Nuking the Fridge Moments 2008

[LOTRFan]

I don't agree with the "it's just a movie" excuse and I don't think it's cynical at all to expect a story that is logical and internally consistent. Every story establishes rules & mechanics, expressly or implied, of what can and cannot occur in that world. Most often those rules are very close to if not the same as the real world. When the narrative violates those rules, the audience will naturally be irritated and it will take them out of the story. It's one of the many things that separates a well written story from a poorly written one.

Exactly, as long as it is coherent within it's own universe/storyline it will work just fine; but a Tarzan yelling Chewbacca crosses such boundaries - as do a good many of the worst moments.

 

[uscmhicks]

i like how he can pick apart little details as being inaccurate but he has no problem with the fact that one cannot actually journey to the center of the earth. vampires dont really exist. and yeti dont exist either and if they did who's to say they wouldnt like american football?

you hit the nail on the head imo.

I love the Nuked fridge moment as much as TOD mine cart chase or when Mola Ram takes a guys heart out and he's still alive. Not to mention the inflating dingy parachute.

Ditto.

 

[CelticPredator]

I would mention James Bond movies but it would take all day

. One day would equa ALL of Die Another Day's NTF moments....

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I've seen all but one of those films - and I'd say that guy needs to go back to "suspension of disbelief" school - THEY'RE ONLY MOVIES!

Agree 100%

 

[NASEDO]

Great Article, and I do agree. Didn't we just go over this here. The Fridge scene in INDY was so stupid. Again, like in The Last Crusade, yes the Holy Grail has magical powers, but INDY hiding in a Fridge doesn't.

The more "real" a movie is, the more praise it will get. The new Batman is now famous for it. Look at the Joker from the 1st movie. Clowns running around all the stupid stuff. TDK brought realism to the comic book world and now its the new standard in film making for these films. We know movies aren't real, and there are supposed to make our imaginations run wild, but I can't imagine INDY surviving that abomb.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Great Article, and I do agree. Didn't we just go over this here. The Fridge scene in INDY was so stupid. Again, like in The Last Crusade, yes the Holy Grail has magical powers, but INDY hiding in a Fridge doesn't.

The more "real" a movie is, the more praise it will get. The new Batman is now famous for it. Look at the Joker from the 1st movie. Clowns running around all the stupid stuff. TDK brought realism to the comic book world and now its the new standard in film making for these films. We know movies aren't real, and there are supposed to make our imaginations run wild, but I can't imagine INDY surviving that abomb.

I can't imagine him surviving against entire armies of Nazis or falling out an airplane in an inflatible raft or that mine car chase, but it's damn fun watching him do it anyway.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

All I can say is that I liked KOTCS and I don't care what that fool who wrote the article thinks.

 

[CelticPredator]

Great Article, and I do agree. Didn't we just go over this here. The Fridge scene in INDY was so stupid. Again, like in The Last Crusade, yes the Holy Grail has magical powers, but INDY hiding in a Fridge doesn't.

The more "real" a movie is, the more praise it will get. The new Batman is now famous for it. Look at the Joker from the 1st movie. Clowns running around all the stupid stuff. TDK brought realism to the comic book world and now its the new standard in film making for these films. We know movies aren't real, and there are supposed to make our imaginations run wild, but I can't imagine INDY surviving that abomb.

Thats not true. No one wants Spider-Man to get more "real"...the only reason why Batman needed that realistic side was because of the last movie before Begins.

Same with Casino Royale. If Die Another Day wasnt made the way it was, then Casino Royale wouldnt have been made the way IT was.

 

[DinoLast]

Ok I have one. And first of all I want to add that I love this movie.

How the hell does the T1000 work because it's bothered me for years
Is there a small device inside the liquid? How did they create such an amazing upgrade from the T800 in such a small space of time? I thought Arnold was a new model in the first one.

 

[NASEDO]

If KOTCS was so good how come it wasn't thought as an equal to Raiders. These stupid over the top movies will never get respect. Look at all the great movies, oscar winners. Gladiator, TDK, Braveheart, any of them, they all hard that sense of realism in which the viewer can relate to and become linked to that world. Even Raiders. Yes, the Ark has powers. Its not hard to believe. But KOTCS its ridiculous, made for 5 year olds and thats the respect it gets.

Make my imagination believe the story. Don't do something that Tom and Jerry do in the cartoons.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Ok I have one. And first of all I want to add that I love this movie.

How the hell does the T1000 work because it's bothered me for years
Is there a small device inside the liquid? How did they create such an amazing upgrade from the T800 in such a small space of time? I thought Arnold was a new model in the first one.

I have a better question, why is there a Terminator 2 in the first place? In the first one Skynet is defeated, it makes a last ditch effort by sending Arnie back. Kyle goes through and the time machine is smashed. Arnie's defeated, Skynet's defeated, no time machine, that should be it.

 

[CelticPredator]

If KOTCS was so good how come it wasn't thought as an equal to Raiders. These stupid over the top movies will never get respect. Look at all the great movies, oscar winners. Gladiator, TDK, Braveheart, any of them, they all hard that sense of realism in which the viewer can relate to and become linked to that world. Even Raiders. Yes, the Ark has powers. Its not hard to believe. But KOTCS its ridiculous, made for 5 year olds and thats the respect it gets.

Make my imagination believe the story. Don't do something that Tom and Jerry do in the cartoons.

Why? Why is God easier more easier to belive then Aliens? Yes I just went there.

 

[NASEDO]

Thats not true. No one wants Spider-Man to get more "real"...the only reason why Batman needed that realistic side was because of the last movie before Begins.

Same with Casino Royale. If Die Another Day wasnt made the way it was, then Casino Royale wouldnt have been made the way IT was.

You guys are too fast for me. But every new comic book movie wants to follow TDK. Like Superman, and who wants Spiderman to get more real. Spiderman was a great film. I liked all 3. I liked all the Indys except the new one. I never got thru Casino Royale becuase of the over the top stuff, but I'm not a big Bond fan. I liked the Indy films and was let down because of Lucas, thats who I blame.

Everyone has different taste. No ones going to change. I'm glad this article was written because I agree with it. I rather see more realistic movies like TDK, 300 all the good ones. I like Star Wars to, my imagination makes it believeable.

But could KOTCS ever get nominated for an Oscar? Never becuase its stupid. Raiders, LOTR did, and TDK should. When you make a movie you should try to make a good one, I think Lucas lost it all. Del Toro or PJ would of made the new Indy film just as good as Raiders.

 

[CelticPredator]

Also...what Indy film...no action film is EQUAL to Raiders? A film doesnt have to be Raiders to be good.

 

[CelticPredator]

There was nothing over the top in Casino Royale. Nothing.

 

[CelticPredator]

. I rather see more realistic movies like TDK, 300 all the good ones.

OMG stop it!!!

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Realistic movies like 300?

 

[NASEDO]

Why? Why is God easier more easier to belive then Aliens? Yes I just went there.

My imagination can distinguish that. I could believe God has magical power, I could believe life exist else where, in other galaxies. But I can't Believe a human could survive an Atomic Bomb by hiding in a fridge.

 

[NASEDO]

Also...what Indy film...no action film is EQUAL to Raiders? A film doesnt have to be Raiders to be good.

Everything you say is backwards.

 

[DinoLast]

The part with the bomb on the car.
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