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That T-800 above was great in 2009, but it's dated and wonky compared to what they can achieve now. The reuse in this line actually kind of horrible. I don't see how Randy can post that and act proud of it or promote it as something exciting. If you look, even the package looks generic and third rate.

It wouldn't be hard to atleast engineer and tool new swappable hands, but I guess that would mean a little effort to actually sculpt some fists. Really no excuse when he has balljoints. For the past year their Terminator offerings have been nothing special.

Thing that gets me is they'll trash on Mattel, Hasbro and other companies, but when you look at their Terminator line, they're essentially doing the same crap. The only reason these are the best figures is because they're the only figures.

I will nevertheless probably be buying multiples of that T-800 for customs and kitbashes. I've got a few variants that would benefit from wider stance action poses and so these legs will be needed.

You and I have bought enough of this sculpt. Think of how many times over we've bought these, and in multiples. :lol


I can't support this T-800 or the Motorcycle T-1000, it's just insulting. When you break them down, the new legs we waited 7 years to get aren't even that good.
 
They are good for holding extra Hot Toys heads.
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They are good for holding extra Hot Toys heads.

Those actually look really cool. Like articulated head knockers. Don't give NECA any ideas though.

It is...too late..for me DiFabio

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Please, God, no more Vader images! Every time I see him I think of minutia like tunics, shoulder armor, chest boxes, buttons, etc.


But seriously, I know you feel the same way I do. It ain't fun buying these half assed rehashes they do. I keep looking at the NECA Terminator collection I amassed (including all those broken T-1000s that are buried at a garbage dump somewhere) and I'm not thinking too highly of it overall. Got a few gems in there, but man, it's getting harder and harder to look at it fondly or buy something and have fun with it.

The Tech Noir Ultimate was a fun release, but that's about it.
 
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But seriously, I know you feel the same way I do. It ain't fun buying these half assed rehashes they do. I keep looking at the NECA Terminator collection I amassed (including all those broken T-1000s that are buried at a garbage dump somewhere) and I'm not thinking too highly of it overall. Got a few gems in there, but man, it's getting harder and harder to look at it fondly or buy something and have fun with it.

The Tech Noir Ultimate was a fun release, but that's about it.

I have only been picking them up at random over the years, most of which I just left on card, I just picked up the ultimate Police Shootout/tanker version last week and I just put that ultimate Tech Noir in my Pile of Loot tonight

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It's really hard because of that for me too. I already have 2 of the previous version, but this is the cool one :lol

Yeah, you should go for it then :lol

Unless you do a custom job on one of your ultimate figures. Paint the shirt black and paint the gloves to match the face. You always have that option.

If I had two ultimate figures, I'd do that instead of buying this "new" one, but I only have one.
 
Yeah, you go for it then :lol

Unless you do a custom job on one of your ultimate figures. Paint the shirt black and paint the gloves to match the face. You always have that option.
Yeah I'm probably gonna end up doing it and selling the others, will see reviews first.

But who am I kidding, I'll get it, I haven't got Sarah yet :slap, shame on me.
 
Those actually look really cool. Like articulated head knockers. Don't give NECA any ideas though.



Please, God, no more Vader images! Every time I see him I think of minutia like tunics, shoulder armor, chest boxes, buttons, etc.


But seriously, I know you feel the same way I do. It ain't fun buying these half assed rehashes they do. I keep looking at the NECA Terminator collection I amassed (including all those broken T-1000s that are buried at a garbage dump somewhere) and I'm not thinking too highly of it overall. Got a few gems in there, but man, it's getting harder and harder to look at it fondly or buy something and have fun with it.

The Tech Noir Ultimate was a fun release, but that's about it.

I can't say I feel exactly the same. I don't suddenly think everything I have is ***t or anything, in fact my enjoyment of it had a resurgence in recent times what with Hot Toys ceasing to make anything I really care about post-Robocop. If the line had finished years ago and they never started making the ultimates we wouldn't even be talking about this. It's only the fact that there's new stuff (that isn't as new as it could be) and that's mildly frustrating. More frustrating is things that are actual downgrades - like the proportions on both the T-1000 figures. But we did get Sarah Connor from the line coming back and if they make John Connor then I can't say I'll be thinking much about T-1000's with short legs or a lack of alternate hands. That damn endo-arm tube accessory...John Connor...

 
Yeah, but a-dev, other than Ultimate Sarah Connor what new things have they made? :lol

And you don't ever look at your collection and think, "what the hell was I doing with that purchase", even with all the Arnold and T-1000s you bought? Here's an example that isn't "I went back and found my Terminator figure detoriated and fell apart". The Ultimate Tech Noir T-800. Once I got that, I looked back at the older 2011 lower body statue ones I had and just couldn't look at them. The paint jobs on some of those older figures were so bad, even if you went out of your way to pick out the best ones. Then even newer releases are just straight up crap. What's good about the Ultimate T2 T-800? The cartoony paint apps where he has pastel lips and bright hair? The rubbery weapons? The incompatible heads you get? Like I see Randy dogging at people for not understanding what the Ultimate line means when they ask for Dutch and stuff, but looking back at that first Ultimate T-800, I'm not sure they know what it means either. :lol

It's the same stuff we've talked about ad nauseum. I guess what I kind of want to say here is that their Terminator line overall is kinda crap. There's so much potential (they have/had great sculptors on this line). If they just tried a little harder these releases could be so much better. But here we are, trying to muster excitement for another two lame T-800 and T-1000 rehashes. That shouldn't be the case when you have perfect figures like the Evil Dead TV show Ash.

With that said, there are some really nice figure in the line. Looking at my shelf right now, my favorites are,

- original Pescadero T-800 from 2009
- final battle T-800
- my Steel Mill T-800 that I swapped the legs with the Ultimate body for a cyberdyne shootout look
- Sarah Connor
- Ultimate T-1000 (I added the original sauce head from my old broken ones and it looks great)
- Ultimate Tech Noir T-800
- that teapot T-800 I kitbashed


But then I look at all their crappy fragile Endos, that ugly blue Motorcycle T-1000 with the pretzel salt on it, their Kyle Reese, the Ultimate figure leg length issues and all the rehashes and I think, "this line is kinda ****". The bad outweighs the good.

Somebody should list how much reuse NECA has actually gotten from some of these molds and how little new things they've actually produced. I'm sure the list is quite overwhelming. I look at that "new" Rose box T-800 and I just think of how many times they've used that sunglasses head, the regular head, the upper shirt torso with the rubbery jacket and arms along with that shot gun and pistol. I know it's *only* been 8 years, but looking at that thing is like looking at a rerelease Vintage figure at this point. Not to mention that's what we should have gotten back then in 2009 anyway (their video game figures from that time had ball jointed hips, knees and feet).
 
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Miles Dyson!!! Neca is gonna blow him away!! Come on! Come on (awkward puberty voice crack)!! :panic:

:lol :lol :lol

Yeah, but a-dev, other than Ultimate Sarah Connor what new things have they made? :lol

Well sure, nothing else entirely new...yet. Of course if John Connor, T1 Sarah, different versions of Kyle Reese, unmade variants of T1 T-800 ultimately never do get made then you shall be vindicated on this. But in the brave new world where we got a Newt action figure I can't accept that John won't be made, not while they're releasing at least something. Consider Hot Toys, they're not releasing any new classic Terminator stuff currently so it's fair to say they're not suddenly going to drop a T2 John Connor on us. A figure like that has to come out during a hype period, piggybacking on other more marketable figures from the same film. We know well enough to have zero hope of Hot Toys making JC - the line is dead to them. Not so with NECA right now. As long as they're making anything there's a chance.

And you don't ever look at your collection and think, "what the hell was I doing with that purchase", even with all the Arnold and T-1000s you bought?

During my most extreme Hot Toys phase yes I did look at my NECA collection and deem that I had over-purchased. However now it has reversed if anything. It's the Hot Toys stuff that I've looked at and considered trying to sell some of it off. ''Why did I bother setting up that version, without a diorama it's not much to look at and I'm probably never going to have a diorama for it, they're too space consuming and too expensive at 1:6'' etc etc Also, I'm finding the flaws on Hot Toys sculpts less easily excusable than those on NECA figures. With the bigger scale and the capability of being more lifelike it becomes a case of ''so close but so far'' when they get something wrong which is an annoying pr*cktease of a situation.

Here's an example that isn't "I went back and found my Terminator figure detoriated and fell apart". The Ultimate Tech Noir T-800. Once I got that, I looked back at the older 2011 lower body statue ones I had and just couldn't look at them. The paint jobs on some of those older figures were so bad, even if you went out of your way to pick out the best ones. Then even newer releases are just straight up crap.

In a way I don't regret that we didn't get the articulated figures in the first place because instead I get to say I have my pick from both worlds - the statue-esque figures with the more seamless aesthetic or the more fun (but not without drawbacks) articulated ones. Those old T1 legs? Love those. They weren't appropriate for every scene but they were nice beefy legs. I look at the new ones and as well as being shorter they look kinda wimpier aswell. I feel like they narrowed the thighs, even gave him a flat arse on the newer figures - plus the T1s now have a severe case of diaper going on - you can see the balljoint too much, the separation is too obvious. The long jacket of the Tech Noir hides this better than the Ultimate Police Shootout figure. Anyway the main point I'm making there is no, I don't look back on any of the earlier figures as a waste. Those initial T-1000s are probably the closest thing to that - merely for the fact they crumbled to pieces.

But at least in some cases there have been salvageable situations from all the rereleasing. You have a wider choice of paintjobs. Those early T1s did have some terrible paint jobs as you mentioned, but I was able to replace all those heads with superior painted Ultimate versions. Granted that didn't hold true for the Ultimate Uncle Bob (again as you mentioned - bad paint on that one) or the Ultimate T-1000 - I kept using the older heads for those. Oh and I've so far found the guns and accessories from all the ultimates pretty useless, warped beyond repair. Its a bummer for people who're completely relying on the Ultimates but I'm alright Jack because I have the originals too.

And honestly I've gotten a certain satisfaction in gathering the best parts and paintjobs from across the spectrum to assemble my definitive collection.

With that said, there are some really nice figure in the line. Looking at my shelf right now, my favorites are,

- original Pescadero T-800 from 2009
- final battle T-800
- my Steel Mill T-800 that I swapped the legs with the Ultimate body for a cyberdyne shootout look
- Sarah Connor
- Ultimate T-1000 (I added the original sauce head from my old broken ones and it looks great)
- Ultimate Tech Noir T-800
- that teapot T-800 I kitbashed


But then I look at all their crappy fragile Endos, that ugly blue Motorcycle T-1000 with the pretzel salt on it, their Kyle Reese, the Ultimate figure leg length issues and all the rehashes and I think, "this line is kinda ****". The bad outweighs the good.

I also love the original Motorcycle Cop T-1000, Steel Mill T-1000 (particularly if you ever got one with straight stabbing fingers and a decent approximation of the liquid metal chrome for the donut head), I love my Cyberdyne T-800 reloading his McFarlane M79, my Man or Machine figure with my own customised endo-arm, my T-800 on Harley - I know not all of this is entirely stock NECA,

Individual releases could be better, it's true. But if you've been collecting this stuff since the McFarlane movie Maniacs and NECA's cult classics all the way up to present - it is possible to have a pretty damn incredible collection the likes of which we could only dream of as kids when we had to force ourselves to like Kenner's made-up nonsense.

TLDR: I agree with you on individual points - what was/is disappointing, what should have been better, what accessories should have come with this and so on. I dunno, it's just that all that stuff doesn't quite give me the damning outlook you seem to have now for the line as a whole. But I must admit, if they never make John Connor it may sour me a bit. I will be pissed right off, I just won't be able to help it. They made Newt. She's less important in her respective film than JC is in his. Failure to make him now would be a snub to Terminator. The excuse in that eventuality had better not be anything to do with demand, it better be something to do with Edward Furlong or Public Enemy. I refuse to believe he wouldn't sell just the same as Newt.
 
I think we'll see John. They said they're not doing Terminator accessory packs because "Terminator doesn't have anything that fits for an accessory pack", so what else could that Endo arm and glass tube go with.

If they don't do atleast John, that wouldn't make any sense. I could see not doing a "new" Reese or whatever, but John is like the last thing that needs to be done at a time where they're not making anything new. He's got to be happening.

I hope if they do him he looks good. I don't like how poorly painted Newt is. She's so rough that she looks like a scratch built custom.
 
Alright all review is up. Quick thoughts before you guys watch it. I really go into depth in the review since there is no information out there on this new Motorcycle T-1000 Cop. Overall it's a good addition to my Terminator Collection. Yes it's a reuse except the new articulated legs. I do have some minor nitpicks I mention in the video. The second Patrick sculpt mine is painted really orange and looks like he's got a tan, some minor nicks on some of the accessories, warped liquid fingers and he may be a bit shorter then the previous release. I specify all of this in the review but honestly it's my favorite of the 2 even with some of the issues and all accessories can be used with both. Enjoy the review and hope it clarifies some things for you guys if you decide to buy one. I got mine from Neca and paid a bit more. The head paint issue I'm not sure if all of yours will be like that but mine came that way so I guess let us know if yours does. Enjoy!

Ryan
 
Nice review, that was quick.

He is shorter. The reason being is the legs, they're too short and they didn't take into account the lower limbs with the proportions of the original's upper torso. Between the helmet and boots, he should atleast be slightly taller than the original police cop. The older one from 2011 was the same but didn't have articulated hips or ankles. It was the right height and had great, natural proportions though.
 
Nice review, that was quick.

He is shorter. The reason being is the legs, they're too short and they didn't take into account the lower limbs with the proportions of the original's upper torso. Between the helmet and boots, he should atleast be slightly taller than the original police cop. The older one from 2011 was the same but didn't have articulated hips or ankles. It was the right height and had great, natural proportions though.
Thanks man that makes sense too.

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There's so much potential (they have/had great sculptors on this line). If they just tried a little harder these releases could be so much better. But here we are, trying to muster excitement for another two lame T-800 and T-1000 rehashes. That shouldn't be the case when you have perfect figures like the Evil Dead TV show Ash.

The new Ash is very impressive, but even new NECA figures are hit and miss. The Genesis figures don't look that much better than the T2 or T1 figures. Even the likeness of the new Ripley figures are not that great. Maybe a new T2 and T1 line could look a lot better, if we look at Dutch as a possible example, but I don't know that the upgrade or improvement would be so drastic for NECA to bother remaking all those figures that people already own. Not to mention all the Chinese bootleg figures on ebay as another option.
 
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