Organic Food

[Darth Cruel]

I don't get in to trends. And I am not a health food nut. But my wife started buying the organic milk because she was afraid of the hyped affects the steroids in regular milk might have on our young daughters.

Some very interesting observations that I have made.

I find that the "ultra pasturized" organic milk tastes like I have always dreamed that milk should taste. It tastes a lot "cleaner" than regular milk, but still tastes like real milk should.

It lasts forever. Where regular milk usually has freshness dates around 2 weeks beyond the purchase date, the ultra pasturized organic milk has freshness dates 6-8 weeks after the purchase date. And I can tell you from experience...I left some for 6 weeks AFTER THE FRESHNESS DATE...I poured a little out into a glass to see if it was rotten and it poured normally. I smelled it and it still smelled good. I tasted it and it still tasted good...but I threw it away anyway...just in case. It WAS 3 months old.

The milk lead us to try some other organic foods. Some are not worth a crap. Others are very good. We regularly use an organic hamburger from South Dakota that is sold at Costco, here. And that is far better than the regular hamburger.

Anyway...just wanted to share.

 

[pmtz2005]

Organic is the healthiest way to go to bad its so expensive...

 

[wofford29]

The only milk I drink is Mayfield Nurture.

 

[BadMoon]

And I can tell you from experience...I left some for 6 weeks AFTER THE FRESHNESS DATE...I poured a little out into a glass to see if it was rotten and it poured normally. I smelled it and it still smelled good. I tasted it and it still tasted good...but I threw it away anyway...just in case. It WAS 3 months old.

How the hell long does it take for you to go through a milk?

 

[Memnoch]

Once my girlfriend and I are settled we both fully plan on cooking at home and using organic. Safe, healthy, but expensive. I look at it thought as an investment because health problems run like a river in my family and I want to avoid them as much as possible.

 

[Mesa]

Cows, Pigs, Chickens are all part of God's organic creatures, and delicious, especially swine. That's all I need to know.

 

[BadMoon]

Everything causes cancer. Red Meat, the sun, cell phones, the devil, flouride, oil, the taliban.


Give me Mutha FN red meat, potatoes, and beer, I am good!

 

[nash]

Everything causes cancer. Red Meat, the sun, cell phones, the devil, flouride, oil, the taliban.


Give me Mutha FN red meat, potatoes, and beer, I am good!

you forgot lack of sex

 

[automaton]

organic meat is good, but non medicated meat is ideal... search it out!

 

[GrueSam]

It lasts forever. Where regular milk usually has freshness dates around 2 weeks beyond the purchase date, the ultra pasturized organic milk has freshness dates 6-8 weeks after the purchase date. And I can tell you from experience...I left some for 6 weeks AFTER THE FRESHNESS DATE...I poured a little out into a glass to see if it was rotten and it poured normally. I smelled it and it still smelled good. I tasted it and it still tasted good...but I threw it away anyway...just in case. It WAS 3 months old.

Do you not realize how scary your post is?

Milk is *not* supposed to last 3 months. It is a food.


Ultra-pasturized milk is the same crap that comes in little boxes on store shelves that needs no refrigeration. They only put it in the cooler section because they know no one would buy 1/2 gallons of milk that's been sitting on a shelf.

Everything that's good in milk has been completely destroyed by intense heat. That causes the milk to become rancid so... they have to stabilize it and then deoderize it.

That's why it tastes good to you, because it's been massively manipulated and, really, it's actually not even food anymore. It is so devoid of nutrition and enzymes that you cannot use it to make cheese.

Remember- the pasturization does not remove bacteria- it can only cause them to explode. So instead of dealing with bacteria in its naturally intact state, your immune system has to deal with something it was never supposed to come in contact with- bacteriums with their "guts" not only hanging out but cooked at high temperatures.

This is why milk can be blamed for some allergies and sometimes even asthma... some people's immune systems go berserk trying to deal with the inside-out microorganisms.

Although I whole-heartedly applaud your wife's good intentions, I am angry at the fact that most organic milk is ultra-pasturized.
I understand the profit margin being raised by having milk last so long, but at what cost? There's no longer any nutrition nor, especially, any active enzymes in it.

For the record, I am more impressed with dairies that keep their cows outside in the sun and on grass (than whether the milk is organic).
THAT is the way that God (or Mother Nature or whatever you believe) intended for these animals to live. Not in the filthy, crowded conditions that most cows are forced to live. And yes- that even includes most organic dairies.

Pasturization was and still is basically just a cover-up for sick animals fed innappropriately and living in a filthy environment.

Humans have been walking into their backyards and milking their sheep, goats, cows, mares, yaks, camels, reindeer, buffalo... for 10,000 years. No one got sick until we brought the animals into the big cities and fed them crap.

It's sad, really...

https://www.realmilk.com

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

We are pretty much 100% organic in my house

 

[Nacho]

Cows, Pigs, Chickens are all part of God's organic creatures, and delicious, especially swine. That's all I need to know.

Here,Here love the swine

 

[Mesa]

We could speculate all night (and day) about what food is fit to eat. The most popular dissention at the moment is to go vegetarian, followed closely by organic.

When I started to get interested in this issue during college, I looked up some online article about how ketchup was processed, making you never want to eat ketchup again.

I'd rather not know. So I eat a bug or two here and there, maybe a little rat poo, as long as I dont' know about it, and it doesn't give me the runs, I'm good.

I'm already OCD enough with this collecting hobby, don't need to bring my eating habits into that realm as well...

 

[Sick Boy 82]

That's why when I get enough money, I moving back to Montana to live in the mountains and raise everything myself. Buffalo, Venison, Wild Pig and other wild naturally raised meats are the very best thing!!! So damned delicious! And real vegetables you grow yourself taste so much better, trust me!!

But yes, too bad everything organic costs so much. I do like a lot of the stuff at Whole Foods and the Berkeley Bowl, the 2 close organic places close to me. GOD, I love Whole Foods or as it is know "Whole Paycheck"!! Everything is so damned amazing tasting there, but is so ridiculously expensive!!!! And they have an killer cheese section! I love cheese!!!!

Well, if anyone else shops at Whole Foods, let me know what you like there so I can try some new stuff out next time I get paid.

 

[Mesa]

I don't get in to trends. And I am not a health food nut. But my wife started buying the organic milk because she was afraid of the hyped affects the steroids in regular milk might have on our young daughters.

Some very interesting observations that I have made.

I find that the "ultra pasturized" organic milk tastes like I have always dreamed that milk should taste. It tastes a lot "cleaner" than regular milk, but still tastes like real milk should.

It lasts forever. Where regular milk usually has freshness dates around 2 weeks beyond the purchase date, the ultra pasturized organic milk has freshness dates 6-8 weeks after the purchase date. And I can tell you from experience...I left some for 6 weeks AFTER THE FRESHNESS DATE...I poured a little out into a glass to see if it was rotten and it poured normally. I smelled it and it still smelled good. I tasted it and it still tasted good...but I threw it away anyway...just in case. It WAS 3 months old.

The milk lead us to try some other organic foods. Some are not worth a crap. Others are very good. We regularly use an organic hamburger from South Dakota that is sold at Costco, here. And that is far better than the regular hamburger.

Anyway...just wanted to share.

However DC, I do agree to a certain extent about the steroids in milk being a problem. Have you been to the mall on a Friday night lately? HELLO! All I know is, when I was just starting to figure out what a boner was for at the age of 12, 13, 15, whatever, my female classmates certainly didn't "look" like the teenagers that hang out at the mall today. Girls today certainly seem to be maturing at a much younger age, and society is accepting that many dress like hoochie mamma's. I blame Britney Spears and Steroids in milk.

 

[Mesa]

I heard on a Dr. show on AM radio that sometimes, organic food is also picked too early from the vine, so it's not completely ripe, and this is necessary because no preservatives are used, but the fruit/veggie will still ripen on its way t9o the consuemr. Since it's picked early, and begins to ripen/rot sooner, it has less time to develop all the nutrients that it could while still hanging on the vine/tree. So basically your non-organic fruits and vegetable have more nutrition than you more expensive organic ones. Something else to consider or look into.

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Yeah, I hate that. Always getting way over-ripened fruits and vegetables from the BB. The bad thing about organic, is while it may be organic, it has a much larger so-called carbon footprint because of how far it has to travel to most places. I didn't know about the nutrition thing, pretty crazy.

That's why locally grown stuff is preffered by most of my crazy vegie friends. But I got to say, we have some of the very best Farmers Markets up here. I loved the Wired a month or 2 ago (Crazy Orange Cover) that talked all about this stuff. Very informative.

Did you know that it pollutes the air more to build a Prius than a Hummer??!!

 

[RJMacReady16]

I heard on a Dr. show on AM radio that sometimes, organic food is also picked too early from the vine, so it's not completely ripe, and this is necessary because no preservatives are used, but the fruit/veggie will still ripen on its way t9o the consuemr. Since it's picked early, and begins to ripen/rot sooner, it has less time to develop all the nutrients that it could while still hanging on the vine/tree. So basically your non-organic fruits and vegetable have more nutrition than you more expensive organic ones. Something else to consider or look into.

Actually most of the generic produce you buy in the grocery store is picked green and sprayed to ripen later.

Not saying you aren't correct but I certainly wouldn't count on your non-organics carrying your nutritional weight.

btw try some organic mac & cheese sometime.....

Good shtuff...

 

[El Roranous]

I drink organic soy milk- try that sometime.



AS a child I had some problems with acne. My step mom recommended that I stop drinking milk and so I took her advice. Wouldn't you know! My skin seriously improved vastly in the period of just a week! We as adults lack something that we had as children to process such dairy. It's 100% true too- do some research on this subject.

It has also been so translucently apparent how milk companies aggressively market their products. Why should they have to if milk is truly a staple in a healthy person's diet. Don't always believe what is being sold to you.

 

[OSCORP]

Don't drink soy if you're a dude. It rises estrogen levels. ( a little tip you learn when weight lifting)

But yeah we do organic milk for the kid. We still buy regular for ourselves, May make the switch but so expensive. I try to buy organic vegetables when i can.(again way more expensive.)