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There's really no excuse for showing one thing and then selling something else. That drives me nuts. If you can't spend the money on paintwork or something then have your act together and know that before you start showing prototypes to the public so you can actually deliver what you show.
 
Right now the big stink is...WHERE IS THE PROMISED KING HISS SNAKE FORM???????

It was not shown,nor was this packed in with any 2015 figures that were shown packaged at the Con
 
I'm all in on the Thundercats. Matty please complete the original LJN line before any cartoon only characters are made. Now if the Four Horsemen can figure out a way to squeeze in some Tigersharks figures, my life would be complete.
 
What do you guys think of these filmation figures? I guess they're based on the simplistic animation of the series but I'm not feeling the looks of them at all. Kinda look like cheap chinese knockoffs of motuc.

That Skeletor head is sick tho...


yeah, same boat. not feeling them.

Grats fr those that like them, hoping we see a 200x he-man now as well.
 
Right now the big stink is...WHERE IS THE PROMISED KING HISS SNAKE FORM???????

It was not shown,nor was this packed in with any 2015 figures that were shown packaged at the Con

Yeah, I was thinking that yesterday looking at the rest of the 2015 line up. That really isn't cool. I'm not going to say it was the reason I subbed, but the promise of that snake body packaged in with a figure from the 2015 sub was a HUGE factor in my subbing up last year. Right now, I'm just thankful I never got around to buying that 2nd King Hiss I planned to display it with.

I'm all in on the Thundercats. Matty please complete the original LJN line before any cartoon only characters are made. Now if the Four Horsemen can figure out a way to squeeze in some Tigersharks figures, my life would be complete.

I may be all in for Thundercats as well.... never wanted to sub to a Matty line ever again, but I may have just been sucked back in.

And I would seriously loose my **** for 4 Horseman Tigershark figures.
 
What thundercats cat figures are guys most looking forward to besides the ones we've already seen? My #1 would be Jaga and then probably Monkian.
 
There's really no excuse for showing one thing and then selling something else. That drives me nuts. If you can't spend the money on paintwork or something then have your act together and know that before you start showing prototypes to the public so you can actually deliver what you show.
Every line does this. This is a product show case..why would they not present the best they could do...unless they have the 4h paint every production figure there's going to be some difference.
 
Yeah, I was thinking that yesterday looking at the rest of the 2015 line up. That really isn't cool. I'm not going to say it was the reason I subbed, but the promise of that snake body packaged in with a figure from the 2015 sub was a HUGE factor in my subbing up last year. Right now, I'm just thankful I never got around to buying that 2nd King Hiss I planned to display it with.



I may be all in for Thundercats as well.... never wanted to sub to a Matty line ever again, but I may have just been sucked back in.

And I would seriously loose my **** for 4 Horseman Tigershark figures.
Me too man. Make it Mako for me!
 
I collect figuarts, yeah some of them are pricier than motuc but the quality is unparalleled. Tamashii Nations makes the best figures in the world.

To each his own, "best" is subjective. I think if you're a big fan of the type of properties Figuarts tends to make figures figure (anime, power rangers, etc), then you'll definitely like them better.

What do you guys think of these filmation figures? I guess they're based on the simplistic animation of the series but I'm not feeling the looks of them at all. Kinda look like cheap chinese knockoffs of motuc.

That Skeletor head is sick tho...

The heads all look great, I like that everyone has hinged wrists. I'm interested to see how the final products look like, especially with the new (maybe resealable? packaging). I really like how closely the details (or lack thereof) match with the animation on the bodies of the figures. Beast Man especially looks like he stepped right out of the cartoon. Is it going to be for everyone? No, but there are people that have been waiting thirty years for these figures. I think they'll be a hit, people love Filmation.

Yes, Figmas, Revoltechs, and SH Figuarts tend to be smaller than a MOTUC figure. The only exception I've seen to this is SH Figuarts Broly, who's even bigger than MOTUC Ram Man. Still, I've never had a problem with them being smaller. I don't really get the "bigger than = better than" mindset that seems to permeate this hobby.

To me, MOTUC are the perfect size for a figure - big enough to feel nice and chunky in your hands, but not big enough to be overwhelming and huge space hogs (like Hot Toys). Most import figures feel a little small to me, especially when you look at the price. It's like, "I just paid $50 for a figure that's 4 inches tall?"


As far as articulation goes, Figma and SH Figuarts figures tend to do whatever I want without any issues. I've had some aggravations with Revoltech figures though.

I mean, the joints are there, they're mostly fine, but I don't know if it's the light weight or what, but they're just not very fun to pose around. They tend to be very finnicky and tough to get into good poses. The joints on Figuarts/Figma are often ugly too, with exposed metal rivets. The Figuarts shoulders are often awful as well - the weird disjointed shoulder pieces on the Power Rangers figures that always spin around, or the annoying sleeves on the DBZ figures. Usually the range of motion is awesome, but it's not without compromise.

And Revoltech joints are absolute crap, I don't know why anyone would chose to make figures like that.


Still, the average Figma will come with several different expressions, a highly posable body, some accessories, a rack of hands to hold all their accessories and give you more display options, a support stand to help with dynamic posing, and collector friendly packaging.

Honestly, I don't get the "more stuff = better" mindset that permeates this hobby. I usually find one set of face/hands/accessories that works well, and the rest of the stuff never comes out of the box. But I do like the collector friendly packaging and the stands!


Not only that, what you see for the prototype is what you'll end up with in hand. Max Factory has never cut corners on a production piece and then whined about rising plastic and labor costs in a pathetic attempt to justify shortchanging fans like Mattel has done.

Well, you don't hear whining, because you can't understand what they're saying :rotfl.

But seriously, not many companies communicate quite as much as Mattel has with the fanbase (which is both good and bad - see people complaining about "whining"). And there are definitely changes between prototype and production. Just check out the DBZ thread to see all the latest drama about shading on DBZ Super Saiyan hair on production vs prototype, or the lack of paint apps on recent releases like Vegetto. And it's not even limited to them, from what we've heard from the Transformers Masterpiece developers, they also make cuts on scale, paint apps, parts, etc. due to budget reasons. All toy manufacturers are limited by the same laws of physics.
 
Anyone see many pics inside Snake Mountain? It always had a fairly poorly defined interior, I felt. Just wondered what was in there.
 
Anyone see many pics inside Snake Mountain? It always had a fairly poorly defined interior, I felt. Just wondered what was in there.

From the drawing, there's a good amount of stuff in there, but it didn't look like they were 100% done sculpting in there.
 
From the drawing, there's a good amount of stuff in there, but it didn't look like they were 100% done sculpting in there.

Ah, thanks. Yeah I've seen pics from a sort of side angle and there were some neat molded bits, but no pics have been straight on from the back that I've seen.
 
The heads all look great, I like that everyone has hinged wrists. I'm interested to see how the final products look like, especially with the new (maybe resealable? packaging). I really like how closely the details (or lack thereof) match with the animation on the bodies of the figures. Beast Man especially looks like he stepped right out of the cartoon. Is it going to be for everyone? No, but there are people that have been waiting thirty years for these figures. I think they'll be a hit, people love Filmation.

I think the filmation style figures look better than the classics counterparts. Sure they are less detailed, but they look exactly like the character they are representing. I wish the Lion-O was a bit more faithful to the animation and less embelished. Change the face and the claw shield and it would be spot on.
 
What do you guys think of these filmation figures? I guess they're based on the simplistic animation of the series but I'm not feeling the looks of them at all. Kinda look like cheap chinese knockoffs of motuc.

That Skeletor head is sick tho...

They look cheap and too close to the cartoon. They won't fit in with anything else in the line, including previously made filmation figures
 
They look cheap and too close to the cartoon. They won't fit in with anything else in the line, including previously made filmation figures

I don't think they look cheap at all, and how can looking too much like the thing your're trying to represent be an issue? I don't have any of the classics, but if I had to choose the more detailed He-Man/ Skeletor or these ones, it would be filmation all the way.
 
They look cheap and too close to the cartoon. They won't fit in with anything else in the line, including previously made filmation figures

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I think it's the fact that this line is stylistically sooooo different from itself sometimes. It's hard to believe some of these figures are a part of the same line.
 
I think the Filmation figures look pretty silly and out of place. I will for sure be passing on those.
 
To each his own, "best" is subjective. I think if you're a big fan of the type of properties Figuarts tends to make figures figure (anime, power rangers, etc), then you'll definitely like them better.

I was speaking more in terms of engineering. I mean hot toys are incredible, but when I say figures I meant smaller scale ones, like figma or revoltech, which are also amazing as has been said before. It's just a case of preference, some people see positives in both lines. The difference between motuc and figuarts is like the difference between a jeep and a honda. Both good vehicles, different purposes. Some people like the clunkiness of motuc, others like the streamlined feel of figuarts (I feel like I could actually play with an motuc if I wanted to and the figure would hold up, but figuarts won't hold up to play). I still don't know how the japanese make the figures so light, but it kinda makes me think that mattel is just wasting plastic.

And they don't only do Japanese properties. They came out with an incredible line of Avengers figures last year. Here's their Cap:
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