Man of Steel (SPOILERS)

[The Phantom]

Wrong. It's just not the tone you wanted for a Superman movie, or the exact same tone from he Reeve Superman. But it is correct for a Superman story. It matches the tone of several Superman stories in comics both classic and modern.

How long are the fans of MOS going to keep playing the Christopher Reeve card? It seems like the only way that you can defend your film is to knock what came before. Even Zack Snyder is doing it. That's pretty weak.

I don't know about anyone else. but I was done with CR after Superman II.
I didn't see SM III or IV in the theatre, I didn't pay to see III (my friend's Uncle taped it off cable), and I rented IV for a dollar, because of a mixture of boredom and morbid curiosity. That's it.

To be honest, CR really wasn't even MY Superman. Yes, I saw STM in the theatre when I was 11, but up till then I was watching George Reeves EVERYDAY on television. So even though I was the right age for CR doesn't mean I embraced him completely.

I liked STM, but there were things about it that I didn't. For me though, the good outweighed the bad. I still think it's a good movie, both of them. But that's where it stopped. I was over it.

I mean, it's not like I liked Superman Returns. I hated that crap. When I first heard about Singer's "idea" the first thing I thought was, "Wow, that's sounds really stupid.", and it wasn't like that film was a huge success or anything, so why would you keep thinking that the reason why anybody didn't like MOS is because they're all "wrapped up in the Chris Reeve movies". That really doesn't make any sense.

Truth be told, if Zack Snyder didn't want to be compared to Richard Donner then he shouldn't have copied him.

Did he have to use Zod for the big bad? No he didn't. He could have used Brainiac, like a lot of fans wanted. But no, he went with Zod, just like Richard Donner. The only difference is that RD was smart enough to save Zod and co. for the sequel, so audiences could get to know the main characters and care about them, not try to cram everything into one film like MOS did. Which is exactly what they did, they remade Superman I and II. The only problem was they weren't very good about it.

So for the record, this Superman fan isn't, "all hung up on the Christopher Reeve movies", I didn't like MOS for the simplest reason there is:

I thought it was a lousy movie.

 

[moose]

I mean its ultimately a matter of taste although I think most fan boys who hated it did not like the interpretation of this superman as it clashes with what they had in mind.

These movies are not only made with fans in mind but it has to appeal to the general public or else they will never get made. The casual movie goers taste are what is determining what style these movies are shot in and considering that the Dark Knight Franchise was very successful it would stand to reason that they would continue in the same vein.

 

[MarfMaster]

The only difference is that RD was smart enough to save Zod and co. for the sequel, so audiences could get to know the main characters and care about them, not try to cram everything into one film like MOS did. Which is exactly what they did, they remade Superman I and II. The only problem was they weren't very good about it.

I thought it was a lousy movie.

Preach.

 

[Brainiac]

I thought the final battle was too over the top, I liked the climax but all those people dying, ''Thanks for 'saving' us Superman we believe in you'', (whispers)''someone get him off this planet''

 

[GasparZizou]

How long are the fans of MOS going to keep playing the Christopher Reeve card? It seems like the only way that you can defend your film is to knock what came before. Even Zack Snyder is doing it. That's pretty weak.

He's not knocking what it came before and that's not the "go to response" of the MoS fans and it's not the only way to defend the movie.

If you were in this thread since the beginning you'd know that the ones who brought up the Donner movies were the ones who were hating on MoS, but you can't actually blame no one for it, it's the natural comparison, you can't expect these two versions to not be compared.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

I agree with Phantom. You can't redo the origin AND have Zod as the villain and not be seen as a retread of the Donner films. Snyder brought that on himself.

 

[GasparZizou]

That's what I'm saying, it's a natural comparison, even if Snyder didn't use Zod comparisons between both version would've popped out.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

Nope, I like it more every time I watch it.

I'm the same way. I'm a big Superman fan and really liked seeing a lot of my favorite stuff from John Bryne's "Man of Steel." It was an interesting take on the origin, and it used a tone, which I don't normally associate with the character. I've read at least 10 different Superman origins and this was one of my favorites. As far as favorite on screen portrayals, Tim Daly and Dana Delany are my favorites for Clark and Lois, and if it was too similar, it might not have been as exciting. Heck, this was just an origin, so I don't fully know who these characters are to judge that! Anyways, I enjoyed it, and am looking forward to the sequel.

 

[crows]

Nope, I like it more every time I watch it.

I for one love this movie and I am glad that DC had its own style when creating their universe . I like the grounded feel similar to the Dark Knight series only done with a different character. And to be honest and I have said this before I think we all expect them to adapt the Death and Return of Superman which will lend its self to this type of feel especially when they "kill " him.

When you know that dragon ball z is actually inspired by superman thats pretty cool.

Cant get enough of the final battle, its relentless, violent and beautifully shot.
Doubt any movie Will top that level of superheros action anytime soon.
Jay Olivia and Snyder are a great team cant wait to see what they come up with MOS 2 and JLA.

i love the final battle as well. i dont like the beginning as much but once zod appears the movie becomes awesome. from then on it is great

 

[snoop101]

We did see him save the oil rig workers and see him saving the bus in the flashback. Not as impressive as saving a cat from a tree I guess

Grounded to me means it feel real. Thats the feeling I got from it it well I know he cant turn back time and kiss away memories maybe next time

 

[a-dev]

Don't make me ground you in reality Snoop because I will. I'll ihop on your head and product place you into the floor!

 

[JAWS]

All this "people don't like it because it's not CR and he is not wearing red underwear" is a bit over the top.
How About I don't like the film because it lacks any emotion.


Sure there was a lot of sestruction but the fights were not that interesting... Well The first fight in Smallville was interesting and well done but the Fight with Zod was boring and uninspired. The Terraformer fight possibly the most boring modern super hero action scene ever. Some of that is the flaw of the character. Because he is the man of steel we don't really worry to much about him. It's why it's good to surround him with characters we do care about so that we can hope that Superman will save the day. But the film failed there also.

I WANT to like this movie... I do enjoy the first 45 min. I enjoyed the Kypton scens much more the second time. The School Bus and Oil rig rescue are some of the best things in any Super Hero film. But then Zod shows up and it all falls apart. Am I supposed to care about anyone?? The Daily Planet crew??? Lois?? I guess you can say it's grounded in reality when in reality if I only met uniteresting people for five min I would not give much thought to their fate other then normal human compasion.

It just fall flat... Zod is a whinner, cry baby who was also given no real character for me to be interested in.

I love Amy Adams in about everything but this film. SHe was OK. But nothing that any other actress could not have pulled off. Not her fault. Just the fault of a boring script that cared nothing for it's characters. And because the film is told in flash back for the first hour it ends up huriting the Superman Character because we never really get to know him. Or at least know this take on him.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Grounded to me means it feel real. Thats the feeling I got from it it well I know he cant turn back time and kiss away memories maybe next time

That's how I see grounded. It presents fantastical subject matter in a believable way.

All this "people don't like it because it's not CR and he is not wearing red underwear" is a bit over the top.
How About I don't like the film because it lacks any emotion.

I found it have much emotion. There was more emotion in the opening scene of this than in the entirety of some CBMs.

 

[a-dev]

Sure there was a lot of sestruction but the fights were not that interesting... Well The first fight in Smallville was interesting and well done

I watched it recently and LOLed at where Superman says ''stay inside, it isn't safe''......errrr, seems to me being inside a building is where you are least safe in this particular film. You'd be better off running into the fields.

 

[Frank]

if this movie was Green Lantern or something different like that no one would hate on it. That's a fact.

Everyone hates on it because it is not the typical good boy superman with the red underwear on the outside that saves kitties from trees.

Lots of people hated on the Green Lantern, including me. Man Of Hope-Light would have been an absolute garbage Green Lantern film too. Primarily because it chose frenetic cgi action/destruction over character motivations that even come close to making sense.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

That's how I see grounded. It presents fantastical subject matter in a believable way.



I found it have much emotion. There was more emotion in the opening scene of this than in the entirety of some CBMs.

You mean the opening sequence with all the laser guns, CGI costumes, explosions and Russell Crowe jumping off a giant dragonfly? That's practically CASABLANCA material right there.

 

[GasparZizou]

Yeah, let's ignore the coup scene, the great dialogue between Jor and Zod, the emotional scene in which Lara and Jor have to send Kal away and the Zod's trial followed by the subsequent Oil Rig rescue.... Completely devoid of emotion.

 

[Frank]

Yeah, let's ignore the coup scene, the great dialogue between Jor and Zod, the emotional scene in which Lara and Jor have to send Kal away and the Zod's trial followed by the subsequent Oil Rig rescue.... Completely devoid of emotion.

Emotional for whom? I'll agree that the characters where in an emotional state, but does the audience really connect with them? Overall I'd say that was a big failure of the film.

 

[GasparZizou]

Emotional for whom? I'll agree that the characters where in an emotional state, but does the audience really connect with them? Overall I'd say that was a big failure of the film.

For me obviously, people who liked it agree that it had many powerful moments.

 

[Dr.Mirakle32]

The coup scene was cheesy and looked like it was right out of a video game. "Who determines which bloodlines survive, Zod............you?" Crowe's delivery sounded like he expected it to cut to Shannon, but the editor decided to let it play out.

I will give you the Oil Rig scene. That was the most Supermanly part of the entire film.