PHICEN 1/6 M34 Super-Flexible Male Seamless Body

[WhoaItsJBot]

I'm thinking of getting one of these to use for a Punisher figure. Are there any black t-shirts designed to fit this?

 

[asgardianboy]

Hi buddies.

I am thinking of getting some male Phicens. Phicen has already written a chapter of 1/6 History, and they have achieved great things, but their take on PERFECTION (the human body), even though it gets always better with each released, is still a bit lacking in my opinion. At least so it seems to me after reading the several reviews published by Michael Crawford and thinking, thinking, thinking.

Got some questions, though:

1) Do the m32, m33 and m34 have articulated necks? If affirmative, how articulated are those necks?

2) I have read the Michael Crawford reviews, and found skin colours almost impossible to match to any head/feet/hands. Just too rosy. Do you guys agree? (not to mention the nipples)

3) Don't you guyz find the legs are always too unsatisfyingly skinny?

4) Don't you find the forearms too skinny too? And the flares near the wrists, don't they show lack of attention to detail?

5) The underside of the biceps is not very detailed, is it?

6) No single head seems to be small enough to be in scale with M33. Or is M34 just too small??

Thanks to you all for your input.

Regards,
m.

 

[rjszar]

Hi buddies.

I am thinking of getting some male Phicens. Phicen has already written a chapter of 1/6 History, and they have achieved great things, but their take on PERFECTION (the human body), even though it gets always better with each released, is still a bit lacking in my opinion. At least so it seems to me after reading the several reviews published by Michael Crawford and thinking, thinking, thinking.

Got some questions, though:

1) Do the m32, m33 and m34 have articulated necks? If affirmative, how articulated are those necks?

2) I have read the Michael Crawford reviews, and found skin colours almost impossible to match to any head/feet/hands. Just too rosy. Do you guys agree? (not to mention the nipples)

3) Don't you guyz find the legs are always too unsatisfyingly skinny?

4) Don't you find the forearms too skinny too? And the flares near the wrists, don't they show lack of attention to detail?

5) The underside of the biceps is not very detailed, is it?

6) No single head seems to be small enough to be in scale with M33. Or is M34 just too small??

Thanks to you all for your input.

Regards,
m.

Necks are highly articulated.

Body color may be hard to match with heads, but it's not too rosy. It's more tan than anything.

I think some of the other things you mentioned might be nitpicking. These are awesome bodies. If those things bother you, then don't buy them.

 

[a-dev]

I've said from day one that the legs seem too skinny on the M34.

However, I finally have one on the way so I can see in person.

 

[WhoaItsJBot]

They look thin but I'm sticking combat pants on so not too concerner with the legs.

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

I swapped my Dutch over to this thing and it looks badass. Glad the legs are on the thin side cause they are stuffed into the jungle pants

 

[The Skull]

I swapped my Dutch over to this thing and it looks badass. Glad the legs are on the thin side cause they are stuffed into the jungle pants

Post some pics please, Would like to see that!!

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

Post some pics please, Would like to see that!!

It's been so long since I took any pics that I almost forgot how to do it

Here are a few for you buddy that I just took. Not the best and with the flash on cause I have no decent light right now. Hopefully it gets the job done.

 

[The Skull]

That turned out sweet, nice work buddy Thanks for taking the time to post them

Also the skin tone matches nicely too!!

 

[DEATHASYLUM]

That turned out sweet, nice work buddy Thanks for taking the time to post them

Also the skin tone matches nicely too!!

No problemo. I recommend picking one up Pete cause the articulation destroys the Dutch body and it looks great. Just needs a little light dry brush on the front of the neck like what the Dutch body has to make it look a lot better.

 

[asgardianboy]

Hi!
Thanks for your input!

I don't think the skinny leg problem is nitpicking. Other people around here have immediately made the same claim. I've seen DEATHASYLUM's pictures and I do think the legs should be thicker to fill the pants more realistically (if only at the upper end, near the torso... legs normally stick together there because they are thicker there).

The remaining observations can be proved. I don't think they are far-fetched. Of course, they might or might not be deal breakers depending on each one's preferences. For instance, to me, the arms' underside not being defined kills the realism when you pose the figure with raised arms. Just like that. Then again: these are the best bodies available for nude or dressed subjects. That's for sure. Period. I just point out room for improvement.

Another negative I forgot to mention: the MC reviews tell that the wrist posts can detach off the silicon body. Why aren't they one piece with the proverbial steel skeleton? Are they just sticked into it at the wrists? If that was true, it would be a really lame solution, considering just how much hand exchange might take place...

But it is the neck being articulated that I'm most glad to be told about!
Could you please explain what kind of movements allows the neck? Most importantly, can it turn? And being it highly articulated, why can't I find any pictures of Phicen male bodyes with turned or posed necks? Are people too lazy to pose them? Are these necks too difficult to pose? Wouldn't a picture of a turned head improve 100% by just also turning the neck?

Thanks,
m.

 

[rjszar]

Hi!
Thanks for your input!

I don't think the skinny leg problem is nitpicking. Other people around here have immediately made the same claim. I've seen DEATHASYLUM's pictures and I do think the legs should be thicker to fill the pants more realistically (if only at the upper end, near the torso... legs normally stick together there because they are thicker there).

The remaining observations can be proved. I don't think they are far-fetched. Of course, they might or might not be deal breakers depending on each one's preferences. For instance, to me, the arms' underside not being defined kills the realism when you pose the figure with raised arms. Just like that. Then again: these are the best bodies available for nude or dressed subjects. That's for sure. Period. I just point out room for improvement.

Another negative I forgot to mention: the MC reviews tell that the wrist posts can detach off the silicon body. Why aren't they one piece with the proverbial steel skeleton? Are they just sticked into it at the wrists? If that was true, it would be a really lame solution, considering just how much hand exchange might take place...

But it is the neck being articulated that I'm most glad to be told about!
Could you please explain what kind of movements allows the neck? Most importantly, can it turn? And being it highly articulated, why can't I find any pictures of Phicen male bodyes with turned or posed necks? Are people too lazy to pose them? Are these necks too difficult to pose? Wouldn't a picture of a turned head improve 100% by just also turning the neck?

Thanks,
m.

I have the M30, M33 and M34. These are not perfect representations of the human body, but how many perfect human bodies are there out there? Some of the observations you quoted are unfounded.

The neck swivels in all directions. It is most limited in the forward direction though.



The internal skeleton is made from narrow rods. There is a ball and socket joint at the end for the wrists. You want them to be able to swivel, right? The only time I have a problem with them popping out is when I try to remove hands. That is a problem in any figure though. Plastic pegs can snap. Heating with a hair dryer before removing or installing is best.

The bunching at the wrist is a matter of laziness on the part of the person that owns the figure. As you can see from this picture, M33, the right wrist (left side of picture) looks fine, whereas the left wrist looks bunched. Just pull the skin back up the arm a little to fix. You can also see in this picture that the legs are not too skinny. A fit person shouldn't have his thighs rubbing together. The M30 has enormous thighs, so the skinny leg comment just doesn't fly. The M34 it could be argued has skinny thighs (based on Arnold's competition form), but you do have to be able to put pants on these. People that have the M34 in hand (even those that initially complained), love it. Looks even better in hand.


I don't know what to say about the underside of the biceps. I'm assuming you mean the triceps. They have definition. What more is there?

 

[WhoaItsJBot]

Anyone have a pair of those white height extenders for for the M34 for sale?

 

[Stephen Gentile]

Here's a custom Conan project I just upgraded with the Phicen M34. Only drawback is the flat biceps that look too thin from some angles when you raise the arms away from the body. Otherwise, it's an amazing 1/6th figure body. I plan on making an War Paint Conan from the Orgy scene in the first movie using the M34 body. Anybody recommend any paints that would adhere well on the silicon body?

 

[asgardianboy]

Hey, thanks for the revealing info...!!



On your picture of the wrists, actually.... both look fine to me! I am instead complaining about flares like this one:

https://www.mwctoys.com/images_gst/review_M34_4.jpg


Thanks for making clear that problem can be solved, anyway!



Regarding the articulated neck: GREAT!! Thanks!!! Last question: I guess the neck can't be turned without risking damage to the skin, right...?



Regarding wrist peg popping off: I expected any connectors sticking out of the skinlayer to be integral parts of the internal steel skeleton, not flimsy addons, sitcked into the silicon. That solution spells damage in the long run, or at least unescapable annoyance when switching hands.



Regarding rubbing thighs: try to imagine the thighs on the pictures below, once they come together:

https://cdn.collider.com/wp-content...rbarian-arnold-schwarzenegger-movie-image.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/01/article-2056234-0EA05C9A00000578-277_306x668.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/03/4b/33/034b3314dea96d38e224066c189811b9.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d5/25/42/d52542ddf05f098827f0e40515b5b23f.jpg


Yep. They'll rub.
Don't believe it yet? OK. Here you are:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f4/78/fd/f478fd8686ee620adeef9a3eb93a8250.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/bMkAAMXQY8JRhC~2/s-l300.jpg

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjM2/z/gNYAAMXQI5tRhC35/$T2eC16R,!yEE9s5jFRDmBRhC343QZ!~~60_35.JPG



I understand pants must be able to be put on any figure's legs (well, not always for a seamless body, whose main point is almost-nude subject matter), BUT properly designed, almost-rubbing, thicker thighs would look better, clothed or not. And if you look at this:

https://www.mwctoys.com/images_gst/review_M34_14.jpg

...you'll see there is still a lot of space for more meat under those crotches.



Regarding the arms' undersides, please have a look at the pictures below

https://www.mwctoys.com/images_gst/review_phicen33_1.jpg

https://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=339000&d=1493527835


What you see in those pics is what I called "not detailed", especially when compared with the following pictures:

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/21/b6/e2/21b6e2aec222686ca3fe4d2169359f7d.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/54/3d/d0/543dd0df66c996d3fe69cf020f80d96f.jpg



Detailing the underside won't hurt articulation (or maybe, but it will look DAMN COOLER AND MORE REALISTIC).


Regards,
m.

I have the M30, M33 and M34. These are not perfect representations of the human body, but how many perfect human bodies are there out there? Some of the observations you quoted are unfounded.

The neck swivels in all directions. It is most limited in the forward direction though.
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The internal skeleton is made from narrow rods. There is a ball and socket joint at the end for the wrists. You want them to be able to swivel, right? The only time I have a problem with them popping out is when I try to remove hands. That is a problem in any figure though. Plastic pegs can snap. Heating with a hair dryer before removing or installing is best.

The bunching at the wrist is a matter of laziness on the part of the person that owns the figure. As you can see from this picture, M33, the right wrist (left side of picture) looks fine, whereas the left wrist looks bunched. Just pull the skin back up the arm a little to fix. You can also see in this picture that the legs are not too skinny. A fit person shouldn't have his thighs rubbing together. The M30 has enormous thighs, so the skinny leg comment just doesn't fly. The M34 it could be argued has skinny thighs (based on Arnold's competition form), but you do have to be able to put pants on these. People that have the M34 in hand (even those that initially complained), love it. Looks even better in hand.
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I don't know what to say about the underside of the biceps. I'm assuming you mean the triceps. They have definition. What more is there?

 

[asgardianboy]

Great custom, buddy.

There are several sculpt problems to this otherwise BEST EVER body, that become clear thanks to your pictures:

- As you point out, arms become tiny once they "detach" of the torso (1st and 2nd pics). WHY? From other angles, arms look huge... I can't really say... Maybe wrong posing / camera angle?

- If you raise the arms, normally dorsal muscles deploy, especially on a body builder. In this body that effect is too weak, as shown in your 1st and 2nd pics. I know big dorsals would hinder articulation, but if these Phicen bodies are so well articulated, what about hitting some other, more aesthetically pleasing compromise?

- In your 1st and 2nd pics, little detailing on the arms' underside is evident.

- In your 2nd pic, torso-legs unbalance is evident.

- In your 4th pic, head-body unbalance is evident: heads seem too big on these bodies, maybe body is TOO SMALL FOR 1/6 PARTIALLY NUDE SUBJECT MATTER.

- Tiny deltoid muscled when compared to arms. Also visible here:

https://www.mwctoys.com/images_gst/review_M34_14.jpg

Just check this:

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/images/2015/arnold-blueprint-cut-vision-graphics-2.jpg

https://blindgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/arnold-schwarzenegger-2.jpg




Some remarks about your figure:

- How come the Phicen body, which has damn wide shoulders (https://www.mwctoys.com/images_gst/review_M34_14.jpg) in your pics seems to have tiny shoulders? Is it because of the noggin being too big? Or the vest being too ample?

- You matched the skin colour! Amazing! How did you do it?


Thanks!!

Regards,
m.

 

[WhoaItsJBot]

Lol jesus.

 

[rjszar]

I think you need to stay away from the Phicen bodies. Clearly you think these are intricately detailed statues.

thighs rubbing


thighs not rubbing


BTW neck can be turned without damaging the skin as with most other parts of the body.

 

[Stephen Gentile]

Thanks for your comments asgardianboy. I think the Hot Toys Commando head I used is too big for the Phicen M34 body. As for the weird flat upper arms that become noticeable when you extend them away from the body, that's just the nature of the figure. The body looks best in it's sculpted position, with the arms down. It's really just an anatomically-correct Gumby when you get down to it.

 

[Jbeltram4]

Just wondering for those of you who did; what'd you use to paint this bodies? I asked in custom how to forums for rubber bodies and pastels were the answer. Just wondering if that's work here as well. Have two of thes e but don't want to ruin them. I've seen silicone paints, but before I go and buy was hoping I could use what I already have. Thanks.