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I don't mind that personally.
And that's where we'll always disagree. 🍻
There's like 65 survivors (including Inquisitors), out of over 10,000 (0.65%), most of which died later.

That's not a lot. Order 66 fractured the Jedi and eliminated most of them.
I think it's still problematic when you view the OT, but awkward retcons have been a big part of Star Wars from the very beginning. Luke made out with his sister. I knew he was a hick but come on!
 
I know, I mean I never thought Filoni was creepy. He’s just an awkward nerd. George on the other hand….
I wouldn’t even call him awkward. Go and watch an interview with him. He’s a passionate nerd sure but he knows the heck what he’s talking about and seems a lot more normal than most of us.

I think people see the hat and automatically go what a weirdo. Who wears a hat indoors?
 
I don't care one way or the other, so this news gets a...

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I'm just going by what Spielberg himself has said. So I guess he's "that guy."


There is literally nothing in that video that mentions her getting coffee. But yes, when she was hired as a secretary, she apparently was vocal with her opinions. Instead of firing her as his secretary, she became his producer, so I don't think he's that guy.
 
That's what George said.



L — I like it if they already had a relationship at one point. Because then you don't have to build it.

G — I was thinking that this old guy could have been his mentor. He could have known this little girl when she was just a kid. Had an affair with her when she was eleven.

L — And he was forty-two.

G — He hasn't seen her in twelve years. Now she's twenty-two. It's a real strange relationship.

S — She had better be older than twenty-two.

G — He's thirty-five, and he knew her ten years ago when he was twenty-five and she was only twelve.

G — It would be amusing to make her slightly young at the time.

S — And promiscuous. She came onto him.

G — Fifteen is right on the edge. I know it's an outrageous idea, but it is interesting. Once she's sixteen or seventeen it's not interesting anymore. But if she was fifteen and he was twenty-five and they actually had an affair the last time they met. And she was madly in love with him and he...


G = George Lucas

S = Steven Spielberg

L = Lawrence Kasdan

Luckily this wasn't in the final film!
 
As I said, his expansion of the lore surrounding the Force, Jedi and Sith is overly complex and IMO gets ridiculous. He leans very hard into the mystical aspects, doubles down and throws in Hyperspace Whales for Jedi to talk to. He also created many unaccounted for Jedi post Order 66.

Now I get it, some fans like or even love what he did, and think it's cool. I think he went too far and turned Star Wars into something closer to Harry Potter but if you like it, I won't try to change your mind. He didn't wreck it single-handedly but IMO he's contributed to its decline.

I find all of the above uneven at best, unwatchable at worst, although there are some cool elements, episodes and storylines. I did say he's done *some* good work.

LOL ... hyperbole and giving him a hard time about Ahsoka. I'm half-joking. 🤨
I always felt that he brought more Comic and Book EU elements into Main Star Wars. Movies has always been straight5 forward, comics things get kind of weird, and books get weirdest. Each form of media has it's own flavor, and Filoni basically mixed them up. Since he was obviously a fan of the other media forms of Star Wars.
 
Luckily this wasn't in the final film!

He would've gotten away with it, if it weren't for those meddling kids, Spielberg and Kasdan.

It would've been the death of the franchise before it'd even begun.

There's still traces of it in the novelization that came out before the film.

A grudge was a grudge-and if a colleague had an affair with your daughter, your child, then the grudge would be long and hard. Indy sighed. A weakness, he thought. Why couldn't you have been strong back then? Why did you have to get so carried away? So involved with a kid? But then, she hadn't seemed like a kid, more a child-woman, something in her eyes and her look suggesting more than a girl going through adolescence.

"I'm sorry," he said.

"Big deal."

"I'm really sorry."

"I thought I was in love with you," she said.

"And look what you did with that sacred piece of knowledge."

"I didn't mean to hurt you."

"I was a child!"

"Look, I did what I did. I'm not happy about it, I can't explain it. And I don't expect you to be happy about it, either."

"It was wrong, Indiana Jones. And you knew it was wrong."



I'm surprised Lucas' words during the Raiders Story Conference never really came back to bite him when others starting falling foul of things they said or wrote long ago.
 
There’s been some good stuff that happened under KK’s leadership. Rogue One, Rebels, Mando seasons 1 & 2, the Galaxy’s Edge parks. But her tenure will be firmly rooted as being poorly managed overall because of how badly they fumbled their treatment of the legacy characters and actors that made Star Wars (and Indiana Jones) the success that it even was in the first place when Disney bought it. Killing the OT characters off one by one, AND doing so without even having the main trio all back on screen together at once is unforgivable, from my perspective. The multitude of announced and then canceled projects also speaks volumes to her inability to manage things well (and that’s not even mentioning all the films that got finished but chaotically switched directors somewhere during production).

Complain about Filoni all you want but at least he treats the legacy characters and actors with respect* like how they brought back and used Hayden during the Ahsoka show. In contrast, it felt like the people in charge of the Kenobi show were barely even interested in having him be the actual main character.

*except for Boba Fett for some reason 😂
 
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Killing the OT characters off one by one, AND doing so without even having the main trio all back on screen together at once is unforgivable, from my perspective.
I will never understand the obsession with this. I also wish the ST was a better story, but why was it so important to have a scene specifically with the trio together? Every time legacy franchises pull a forced reunion like that it gets very cringe.
 
I will never understand the obsession with this. I also wish the ST was a better story, but why was it so important to have a scene specifically with the trio together? Every time legacy franchises pull a forced reunion like that it gets very cringe.
there was no respect for these characters.
they didn't respect the legacy. it was awful. like was handled awful. flying leia was awful.

uniting them might be cringe, but the way they did it was so awful. and where's finn or poe now? where are they?
the entire point of trashing the original characters was to give focus to the new characters, and they even destroyed that. they destroyed finn. made mockery of him.
poe and finn, characters no one remembers or cares about.
 
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