NFL Thread

[BadMoon]

My Eagles Cardinals tickets are now far more interesting. Can't wait to go!

 

[karamazov80]

Seems like a general criticism at the end of games is that refs should let plays go without throwing flags when they otherwise might. I'm sure some wish that happened with the Saints game. And based on that, if a flag is thrown, in general I think folks would prefer a conservative approach to actually enforcing the rule, considering that the refs don't want to be deemed "responsible" for a game. Given that the flag was thrown and a conference held that led to the flag being picked up, it seems like this one would be a lot easier for folks to swallow than other cases.

But yeah, nothing worse than "fishy" calls at the end of games where the refs cost the team that should have won the victory.

 

[Grenouille]

Good one, got any jokes about cameras up your sleeve?

 

[BadMoon]

Seems like a general criticism at the end of games is that refs should let plays go without throwing flags when they otherwise might. I'm sure some wish that happened with the Saints game. And based on that, if a flag is thrown, in general I think folks would prefer a conservative approach to actually enforcing the rule, considering that the refs don't want to be deemed "responsible" for a game. Given that the flag was thrown and a conference held that led to the flag being picked up, it seems like this one would be a lot easier for folks to swallow than other cases.

But yeah, nothing worse than "fishy" calls at the end of games where the refs cost the team that should have won the victory.

I guess it depends on who your team is.

 

[BadMoon]

Good one, got any jokes about cameras up your sleeve?

Bill can't hide them. He cuts them *****es off.

 

[karamazov80]

In the case of the Saints, I actually think that's a call refs are going to make 9 times out of 10, any time during a game, so I don't think the point of the game actually means much. Nor do I think there is much controversy. At this point in time, traditional QBs are going to get that call almost every time, even if some may argue that it isn't the letter of the law.

I do acknowledge that scrambling-type QBs who initiate more contact (Vick, Roethlesberger, Newton) aren't going to get that call as often, and I think that's unfortunate, but a side effect of refs starting to see those guys more as running backs in some situations than as QBs.

 

[GodzillaSpawn]

Seems like a general criticism at the end of games is that refs should let plays go without throwing flags when they otherwise might. I'm sure some wish that happened with the Saints game. And based on that, if a flag is thrown, in general I think folks would prefer a conservative approach to actually enforcing the rule, considering that the refs don't want to be deemed "responsible" for a game. Given that the flag was thrown and a conference held that led to the flag being picked up, it seems like this one would be a lot easier for folks to swallow than other cases.

But yeah, nothing worse than "fishy" calls at the end of games where the refs cost the team that should have won the victory.

It's just interesting to hear how the NFL responds to this incidents as well as the fans. During the Super Bowl, the "rational" response I kept hearing over the fuss about the end of the game with the Michael Crabtree no-call was that it was better that no flag was thrown because if it had been it would have set the 49ers up with a first and goal and practically handed up the game. I didn't really argue that, after all, I took for bigger issue with the lack of holding call on the kick return after halftime because I felt it was so super obvious right in the middle of the field.

The Saints/Niners game, looking back at it, doesn't hurt me as bad. By the rules I don't disagree with the flag. You can't hit a QB in the head OR neck. It's just the rules that I despise. Growing up, that was the way the game was played. That Brooks sack/fumble would have been a brilliant play back when football was a grown man's game. It's just a shame that his effort and impact is negated by rules that I don't agree with. That's it.

The Pats and Panthers game is a different story from that. I think at the very least, we all agree that At LEAST holding was committed by Kuechly. He was draped all over the guy. The problem seems to be because the one ref threw a flag for PI that suddenly once they came to the idea that the ball was underthrown, they couldn't penalize the Panthers for holding or even hands to the face. But no matter how you look at it, the Pats deserved another shot on the goal-line. But there's no way that ridiculous contact from the Panthers should have not drawn a penalty.

But, yes, there are bad calls and missed calls in every game. After all, I honestly seem to see holding on every play and it doesn't get called. Human error will happen and I can't imagine trying to catch everything like these refs are supposed to. But it's just a shame when refs are a factor in the outcome ala the Green Bay/Seattle game last season or the game last night.

 

[Grenouille]

Finally some good NFL news. Dierdorf to retire from stating the obvious.

@BenVolin: CBS announces that Dan Dierdorf is retiring after this season. Has been in the NFL for 43 straight years -- 13 as player, 30 as broadcaster

An early Christmas present!

 

[ProgMatinee]

Its kind of ironic that after you complained that Denver's WRs always ask for holding or PI calls that your team gets punked by a lack of a call.

 

[karamazov80]

I don't think I've seen him do many games. I guess that's a function of his being a CBS analyst and my team being in the NFC.

 

[Grenouille]

I don't think I've seen him do many games. I guess that's a function of his being a CBS analyst and my team being in the NFC.

You're lucky. I've heard him way too much over the past decade since CBS has usually had either their A Team (Nantz/Simms) or the B (Gumbel/Dierdorf) covering Pats games.

 

[karamazov80]

I don't know if I would say we're lucky. We get way too many games with Kenny Albert or Brian Billick

 

[user 1190]

I think Graham just cemented a no dunking rule this off season with another delay due to damaged upright.

 

[Nava509]

Can't wait for next Monday night Seahawks are gonna make a big statement to the nfl and I will be there loud and proud Go Hawks!!!!

 

[Darth Madden]

Can't wait for next Monday night Seahawks are gonna make a big statement to the nfl and I will be there loud and proud Go Hawks!!!!

Hell yeah... I'll be there in spirit.

 

[Black Knight]

Finally some good NFL news. Dierdorf to retire from stating the obvious.



An early Christmas present!

I hate listening to that guy.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

I think Graham just cemented a no dunking rule this off season with another delay due to damaged upright.

More rules for the no fun league

 

[user 1190]

More rules for the no fun league

Yah but you can't having to delay a game because a guy keeps tilting goal posts.

 

[Grenouille]

Yah but you can't having to delay a game because a guy keeps tilting goal posts.

This could be an opportunity for more commercials though. There aren't enough of those during NFL telecasts.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

This could be an opportunity for more commercials though. There aren't enough of those during NFL telecasts.

I'm use to the following types of commercials during games....

1. Motor oil

2. Trucks

3. Beer

4. Erectile dysfunction