Legacy AVATAR Neytiri Maquette- Pre-order June 9th

[masterside]

I have to give my two cents on this.....

Here it goes....

I have the Neytiri statue and I like it a lot and although I think this maquette is very expensive, I can't say it is overpriced becausue I do not know how much it cost to make it, how much time they spend putting this thing together. Maybe the price is justified according to people who produced it...

I do agree with Howard that we should not bash Legacy or Sideshow because they made this available to us and if we are always complaining about it, they might just go "Screw that!! We are not making maquettes available to collectors anymore"

I will not pay $1600 for that statue not because I don't think it is worth it, but because it is a lot of money and I prefer to get 3 or 4 instead of one.

Remember this though.....People in this forum and many who are complaining about the price would not think twice in paying $1500 for Dr Doom Premium Format, or $1200 for Captain America Exclusive PF, or even $700 for Patient Zero PF.....how about $1800 for Grey Hulk PF????

Unlike the Neytiri Maquette, I don't think they are worth that much, but people here brag about spending big bucks on those pieces.

So, yes, this maquette is very expensive and I will not pay because I'm not a huge fan of the character....but I would pay $2500 to get Cinemaquette Predator.......Why? Because I love that character.

The truth of the matter is that none of us know if Neytiri is "worth" that much because we do not know how much it cost the producer to make it after all it is said and done.....but there is no need to attack Legacy or Sideshow because "you think" it is not worth that much...

Freedom of expression is great and I'm glad we live in a society that you can say whatever we want, but not all of us have good common sense and that shows in some of these threads.....

Off my soap box.....

Cheers

Bear

Totaly agree with you, and I love this character, I ordered this Maquette thursday!

 

[sarakawa]

Here's that side by side pic again of two awesome 1/4 scale, mixed media movie statues. $300 on the right, $1600 on the left. Come on now.

wow, this comparison kinda puts this whole argument into perspective eh? but hey, if you love avatar, you gotta do it right? though i have to say i love marvel characters but no way in hell im dishing $1600 even if it is as big as this Neytiri...and its not cuz i can't afford it.

 

[sarvesh2000is]

Honestly, its never been a matter of money. My simple and only focus on buying these pieces is getting QUALITY. SS just cant deliver it!...thats why most people have an issue with dropping $1600 on something that (odds are) will show up with a horrible paint job.
The reason why no one complains about the price on their way walking into a Ferrari or Lamborghini dealership is because they KNOW they are paying for quality...and they will get it.
I can speak first hand to this because I DO own a Ferrari and a Lamborghini. I've never felt nervous dropping 300k on cars like that because I know what im actually paying for...quality. In its simplest form, its just a car. Their are millions in the world that all do the same thing. They have 4 wheels, doors, a steering wheel and a gas pedal. So why would anyone drop 300k on a car?....QUALITY

SS products are the "russian roulette" of quality. If they had a track record of delivering nothing but the BEST...believe me...no one would be harping on about the price. The reality is SS QC is horrible and in most cases its almost certin the piece that will show up at your door will be riddled with issues. Who will you ever convince to drop $1600 based on those odds?

Chris

I totally agree on the QUALITY point buddy.

 

[sarvesh2000is]

Hey!

I didn't realize but i thought I was quoting Howards.....my mistake.....sorry Sarvesh

But I wasn't trying to point fingers at someone specifically. I do understand that there are people that are only worried about quality and they believe that this piece is not worth $1600. I don't think anyone can really judge that until you see the piece up close and that is what I was referring to. Sometimes there is soooo much bashing about a piece and statements that are not necessarily true.....

How can one say something is not worth and goes off on a rant without having seen the piece and not knowing how much time and money was spent to make that maquette come to life for us collectors?

Anyway, as long as we keep it clean and respectful, I have no problem with complaints or criticism..... just let's not judge too fast without knowing all the facts....although you have the right to do so..

That's all...

Cheers

Bear

Well to sum this whole debate up, I can say it is nothing but 'HUMAN MENTALITY'. Even the best of stuff is criticized and so is the worst. Every individual has his own individual view point. What might be AWESOME for one person can be CRAP for another. And very few companies are able to sustain themselves in the long run given this fact.

Best example is not just of Ferraris or Lambos but of luxury swiss watches. I mean take Richard Mille for example. The company was established in 2000 and is not exactly known for ages in the watch making industry. But still they provide extraordinary quality and precision timepieces like Hublot, Audemars Piguet and so on . Some of the prices on their watches will make the Ferraris and Lambos look like $300 sideshow PF. There are people who will buy them like a piece of cake and admire them for the sheer quality and movement. And there are people who will bash this company for making such idiotically costly watches because even a $100 watch shows you the exact time and serves the purpose.

At the same time there are few other types who can afford the price tag but still will bash the company for making such ridiculous watches just because their mentality doesn't allow them spend their hard earned money or in other words their mindset does not let them invest so much on a watch which for them does nothing but shows you time. Human psychology is very very complex and you cannot point fingers at others just because you like something and they are not liking it.

So all cheers and appreciation goes towards Sideshow for doing what they love doing and are standing strong up against such harsh criticism and are able enough to survive.

 

[ETERNIA FOREVER]

Does anyone know the height of Neytiri?

I thought she was 30 plus inches ??

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

I disagree when people draw parallels when it comes to money with examples like: For that much money I could buy 6 premium formats or 4 lifesize busts! People that collect Hot Toys can make the same assumption like: for the money of one PF, I could buy 2 great Hot Toys. People however perceive more value on a Hot Toys because they do well on the aftermarket.

The points is that is all relative. The money is still going towards a non-essential commodity such as a collectible. Different people collect different things. If you can afford it then go for it. Those people that buy comiquettes and PFs and spend over $1600 in one year can enjoy their collecting budget however they like.

 

[Khev]

I disagree when people draw parallels when it comes to money with examples like: For that much money I could buy 6 premium formats or 4 lifesize busts!

And that's why I compared it the the Gandalf PF (also with light up feature no less.) Apples to apples. Sure I would expect Neytiri to cost more, but not $1300 more.

 

[Chaosorb]

I have to give my two cents on this.....

Here it goes....

I have the Neytiri statue and I like it a lot and although I think this maquette is very expensive, I can't say it is overpriced becausue I do not know how much it cost to make it, how much time they spend putting this thing together. Maybe the price is justified according to people who produced it...

I do agree with Howard that we should not bash Legacy or Sideshow because they made this available to us and if we are always complaining about it, they might just go "Screw that!! We are not making maquettes available to collectors anymore"

I will not pay $1600 for that statue not because I don't think it is worth it, but because it is a lot of money and I prefer to get 3 or 4 instead of one.

Remember this though.....People in this forum and many who are complaining about the price would not think twice in paying $1500 for Dr Doom Premium Format, or $1200 for Captain America Exclusive PF, or even $700 for Patient Zero PF.....how about $1800 for Grey Hulk PF????

Unlike the Neytiri Maquette, I don't think they are worth that much, but people here brag about spending big bucks on those pieces.

So, yes, this maquette is very expensive and I will not pay because I'm not a huge fan of the character....but I would pay $2500 to get Cinemaquette Predator.......Why? Because I love that character.

The truth of the matter is that none of us know if Neytiri is "worth" that much because we do not know how much it cost the producer to make it after all it is said and done.....but there is no need to attack Legacy or Sideshow because "you think" it is not worth that much...

Freedom of expression is great and I'm glad we live in a society that you can say whatever we want, but not all of us have good common sense and that shows in some of these threads.....

Off my soap box.....

Cheers

Bear

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

Sure I would expect Neytiri to cost more, but not $1300 more.

I agree with you. Then again we can guess that they use a few factories for all their licenses. The same dude painting Emma Frost LSB could be doing the Berserker bust for all we know. Every license cost is different and legacy putting their involvement comes with a hefty premium.

I expected it to be around the $1,000 to $1300 ballpark. We can speculate that the piece is more complex to paint but there lies the other problem: old Sideshow from 6-7 years ago would deliver a solid piece with high level paint job and the $1600 (factoring all variables) could almost be justified. New Sideshow does not do this and that, when all is said and done, is my biggest issue (besides the lack of a concrete ES which I find appaling at this price range with a huge deposit).

Something else to point out: Sideshow is their only competitor on this character. It's an interesting proposition to ask for $1600 when you yourself offer a cheaper alternative to the same discriminating bunch of collectors that criticize everything.

 

[thx217]

I disagree when people draw parallels when it comes to money with examples like: For that much money I could buy 6 premium formats or 4 lifesize busts! People that collect Hot Toys can make the same assumption like: for the money of one PF, I could buy 2 great Hot Toys. People however perceive more value on a Hot Toys because they do well on the aftermarket.

The points is that is all relative. The money is still going towards a non-essential commodity such as a collectible. Different people collect different things. If you can afford it then go for it. Those people that buy comiquettes and PFs and spend over $1600 in one year can enjoy their collecting budget however they like.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I could buy 2 great Hot Toys. People however perceive more value on a Hot Toys because they do well on the aftermarket.

I dont, i perceive more value because Hot Toys quality is outstanding, compare the Jack Sparrow PF to the DX Hot Toys for an easy example

 

[Sithlord1975]

I really don't fully understand the licensing crap and why that would have to drive the price up THAT much.
What about other products that obtain a license to use something?
If the new PS3 game I bought uses licensed music such as a Gran Tursimo game, does it have to cost 100 bucks, instead of 60?
This licensing argument can apply to countless products out there we can buy that have to use licensed properties to create their products: posters, puzzles, coloring books, hats, mugs etc etc

I think it more has to do with the Legacy involvement.
Still, the cost of this leads me to believe, each one is hand made, by only a handful of employees, and they need to pump out alot of product, therefore they have to charge more to cover costs and time spent.
But if thats not the case, and they can mass produce their stuff pretty quickly and easily,then ya, I still don't like the extreme price

 

[Phenix]

I really don't fully understand the licensing crap and why that would have to drive the price up THAT much.
What about other products that obtain a license to use something?
If the new PS3 game I bought uses licensed music such as a Gran Tursimo game, does it have to cost 100 bucks, instead of 60?
This licensing argument can apply to countless products out there we can buy that have to use licensed properties to create their products: posters, puzzles, coloring books, hats, mugs etc etc

I think it more has to do with the Legacy involvement.
Still, the cost of this leads me to believe, each one is hand made, by only a handful of employees, and they need to pump out alot of product, therefore they have to charge more to cover costs and time spent.
But if thats not the case, and they can mass produce their stuff pretty quickly and easily,then ya, I still don't like the extreme price

Well, in the case of video games they don't print a limited number (sure they don't produce/sell a lot as the game gets older) and if it's a popular game they sell millions of copies, so it's easier to spread the cost out. With these statues they have to spread that cost out among the ES. Plus they are in business to make a profit so they have to decide how much do they want to make from each piece

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

I dont, i perceive more value because Hot Toys quality is outstanding, compare the Jack Sparrow PF to the DX Hot Toys for an easy example

And people that buy PFs think that Hot Toys are too small and they are dolls. Especially since most collectors seem to have labelled 1/4 as the standard scale in high end collectibles.

HOWEVER, The ultimate weapon Hot Toys has as a defense argument (besides the obvious superior quality to most recent PFs) is that they are better collectibles. They appreciate more. They are more desired down the line. Going back to this Neytiri Legacy offering (using the Hot Toys to PFs example), if people felt the same way about this as a collectible investment as they feel about a Hot Toy, the price would not be such a big issue.

That's the perception most people have when it comes to value. Hard to mock something when it's rare and valuable. Even if it was originally overpriced and then reaches very desirable status.

 

[Khev]

It just seems to need something extra to justify that high of a price. An ES of 50 or less, handsigned plaque by James Cameron, etc.

 

[Phenix]

Well, They must be working on adding the page to the website right now because the Maquette section has disappeared from the Avatar license page.

 

[Phenix]

It will be limited, but they don't know what the quantity will be yet. I called again.

 

[Capulet1984]

It will be limited, but they don't know what the quantity will be yet. I called again.

Well done my spy.

 

[SolidLiquidFox]

It will be limited, but they don't know what the quantity will be yet. I called again.

Otherwise known as TBD.

Thanks for taking the time to call.

 

[Capulet1984]

a bit hope that when the statue become released the price would be decreased $100 off.