think he has real fabric but hard to tell. His also has a big monster severed head on the base though so you'd think that would make his cost more than Aragorn.
Also not sure how much the license fee percentage can vary and needs to be factored into the retail price
GaryPool
Super Freak
Congratulations on the self-realisation.
I diagree with a lot of your points, but your comment is a very self-reflective post. I've had a similar thought with my collection of premium steelbooks and have decided to stop collecting them and to sell the collection also.
It's natural, as through life your thoughts and feelings on something you otherwise felt strongly towards will change. I disagree with your thoughts behind the statues themselves but I genuinely think if that's how you feel that's an incredible realisation, and you should 100% put that time and money into something you consider more worthwhile. I have to admit, with collecting in general, I do question my collecting based on comic book related stuff when in reality I don't value it nowhere near as much as other areas. After Affleck Batman, unless they do a Phoenix Joker, I will not be collecting any other comic book related character.
LotR really is the only other thing I'd be interested in due to the significance of the films in my childhood and my love for them still. But something like Oldboy has a better weight for me because I genuinely still love that film.
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I'm sorry but this is as off (in different ways) as the Inart imho.
GaryPool
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I think the tunic perhaps is leather, but wasn't quite sure. Some of the straps look like they aren't, whereas this Aragorn looks like they could be leather, but definitely a textile of some sort.
With resin, I'm assuming it is higher quality, but aside from the costs of 3D printers I imagine it is cheaper to pay an artist to model the sculpts and then oversee the printing. With textiles it's the costs of variable factors along with the textile artist creating and then a team of artists cutting, so logically I'd always assume textiles to be the more expensive avenue. Even if he comes with a 3D printed monster head, I'd imagine that is lower cost compared to textiles and crafting, but could be wrong.
But I do agree, which clearly is the case, they have no real price structure outside of what they feel for the most part (in saying that obviously costs will affect it, perhaps ll my assumptions are wrong and 3D printing from one artists' sculpt is the more expensive way, perhaps spray painting multiple layers by a team of artists is more expensive labour wise than a team of sewers dyeing and cutting).
Either way looking at their pricing throughout their catalogue has no rhyme or reason, and it's infuriating.
I think we can just expect to see it continue this gradual increase till they maybe hit a level where even the biggest JND fans can't justify the price but with how fast a lot of their pieces sell out, at least from their own site, they don't really have a motive to change. I am surprised their Geralt is still available direct though
I know you've lost interest in this piece, but just wanted to say that I stand corrected on my previous statement about JND not making the arms removable. In their recent unboxing for Indiana Jones shows that the arms detach from the main body while still being inside the shirt to remove the jacket in order to put his satchel/bag on; so, they could very well do the same for this in order to get his ranger gear on
Chopper Face
Super Freak
Hmm, well if they can sort his face out and provide Boromir’s gauntlets, I may find my interests renewed.
Teaser #1
Cropped this from a post on FB of a very poor/low-res screen cap of standard James Park’s “Let’s JNDize” pointing pose he does at the end of the reveal videos.
Teaser #2
PO is this Friday!
ES limited to 299
Price is $2499
Some official photos and note from James Park below.
It’s a bad translation, but it sounds like they had Aragorn’s design and concept approved months ago and questioned the licensor (WB?) why they allowed Queen to do the same character in pretty much the same pose to which the answer was a difference between global and regional (China) license. I guess JND were technically first to get approval from WB but are second to reveal the proto, and dislike that they appear to be copying QS b/c of that. So, sounds like Queen Studios’ statue will be region locked much like the 1/6 figures and potentially a little more difficult to get as not as many other stores stock stock the larger scale QS pieces as they do the 1/6 InArt stuff.
Second pic looks almost 100% Viggo to me, which makes me think this is another that will be a knock out in hand vs JND’s official pics
Message from James:
The end of the year is not always easy.
It is also very difficult to proceed with the PO by keeping the set schedule.
In particular, there are times when one or two projects are difficult every year.
This year, Aragon was difficult in many ways lol When I asked the licensor why the concept we had already confirmed months ago had to overlap the same now.
Licensor's answer is due to the difference between Worldwide and China. Should I laugh or cry this lol
Anyway, I don't like it when we're seen in the form of interterence or copy.
I want to finish this project quickly.
Actually, there's nothing similar from head to toe, pose, bass, cape, or costume.
I hope you take a closer look~ I'll cut it off quickly to 299es / 2499USD ^^
Aragon's knife is die-cast metal... It'll be okay, right? ^^
LOL Then please look forward to tomorrow's video a lot~ It's so cool ^^
- James
ES limited to 299
Price is $2499
Some official photos and note from James Park below.
It’s a bad translation, but it sounds like they had Aragorn’s design and concept approved months ago and questioned the licensor (WB?) why they allowed Queen to do the same character in pretty much the same pose to which the answer was a difference between global and regional (China) license. I guess JND were technically first to get approval from WB but are second to reveal the proto, and dislike that they appear to be copying QS b/c of that. So, sounds like Queen Studios’ statue will be region locked much like the 1/6 figures and potentially a little more difficult to get as not as many other stores stock stock the larger scale QS pieces as they do the 1/6 InArt stuff.
Second pic looks almost 100% Viggo to me, which makes me think this is another that will be a knock out in hand vs JND’s official pics
Message from James:
The end of the year is not always easy.
It is also very difficult to proceed with the PO by keeping the set schedule.
In particular, there are times when one or two projects are difficult every year.
This year, Aragon was difficult in many ways lol When I asked the licensor why the concept we had already confirmed months ago had to overlap the same now.
Licensor's answer is due to the difference between Worldwide and China. Should I laugh or cry this lol
Anyway, I don't like it when we're seen in the form of interterence or copy.
I want to finish this project quickly.
Actually, there's nothing similar from head to toe, pose, bass, cape, or costume.
I hope you take a closer look~ I'll cut it off quickly to 299es / 2499USD ^^
Aragon's knife is die-cast metal... It'll be okay, right? ^^
LOL Then please look forward to tomorrow's video a lot~ It's so cool ^^
- James
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OzzyAndyHam
Freaked Out
Certainly conflicted between JND and Queen, I'm likely going to have to put an NRD for both and see which turns out better, skipping payment plans unfortunately. At this stage Queen looks better in likeness, but uncertain they can maintain that level of quality in production. JND lacks a little in likeness, and some material choices are a bit odd, but i know we can be guaranteed production will look exactly as displayed here. Decisions..
This sculpt looks so bad that I almost don’t even know what to say. It is truly the JND way, for every one sculpt that is next level amazing they make another 3-4 that are just downright laughably bad.
Forget Viggo, this Aragorn looks like he’s from any one of those “Lord of the Rings in Panavision” AI YouTube videos that are out there.
If their upcoming Jack Sparrow looks this bad I will be seriously pissed.
Forget Viggo, this Aragorn looks like he’s from any one of those “Lord of the Rings in Panavision” AI YouTube videos that are out there.
If their upcoming Jack Sparrow looks this bad I will be seriously pissed.
Buying this is actually insane when the Queen Studios version is infinitely better. This is Viggo's stunt double at best.
Some hi-res pics
JND's coat also appears to be more accurate than Queen's as far as material choice goes, it just really needs longer coat sleeve. Queen seem to have used the same material they used for their 1/6 which is nice but not accurate.
The brown jerkin is probably comparable though JND's looks properly weathered which Queen's is missing out on.
Boots are real fabric on Queen's but a little too short, and sculpted on JND's but the right height.
I'm sure we'll have more comparisons to go off on soon enough though.
As far as the base goes. I felt the same until I saw the above close ups I just posted. it's pretty detailed.
No, Queen's costume is more accurate to Two Towers/ Return of the King, where as JND's is more accurate to Fellowship.
JND's coat also appears to be more accurate than Queen's as far as material choice goes, it just really needs longer coat sleeve. Queen seem to have used the same material they used for their 1/6 which is nice but not accurate.
The brown jerkin is probably comparable though JND's looks properly weathered which Queen's is missing out on.
Boots are real fabric on Queen's but a little too short, and sculpted on JND's but the right height.
I'm sure we'll have more comparisons to go off on soon enough though.
As far as the base goes. I felt the same until I saw the above close ups I just posted. it's pretty detailed.
Cool okay based on that then I would say JND is better with everything except for the portrait, but that really shouldn't be the case I don't know why they have issues with so many likenesses but quality wise overall they excel. What they need is Queen's sculptors
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