Jordan Peele’s Us

[BeefEaster]

I don't get what's up with professional movie critics these days. It's like instead of giving their honest personal opinions most of them have a meeting before a popular new movie releases and decide whether they're going to say they liked it or not.

There are some outliers that aren't part of this "clique" obviously and when Alita came out there was one top critic that gave it a great review that came right out in his review and said that he must have missed the memo that he was supposed to hate the movie.

The reason I say this is because Get Out and now Us are getting these glowing reviews raving about how they are genius filmmaking and blah blah but they're not. They're just your average to slightly above average films.

 

[jal76]

I don't get what's up with professional movie critics these days. It's like instead of giving their honest personal opinions most of them have a meeting before a popular new movie releases and decide whether they're going to say they liked it or not.

There are some outliers that aren't part of this "clique" obviously and when Alita came out there was one top critic that gave it a great review that came right out in his review and said that he must have missed the memo that he was supposed to hate the movie.

The reason I say this is because Get Out and now Us are getting these glowing reviews raving about how they are genius filmmaking and blah blah but they're not. They're just your average to slightly above average films.

Could it be that in your opinion those films are average and that may in fact not be the actual opinion of others? I am neither a critic nor have I attended any meetings and I think Get Out and Us are both excellent films...so there goes your theory.

 

[jnmx2000]

I don't get what's up with professional movie critics these days. It's like instead of giving their honest personal opinions most of them have a meeting before a popular new movie releases and decide whether they're going to say they liked it or not.

There are some outliers that aren't part of this "clique" obviously and when Alita came out there was one top critic that gave it a great review that came right out in his review and said that he must have missed the memo that he was supposed to hate the movie.

The reason I say this is because Get Out and now Us are getting these glowing reviews raving about how they are genius filmmaking and blah blah but they're not. They're just your average to slightly above average films.

I'll give you Get Out as I wasn't wild about that movie but US was on a whole different level, easily my favorite horror movie since IT FOLLOWS and this is probably one of the most rewatchable horror films I have seen in a very very long time. I can't wait to see this again.

 

[jal76]

I'll give you Get Out as I wasn't wild about that movie but US was on a whole different level, easily my favorite horror movie since IT FOLLOWS and this is probably one of the most rewatchable horror films I have seen in a very very long time. I can't wait to see this again.

Yep...DEFINITELY this!

 

[bboy]

I wish the movie was a little bit more ambiguous like It Follows, I think that is what stops it from being a true great horror movie. It ends up eating it’s own tail. But I greatly enjoy this movie , going Wednesday for a second viewing.

 

[nearmint]

If you go in expecting pure horror, you'll probably be disappointed. If you like a little political allegory mixed in, you'll appreciate it more.

 

[xipotec]

Horror films are sometimes easy prey for critics, so anyone of then thats slightly more intelligent than the average gets good reviews....

Last two horror films that even rate for me were ;

Heredity
And
A Quiet Place


Sent from the inside of a giant slug in outer space.....

 

[Ehollywood]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAPMW2fu3m0

Loved the opening music from the movie. Kinda reminded me of Ghost in the Shell/Akira

 

[BeefEaster]

Could it be that in your opinion those films are average and that may in fact not be the actual opinion of others? I am neither a critic nor have I attended any meetings and I think Get Out and Us are both excellent films...so there goes your theory.

This isn't really a theory, it's just a personal musing.

I've just noticed that there's been a trend of larger and larger discrepancies between critical consensus and audience consensus for many new popular movies.

For instance Us has a 94% critic score and a 69% audience score and on the opposing end Alita has a 60% critics score and a 94% audience score.

It's like many professional critics are more interested in fitting in than giving their true opinion.

 

[jal76]

This isn't really a theory, it's just a personal musing.

I've just noticed that there's been a trend of larger and larger discrepancies between critical consensus and audience consensus for many new popular movies.

For instance Us has a 94% critic score and a 69% audience score and on the opposing end Alita has a 60% critics score and a 94% audience score.

It's like many professional critics are more interested in fitting in than giving their true opinion.

I think the reason for the disparity between the critic and the audience score is that most critics are somewhat educated in cinema as an art form, potentially have more refined tastes, have been exposed to more films...if I go out as the man on the street and I bring 10 random people in to a movie theater and show them say...Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo and then Michael Bay's Transformers Dark of the Moon and ask them to vote on the better movie...I bet that at least 6 and possibly 10 out of 10 will pick Transformers. I do the same thing with 10 critics, that is an easy 10 out of 10 for the Hitchcock film. While I do not personally take the word of critics at all times...my example above is why I will always consider the critic score and actually completely ignore the audience score. Who cares what Joe Six Pack considers to be art?

 

[bboy]

^ yes, exactly.

 

[BeefEaster]

It just seems to me that critics are losing the ability to differentiate between popcorn flicks and artfully created films and are attempting to score them both on the same scale.

There's plenty of evidence that supports this but there's also plenty to the contrary.

It's just one of those "shower thoughts" type things for me.

 

[jal76]

It just seems to me that critics are losing the ability to differentiate between popcorn flicks and artfully created films and are attempting to score them both on the same scale.

There's plenty of evidence that supports this but there's also plenty to the contrary.

It's just one of those "shower thoughts" type things for me.

That's a good point but I think the line between pop corn and art has recently not been blurred by the critics but by the filmmakers themselves. The critics are just doing their best to navigate these grey areas. I won't debate whether it was deserving or not but the fact is 10 years ago a film like Black Panther...not only a super hero film but one that is essentially the sequel to another super hero movie could never have been nominated for an Academy Award for best picture but here we sit.

 

[BeefEaster]

Speaking of Black Panther, it's a great example of what I was talking about where the critics seemingly got together and decided they were all going to give it great reviews whether it deserved them or not.

I know exactly what the reason for that was though but I won't even go in to that here.

 

[ironwez20]

Just say it. Cause they didn’t want to be seen as racist

 

[JAWS]

Saw it last night.. I love horror. Its my fav genre.

I wanted to like this film.

It was.... Meh.

It didn't offer anything that other films have not done better (Strangers) and I'm sorry but the explanation for everything was laughably bad.

I mean first off... Holy Exposition Batman... Has a horror film ever taken this much time to have a character explain why things are going on... Had this been an M Knight movie and this was the explanation, people would be as forgiving.

And then the main twist... Which was a cheat...

Spoiler

Not a cheat because it was something where you could not guess (I did) but that the characters who were part of the twist could not see it coming until convenient memory loss was not convenient anymore.

The movie played more like an average Twilight Zone Episode. Interesting that Peele is doing the show now.


So far I think both of Peele's films were decent movies but the hype surrounding them is just too over the top... So many better genre films out there. The man has talent and there is a great film in there somewhere. Perhaps he should direct someone else's script.

 

[JAWS]

Just say it. Cause they didn’t want to be seen as racist

I personally don't about the color of who directs / writes / stars in the film. But I do wonder if it does to some of the main stream critics..

Just deliver a good film. Peele has been close twice but not hit the mark for me yet.

Of the two films I thought that Get Out was the better movie overall and more watchable.

 

[JAWS]

I think the reason for the disparity between the critic and the audience score is that most critics are somewhat educated in cinema as an art form, potentially have more refined tastes, have been exposed to more films...if I go out as the man on the street and I bring 10 random people in to a movie theater and show them say...Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo and then Michael Bay's Transformers Dark of the Moon and ask them to vote on the better movie...I bet that at least 6 and possibly 10 out of 10 will pick Transformers. I do the same thing with 10 critics, that is an easy 10 out of 10 for the Hitchcock film. While I do not personally take the word of critics at all times...my example above is why I will always consider the critic score and actually completely ignore the audience score. Who cares what Joe Six Pack considers to be art?

Critics also get a bad case of the "cinema snobs"

 

[JAWS]

I'll give you Get Out as I wasn't wild about that movie but US was on a whole different level, easily my favorite horror movie since IT FOLLOWS and this is probably one of the most rewatchable horror films I have seen in a very very long time. I can't wait to see this again.

Eek... Two films that I thought were highly overrated.

I think part of my issue is I have seen way to many horror film.

I did read a long essay on It Follows and thought I might give it another chance. I have seen it twice and its not that I don't like it... I just thought it had a lot of goofy moments and it was not at all scary. I did like the feeling of dread throughout the film though.

Best Horror for me in the last few years, Hereditary and The Witch.

 

[bboy]

Well I agree with most of what your saying. I was disappointed with Get Out and just thought Us was pretty good. But after a second viewing and forgetting the hype I know Us is highly entertaining and an overall well made movie (good set pieces, great score, just minute to minute intriguing). But I don’t think it touches hereditary/ the witch. In fact I put lesser liked movies higher in my recent horror list (overlord, hell fest).. As a fellow horror fan I don’t see why you would find this movie so negative when it at least checks off a bunch of boxes that maybe 50% of horror movies don’t these days. Not to mention the balls he has for making such a goofy concept into a movie. This movie is nothing but a positive thing for the horror genre. If 90% of ccritics on rotten tomatoes found this movie to be slightly above average I would agree with them. I certainly don’t find it to be a masterpiece but damn it is way better then La Lorena will be, better than the awful conjuring spin offs, and much better than the recent Prodigy. And just as a plus it’s got a black cast and director.