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piccolodaimaoh said:
I thought I was a noble steed. Who loves ya, baby?

Oh, and in reguards to the whole discussion over Namor, Robodad is right. Namor has only ever sided with villains out of necessity, not by choice. Namor's personality really doesn't add itself to the whole "hero" theme. His responsibility is to his people and his kingdom and Namor will do whatever he can to protect them.
Sometimes it's hard to be the king.

YOU DO!!! YOU DO!!!

*jumps up for joy*

Your avatar reminds me I need to pick up season 2 of Dragon Ball Z.
 
Eli26 said:
YOU DO!!! YOU DO!!!

*jumps up for joy*

Your avatar reminds me I need to pick up season 2 of Dragon Ball Z.


Go for it, my friend. Season 2 is supposed to go up to the Ginyu Force, some of the best fights on the planet Namek.

I love the Dragonball Universe and hopefully Akira Toriyama will get back to writing new stuff.
 
I still say Frieza owns all! One of my all-time favorite villians. Too bad Trunks dispenses of him with ease when he becomes a cyborg. That's the best Dragon Ball character design right there. That or Perfect Cell.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself. I too have an issue with how easily Cyborg Frieza was killed as well as the super-cool looking King Cold who is supposed to be one of the strongest fighters in the universe.

The top villains are Frieza, Cell, Majin Buu and, of course, Piccolo Daimaoh.
 
piccolodaimaoh said:
Doom never shout out one-liners, are you serious? Now I admit that the original Dr. Doom, the one that Stan Lee and Jack Kirby created, is the one I like the best and he is WAY over the top.
Yes, original Doom yelled one-liners and I have the comics to prove it, but a lot of people seem to forget the source material.
Doom was perfect, plan and simple. But hey, since we have such Fantastic Four specialists who have read all of the material since the beginning then maybe they could write a better film then say Stan Lee.

I look at this film and see a tight, concise and very entertaining movie. But hey, you can't please everyone.

You know what would please me, if Doom sank to Atlantis and convinced Namor to attack the Fantastic Four. Lest we forget it happened in the comics, since everyone here read them.
I don't understand what you were trying to get at, since what you said is all over the place, but I don't claim to be an expert on the FF, cos I don't care about them. I DO know about Doom and the Surfer.

Bottom line is, Doom is potrayed terribly. He doesn't even ever refer to himself as Doom for crying outloud. If he would've atleast referred to himself as Doom and carried himself with a larger than life ego, I could've forgiven the terrible one-liners he has in both movies. But there's not a single shred of what makes Doom such a great character in the movies. None.
 
Spliff said:
I don't understand what you were trying to get at, since what you said is all over the place, but I don't claim to be an expert on the FF, cos I don't care about them. I DO know about Doom and the Surfer.

Bottom line is, Doom is potrayed terribly. He doesn't even ever refer to himself as Doom for crying outloud. If he would've atleast referred to himself as Doom and carried himself with a larger than life ego, I could've forgiven the terrible one-liners he has in both movies. But there's not a single shred of what makes Doom such a great character in the movies. None.


If you don't feel it, you don't feel it.
I mean, I felt it but if the movie didn't do it for you then I totally understand not liking FF 2.
I think the only one that called him "Doom" was Andre Brauer, the rest of the FF just called him Victor. I thought that was effective for the story considering it refers back to the time when they were collegues and implies that it isn't just a super-hero vs a super-villain but instead something deeper.

But, then again, I may be looking too deep into a movie that is intended to just be popcorn-fun.
 
piccolodaimaoh said:
If you don't feel it, you don't feel it.
I mean, I felt it but if the movie didn't do it for you then I totally understand not liking FF 2.
I think the only one that called him "Doom" was Andre Brauer, the rest of the FF just called him Victor. I thought that was effective for the story considering it refers back to the time when they were collegues and implies that it isn't just a super-hero vs a super-villain but instead something deeper.

But, then again, I may be looking too deep into a movie that is intended to just be popcorn-fun.
Uh, I DID like the movie...I just don't like how they continue to ass-rape Doom's character in the flicks.
 
Spliff said:
Uh, I DID like the movie...I just don't like how they continue to ass-rape Doom's character in the flicks.

Hey, here's to them getting it right on Fantastic Four: Atlantis Strikes

Would you see FF 2 again?
 
JABBATHERIDGE said:
If there's a third film does anyone else think it might involve an alliance between Dr Doom and Namor The Submariner.

Doom ended up getting flung into the ocean and at the end of the film Reed and Sue had to abandon their wedding because there was a report Venice was sinking into the Adriatic, maybe the Submariner is somehow responsible for that.

It would be a cool direction to take the franchise, you'd have a fresh love triangle between Namor, Sue and Reed. Doom and Namor (before he turned into a hero) would make a pretty powerful villain team and the special effects to create Atlantis would look cool.


Sounds like goood watching (if they make it). But good idea, Jabba.
 
Well I took the kids to see it yesterday and well...................I have to say I was surprised. I actually really enjoyed it, I don't know if its because I went in expecting the worse but we really enjoyed it. I actually think this movie was better than SM3. Sue did look like a Vivid girl! ahahhahaha
But I liked it, it also made me want to pick up reading the FF again.
I give it a 8/10.


Sue and Reed didn't abandon their wedding they just sped it up. So they are married now....
 
I like the idea of Namor in a FF movie, unfortunately I think Universal has the rights to Namor - so it's not likely.
 
Darklord Dave said:
I like the idea of Namor in a FF movie, unfortunately I think Universal has the rights to Namor - so it's not likely.


It'd be cool, but I know it be less than expected.

I wish they'd do an original Human Torch/Namor movie, kinda give it a period piece feel too like Rocketeer.
 
Now that I think about it, I'm not so sure Namor would be a good direction to take the film's franchise in after all because there'd be too many parallels to the Silver Surfer's story in FF2.

You've got a bad guy who'd eventually turn into a good guy at the end and who'd also be attracted to Sue Storm. Kinda like the Surfer in FF2.

Ok, my idea sucks!

Blastarr anyone?:D

Puppet Master?

Impossible Man?
 
JABBATHERIDGE said:
Now that I think about it, I'm not so sure Namor would be a good direction to take the film's franchise in after all because there'd be too many parallels to the Silver Surfer's story in FF2.

You've got a bad guy who'd eventually turn into a good guy at the end and who'd also be attracted to Sue Storm. Kinda like the Surfer in FF2.

Ok, my idea sucks!

Blastarr anyone?:D

Puppet Master?

Impossible Man?
How about the Super-Skrull? That would be cool!!!


oh wait..
:monkey2
 
I think Namor in the next movie is a great idea.

Hey, how about:

Fantastic Four: Atlantis Strikes

OR

Fantastic Four: Revenge of the Sub-Mariner

OR

Fantastic Four: A New Undersea Menace

Last but not least

Fantastic Four: Deadly Alliance (Only if Doom and Namor team up which wouldn't be bad)
 
piccolodaimaoh said:
I think Namor in the next movie is a great idea.

Hey, how about:

Fantastic Four: Atlantis Strikes

OR

Fantastic Four: Revenge of the Sub-Mariner

OR

Fantastic Four: A New Undersea Menace

Last but not least

Fantastic Four: Deadly Alliance (Only if Doom and Namor team up which wouldn't be bad)

You know what the Silver Surfer reminds me of? Really, you must know! The Tin Man from the 1930's adaptation of Wizard of Oz. I wonder if they're related? Hmmm... I wonder.
 
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