Mandalorian Poll (episode 4 spoiler inside)

[jye4ever]

Choose!

 

[Otomofan]

Who knows?

People used to hate Hayden Christensen with a passion. His performance was mocked for years.

Last year he goes to Celebration and all the people that trashed him for 15 years are now crying and snotting themselves just to be in his presence.

When it comes to the prequels, you either die a villain or live long enough to see yourself become the hero.

 

[ironwez20]

It was ot fans who hated him. We who grew up with clones wars and all the pt stuff had no issue with him. I never understood the hate. Star Wars isn’t known for its great acting anyway. Also I guess they expected darth Vader to be this strong gruff evil guy from the start? But got mad when he was a happy kid and a teen with anger issues? Never understood it but glad all that undeserved hatred is out the window. Maybe the ST will see something like this? But I doubt it

 

[RandomHero]

Man, didn't expect episode spoilers in a thread title on the recent activity section, but here we are lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

Spoiler?

 

[BladeS]

Not much of a spoiler, he just makes an appearance in a flashback. Whether or not he is still alive or shows up in the present is yet to be seen. They will probably be exploring more backstory next week.

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

I'd really like to be able to go onto the internet for a couple days after an episode of a show drops before I have a key moment ruined for me. Thanks.

 

[jye4ever]

My bad thread updated

 

[Ramatuelle]

Perhaps Grogu will dish out the punishment that Jar Jar actually deserves for helping to usher in the Dark Times.

I'd pay a dollar to see that one, let me tell you.

But in all seriousness, I doubt it. I doubt Best wants to even be in the same room as the memory of Binks, said episode probably being one of the worst of his life. Doubt he yearns any more association with that character.

 

[ironwez20]

I remember as a kid I loved jar jar. Thought he was cool. Really fun. I was 8 tho and they marketed him heavily to the kids. I remember seeing him everywhere like he was the main character. got so many jar jar toys. Was even jar jar for Halloween. Yea idk what I was thinking. I look back and he was such a dumb character who would have been cool if Lucas just stuck to his “rumored” plan of making him the phantom menace Sith Lord. Would have been absolutely earth shattering but I guess he was just some idiot frog man

 

[RavenAsh]

Not sure if the fact he took off using a Naboo ship means anything or not...guess we'll see. I seriously doubt it, but I also don't think his Jedi self is long for the world.

I will say if this happens it will bring with it another wave of Dave Filoni cameo-verse jokes which would be completely deserved.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I remember as a kid I loved jar jar. Thought he was cool. Really fun. I was 8 tho and they marketed him heavily to the kids. I remember seeing him everywhere like he was the main character. got so many jar jar toys. Was even jar jar for Halloween. Yea idk what I was thinking. I look back and he was such a dumb character who would have been cool if Lucas just stuck to his “rumored” plan of making him the phantom menace Sith Lord. Would have been absolutely earth shattering but I guess he was just some idiot frog man

The Phantom Menace, including Jar Jar Binks, takes on an entirely different kind of impact once you've seen Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress.

If you haven't seen Hidden Fortress that IMHO, that's a good place to start to unpack what Lucas was trying to do. I don't think he hit the mark he intended, but Hidden Fortress illuminates the roadmap involved in the attempt.

Something interesting outside of Star Wars is Chuck Lorre, when writing for The Big Bang Theory, inserted in a short scene with the Penny character doing a commercial. She was supposed to be a struggling actress on the show. Lorre was interviewed somewhere and said it was just completely unreasonable for Penny to never get any kind of acting work and stay in that area. It's just not plausible. In effect, he had to "ground" the character in some kind of functional reality.

You'll see it in other shows. Flanders in The Simpsons, or Boyle in Brooklyn 99 or Drax in GOTG, characters that ride so far into ridiculousness, that it cracks open basic suspension of disbelief.

Jar Jar Binks was not as much of a horrible character decision ( but it had huge problems) as much as it was also poorly executed. He needed another Gungan as a foil. A contrast to show that Gungans weren't just dumb animals/aliens. Also the decision to make his dialogue almost incomprehensible was another insane choice. Then Lucas didn't establish how Jar Jar could be useful to that world. You can be dumb, but if you want some semblance of realism in the character, he can't be constantly stupid all the time.

If you replaced Jar Jar Binks with two Hammerhead aliens, who had clearly established kind of jobs/careers in that universe, and at least one looked somewhat competent, then that would have worked better to drive the story forward.

Kurosawa was big on characters not being what the audience perceived of them from the start. But he never took it too far over the edge. His characters were playing the role of foolish, but not totally incompetent. Jar Jar Binks was totally incompetent.

In effect, Lucas gave everyone the floppy eared version of Boyle from Brooklyn 99 and made him a major character. Of course a large share of the audience was going to hate Jar Jar Binks.

Phantom Menace has many of the raw components of an actual good movie in there. It's just saddled down by a situation where no one could tell Lucas that his ideas needed more work.

 

[chrisstbh]

They are not going to have Jar Jar Binks in this show.

 

[a-dev]

I see ''Multiple votes are allowed''. So we can vote both YES and NO. How are we supposed to get a true answer to this most profoundly important question.

 

[jye4ever]

I see ''Multiple votes are allowed''. So we can vote both YES and NO. How are we supposed to get a true answer to this most profoundly important question.

I was half asleep when I created this damn thing I even had a spoiler in the title lol

DISASTER DAMMIT LOL

 

[Darthrazz]

Maybe we'll see a scene where Best cuts Jar Jar down with his lightsaber.

 

[Darthrazz]

I think Raj-Raj Skinb would have been awesome name as well, instead of Kelleran Beq.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Maybe we'll see a scene where Best cuts Jar Jar down with his lightsaber.

I would in fact pay $2 to see that.