Lights for Detolf

[Rambler]

I just bought these two kinds of wire. I prefer the bell wire because it is solid and not stranded like the speaker wire.

Would either of these work?

 

[Pixelpiper]

Any wire will work, no matter how thick or if solid or stranded. You should return the stranded speaker/lamp-cord wire as it's going to be too cumbersome. It's thick, the casing/sheath is thick and it's heavy and floppy.

If you plan to do long runs, you can use the bell wire, though thermostat wire is my better recommendation because it's the same gauge and both wires come in a single easier to hide brown jacket. For shorter runs you can get away with thinner wire which you can find in a /2 configuration or for small odds and ends in singles /1 - often called "hook-up wire" in 20 or 22g a. It's also a lot easier to hide and you can get any color you want.

I've been using solid for much of the wiring here because it's easy to bend and will hold its shape. Stranded when I want flexibility, because solid will eventually break if bent too many times.

 

[Violent_Jay]

Thank you for the reply Pixel!

That's a good thing in the long-run, trust me! Your plan was getting overly complicated only to deal with IKEA's proprietary lighting setup.

It was indeed! And now with only the warm white option it doesn't pay off!

É muito mais simples!

Wow! You speak Portuguese?

Yes, but it would be a better idea to simplify the wiring instead of creating the extra work of duplicating the connections of the Dioder.

Everything should be available on Amazon UK, but it is also available on eBay with worldwide shipping and possibly much lower prices. You'll have to check.

Start going backwards in this thread and check the links I posted. Visit my build thread and see how easy it is to electrify the metal rails of the Detolf to carry low voltage power. Even if you didn't want to do the rail method, you could run ONE single channel inside your cabinet with a pair of wires inside it. Then for each shelf you'd have another small length of wire spliced into that main wire and attached to your LEDs.

Now after going backwards on this thread I must say that the LED ribbon solution is becoming very simple, even without using an assembling setup like the Dioders! At least in theory!

Of all the methods the rail method seems the most simple of all of it but since the rails become electryfied do you get a chance of being shocked if you touch them?

About the other option, of running a single channel inside the cabinet, I saw a post of yours talking about "reconstructing the ribbon" and chainning up the LED strips in series, using wire between sections of LED and I pictured this:



Is this what you were talking about? And is it possible?

So if I go with this method should this be my "shopping list"?:

1- LED ribbon ([ame="https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flexible-KITCHENS-LIGHTING-RESTAURANTS-DELIVERY/dp/B007O4I34U/ref=sr_1_1?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377486684&sr=1-1&keywords=led+ribbon+cool+white"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/Flexible-KITCHENS-LIGHTING-RESTAURANTS-DELIVERY/dp/B007O4I34U/ref=sr_1_1?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377486684&sr=1-1&keywords=led+ribbon+cool+white[/ame])
2- Power supply ([ame="https://www.amazon.co.uk/JnDee-Supply-ADAPTER-Transformer-Powering/dp/B0086D9J00/ref=pd_sim_light_2"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/JnDee-Supply-ADAPTER-Transformer-Powering/dp/B0086D9J00/ref=pd_sim_light_2[/ame])
3- Connectors ([ame="https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-Pin-Connector-Adapter-Single-Color/dp/B00B5915MM/ref=sr_1_6?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377487282&sr=1-6&keywords=led+connectors+pin"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/2-Pin-Connector-Adapter-Single-Color/dp/B00B5915MM/ref=sr_1_6?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377487282&sr=1-6&keywords=led+connectors+pin[/ame])
4- Female connector ([ame="https://www.amazon.co.uk/CONNECTOR-FEMALE-EASILY-CONNECTED-ADAPTER/dp/B00EJKCKAU/ref=sr_1_2?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377487518&sr=1-2&keywords=female+connectors+led"]https://www.amazon.co.uk/CONNECTOR-FEMALE-EASILY-CONNECTED-ADAPTER/dp/B00EJKCKAU/ref=sr_1_2?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1377487518&sr=1-2&keywords=female+connectors+led[/ame])
5- Wire

I cut four strips out of the LED ribbon (will ONE power supply be enough for 4 strips), one for each shelf. I use the connectores (does it matter if they're 8mm or 12mm? Or is that just the size of the connector itself?) connect the stips to the wires between them so that I don't have solder them, in something like this:

======[]------[]=====[]------[]=====[]------[]=====[]----

==== : LED strip
[] : Connector
------ : Wire

At the end of the last wire I put the female connector (how is it connected?) so I can plug it to the power supply.

For wire I see that you suggest thermostat. Will it work for my assembling? Can it be finded at any electric department store?

Also I saw some discussion between the 3528 type LED and the 5050. From what you said the 5050 can't be powered by a single/simples power supply like the above. So if I go with the 3528 type will it have the same cool white colour like the old Dioder or that cool white can only be achieved with the 5050 type?

Btw Pixel, if all that I said and planned is possible, I'll be glad if you could pinpoint me to better products/sellers in Amazon.uk!

Regards!

 

[Pixelpiper]

Wow! You speak Portuguese?

Sim, claro. Sou português - até originalmente de Lisboa.

Is this what you were talking about? And is it possible?

No, that has more wire running than what I was talking about. I will write a nice detailed reply addressing all your questions, just give me a day or two as I'm a little busy with a few other things at the moment.

 

[Hologram AI]

Has anyone tried these?

https://www.barlighting.com/4-Strip-Cool-White-Kit-p/4sk-cw.htm

I looked at some old threads and some people said it has a very light blue hue to it but it seems to be the best without going through the trouble of buying the whole set up separately.

Anyone have a picture with those set up in a detolf or is there another alternative that is just like this but pure white?

 

[Pixelpiper]

Those are "pure" white, just a very cool temperature. If you want something more "natural" closer to traditional lighting, then look for "warm" white.

 

[Violent_Jay]

Sim, claro. Sou português - até originalmente de Lisboa.

Entrar num fórum "estrangeiro" e a primeira pessoa que me ajuda com a minha questão também é portuguesa... Não estava mesmo nada à espera disto!

No, that has more wire running than what I was talking about. I will write a nice detailed reply addressing all your questions, just give me a day or two as I'm a little busy with a few other things at the moment.

So it won't work? By this I mean that the LED won't light up if I assemble them like that?
Anyway, I will gladly wait for that detailed reply! You're being a great help Pixel, thanks!

Anyone have a picture with those set up in a detolf or is there another alternative that is just like this but pure white?

Check this post by Pennyworth:
https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5829678&postcount=228

 

[golfpro1286]

Need to pick up a strip of cool white LEDs to light this from the bottom I think. What do you think? In this photo I just took a LED headlamp and laid it outside the case pointing into his face so there is a little glare. It looks great in person though!

 

[Pixelpiper]

Looks good - I'd recommend individual LEDs for the uplighting, surrounded by something to minimize spotting them from the sides. Is that from a specific scene in the movie? Because for the life of me I can't recall.

 

[golfpro1286]

Looks good - I'd recommend individual LEDs for the uplighting, surrounded by something to minimize spotting them from the sides. Is that from a specific scene in the movie? Because for the life of me I can't recall.

Yep it's from one of the final scenes in the dark knight. I didn't look at any photos when I posed him just now, but from memory I THINK he was uplight and the left side of his face was shaded for a good portion of the scene.

 

[golfpro1286]

I was looking at single LED surface mounted lights. How would I wire this? I can do the strips no problem but not sure on this one.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I was looking at single LED surface mounted lights. How would I wire this?

You don't. Not unless you're really good at SMT sodering, and then you'd still need to attach a resistor.

Instead, just get some pre-wired (with resistor) 5mm LEDs suitable for 9-12v from eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=pre-wired+12v++5mm+led&_sacat=0

Pay close attention to the color temperature that you'll be buying.

 

[golfpro1286]

Awesome! I got some picked up, I am guessing these will need to be powered through a separate power supply from my LED strips huh?

 

[Pixelpiper]

You can power them from the same supply as long as you're not exceeding the rated power consumption of that supply (or it will overheat, possibly burn out).

 

[Violent_Jay]

Need to pick up a strip of cool white LEDs to light this from the bottom I think. What do you think? In this photo I just took a LED headlamp and laid it outside the case pointing into his face so there is a little glare. It looks great in person though!

Nice one mate!

Is that a "normal" Joker figure or a specially made figure to be posed just like the scene in the movie? 'Cause if it's a "normal" Joker figure that was a great idea, since the lunatic face/smile is almost exactly like the one he does in the movie and the hands too!

Btw, when I reply to a post I get a message saying that the reply will only be visible after being moderated. I don't find any information about that on the FAQ section.
Is it normal and will it change as I become more active in the forum?

 

[aau10]

Finally finished my project. Thanks pixelpiper for the pointers!

 

[aau10]

 

[OnyxBen]

Hey Collectors,

i used 2 sets of the IKEA LED round Dioder for one Detolf.
The cables go down inside the Detolf in 2 plastic wireways, one on the right and one on the left. I drilled a hole into the wood under each wireway, where the cables of the Dioder go outside the Detolf.
This is the way it looks now:

Ben

 

[Violent_Jay]

Clean display!
You used the LED ribbon method described by Pixelpiper? If so, how did you assembled the setup?

 

[ShortRound]

Looking for original Ikea cool white LED strip lights. Please contact me if interested in selling. Thanks.

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133336