Kaustic Plastik 2018 PREVIEW! The Romans are back!!

[Asta]

From the same volume, a reconstruction from a 2nd Century Portonaccio tomb:

 

[screamingmetal]

This is the best message today! ��
Mate can you kindly tell me the source of your assumptions?
Our 'crappy' helmet are the only one that have the correct size.
The Roman helmet was big enough to be dressed with an under helm made in leather, that defend the head from the hits.
You know, metal in direct contact of your skin it's not the best idea ever if you are in a
Real fight ������������
I suggest you , next time before trolling me so much, go in some museum and give a look to the size of an actual Roman helmet ��

The source of my knowledge is from holding your product in hand and judging it for myself before returning it for a refund.
If the helmets are meant to be worn with a leather under helm, where's this leather under helm with your products then???? If that's what they wore then they should also come with it. The helmets on your figures are far too loose fitting, and because they're die-cast, they're made too thick which overall results in them looking oversized.
This:

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Clearly looks nothing like this:

You can see that your prototype model is lacking details that are present on the original helmet. It's not only inaccurate but badly reproduces the original real thing at scale. Missing are the fine recessed lines around the eye holes and lips, not to mention the missing headband and it's details. This is also the prototype, I've seen and held some of your production die-cast helmets in person and they're clearly oversized and under detailed and even worse quality after production. The details that are there are soft because your insistent use of die-cast metal. Die-cast is just incapable of reproducing fine details that plastic can. Plastic can also be thinner and lighter, there's no good valid reason for your helmets to be made in die-cast metal or a metal reproduction method that would be more accurate (CNC milling) but far too costly. Add to that most of the hinges on your helmets are also oversized compared to the originals.

Here's an example of how oversized and poorly detailed your die-cast helmets are, your version of the Gladiator movie helmet:

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The real thing in the movie:


As you can see, your version is oversized and suffers from soft details. You want further proof that your Gladiator movie helmet and overall approach to reproducing all the helmets you make is wrong? Here's the Pangaea version, it's more in scale and far more accurate and sharply detailed because it's made in plastic:

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Given the choice, I'd much rather spend my money on the better looking plastic helmet, the one that looks most like the movie.

Sorry that my comments hurt your feelings. Making 1:6 figures accurate is not easy, even the big guns like Hot Toys and Sideshow get it wrong. I'm frustrated that there's so few manufacturers making 1:6 scale ancient military figures that I'm just disappointed by time and again. Your company is not the only one that has disappointed me, the Greeks made by ACI have also disappointed me. Their helmets are plastic but still grossly oversized due to a failure to engineer a head that can work inside a close fitting in scale helmet, not to mention their crappy Linothorax that was made from a thin flimsy piece of printed faux leather, only Dragon so far has made a Linothorax that looked the way it should.

 

[sixxshooter]

I personally appreciate Kaustic Plastic for posting on this forum . I don’t think there’s anything wrong with some constructive criticism . I really love there Roman figures whether there 100% accurate or not . I don’t see any other company’s making Roman figures so this is a real pleasure to collect these . THANK YOU AGAIN KP!

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Constructive criticism is always good as long as it's constructive and respectful.

If you don't like what you see then say your piece and move on to something that does suit your fancy.

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[Asta]

There's nothing like a Roman announcement to inspire me to delve into my library, and pay attention once more to my little army.

They were in Detolfs, but with KP's two new auxilia figures ordered they needed room for expansion. So I moved them back to their original wider display cases.

The gladiators are still confined to their Detolfs.

Spoiler

Somebody mentioned hope for a horse for the cavlaryman, maybe on the other forum. Now that would be something.

 

[djamesi]

I don't post to this forum very often (heck-hardly ever), but I do feel compelled to put in my 2 cents here.

I just want to point out that no one has done more to produce quality, historically accurate Roman figures in 1/6 than Fabio. NO ONE. That's not my opinion or conjecture-that's a fact, plain and simple. For those of us interested in this era, we owe alot to Fabio and KP.

I'm also a proud owner of one of KP's Roman figures (Macrinus) and I can attest to the quality, accuracy and attention to detail that Fabio takes in producing these figures. He takes alot of pride in his work-and it shows. They're museum quality.

 

[Asta]

ETA for these is July for Asia and USA, September for Europe.

 

[sixxshooter]

Thanks for the update ! I noticed this on Facebook as well . Really looking forward to picking up a couple of these figures .

 

[Asta]

Apparently these will be in stock in Hong Kong next week.

 

[abake]

I think I've got enough romans for now, but it's nice to know KP is still bringing these out!

 

[badvoc]

Yeah, I agree. We've had the Celts, now I think something of a different flavour is required. Instead of 4 Romans, perhaps give us a German, Persian, Macedonian, A Carthaginian Heavy Spanish Infantry, Thracian, and I think too that the ACI Classical Hoplite can be improved upon. Diversity would be awesome.

 

[sixxshooter]

I disagree . We need more Roman troops for fans who missed the first versions . Keep em coming KP !!

 

[Darth Fail]

I've been looking to branch out a bit from Star Wars 1/6 scale figures. I was surprised how much fantasy made it into the various Middle Ages figures which I assumed would be my initial dip into historical figures. It's nice to know there is serious research going on in the historical figure genre. I'll be picking up all four and will watching eBay for earlier KP releases.

 

[abake]

KP's new batch of figures looks fantastic, but alas, I've no room for more Romans in my shelves.
There's also a new company doing a more "classical" looking legionary, I think Nanjin posted a link to it on facebook.

 

[sixxshooter]

Just ordered 1 of these guys from BBTS who got these in stock this week . I’ll post pictures as soon as he arrives.

 

[gin007]

I bought one of each of these, and I'm surprised there hasn't been more buzz on here about them. They are, as someone stated above, museum quality. The helms are incredible, and every one looks brilliant on the shelf. I'm still trying to collect the helms they released a few years ago. These Romans are the reason I started in this hobby, and I thank Fabio and KP for their fantastic dedication to these guys. Obviously their Tiberius Claudius Maximus inspired the recent HY Toys infantry with marching pack soldier release which appears to have sold very well, and is a relief for those of us that missed the boat on Tiberius.

I bought the much vaunted ACI Roman General after buying some KP stuff, and i was so disappointed with the in hand plastic pieces (anyone want to buy an ACI Roman General?)

I really have little to complain about with KP, but there are a few things that could use some tweaking. Their metal work is out of the world, but leather has been somewhat problematic for them. The lorica leather on the new legionary feels / looks like pleather to me and does not look as good in hand, and that's a shame because real, quality leather would look better and stand up better over time. Their older Roman leather belts have disintegrated (the leather not the metal pieces) over time due to inferior quality material. But, on the other hand, look at those shoes. Daaaaamn. Incredible detail. Other KP components are solid and frankly, beautiful. ((Eg I love the marble nameplates on the exclusives that came out before this round.))

The headsculpts are reused on multiple figures which makes the buy ability of multiple figures problematic. While I don't think they have to do commercial tie-ins, the Lucius (HBO:Rome) head cast on the HY Toys soldier made that an absolute must buy for me. Where KP does attempt commercial tie ins, the likenesses arent quite close enough or are a bit odd (eg I'm not the target demo for footballer heads on my KP bodies and the Marcus Nonius Macrinus doesnt really look like Charles Dance to me -- I wouldn't have minded if it was a non celebrity except that it is listed on official retailer sites as a Charles Dance hs).

The past helms released by KP have a artificial bristle hair which detracts from the very high quality of the helm. The new auxiliary helm doesn't have this problem because it hangs down naturally, but I haven't unboxed my centurion yet to see if he has the same faux bristle hair as the former helms. Frankly, I'll probably pull that faux red bristle out on my older helms and replace it with real mohair to look more realistic.

I do wish I could get a list of all the helms they have released with/without figures as honestly I could collect just those and still be super happy.

Also, early KP bodies were flimsier and I'm glad they have made their bodies better over time, but the weight of the metal / accessories does play a role in posing some of these figures, and now that I've had a few non KP bodies, I realize these bodies are limited in some ways and I think this is due to the fact KP has to take into account the weight of the accessories.

But in the end, the Romans even with their flaws are the prize of my collection. I could display the helms and breast plate armor without bodies, and they are maybe even more incredible because you can focus on the details. Just so happy with KP's products, minor warts and all. Can't wait to actually have the time to make these properly presentable for display and upload some photos.

Thanks you Fabio & KP team for all that you do for historical collectors interested in the Roman era.

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[abake]

Yeah well, KP's Romans are more for a niche market, I think.

I own a couple of their figures, and I agree with your assessments. I'm surprised that they would go back to pleather with the Lorica though... maybe real leather was too expensive for such a large piece?

 

[gin007]

Yeah, now that I've removed some of the subarmalis on some of their other releases, I think it is synthetic as well. So it looks like they are going with synthetic leather on any large pieces and real leather only on belts / straps / etc.

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[abake]

Ah well, too bad.


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[agentghost]

how to fix or replace bad/crappy leather piece from early release? any idea?

 

[gin007]

With pleather, most people just remove the top layer, leaving the fabric material underneath. If it is leather and it is cracking, you can try to revitalize it with leather conditioner. The best option is just to replace it with a quality leather.

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