Pop Culture Shock GENERAL URSUS on Horseback 1:4 Scale Statue

[TheWhatWhatNow]

Spoke to Jerry at NYCC about this. He said only about 90 or so were made. So, whoever ordered it he chose to honor the purchase. He said he is losing a lot of money on each one for selling so few of them. So he chose to just close out the run.
I had ordered one and now anyone else that ordered one Really got a What will be a Very Desirable POTA Treasure in the future!

 

[Rocky1976]

Spoke to Jerry at NYCC about this. He said only about 90 or so were made. So, whoever ordered it he chose to honor the purchase. He said he is losing a lot of money on each one for selling so few of them. So he chose to just close out the run.
I had ordered one and now anyone else that ordered one Really got a What will be a Very Desirable POTA Treasure in the future!

If he's losing a lot of money by only making around 100 why didn't he just make 300? I think the problem is he is depending on preorders to determine the demand, a lot of collectors including me, don't like to pay that much money up front and have to wait over a year after paying to get the statue, I was going to wait to see in hand photos and if I liked it I was going to purchase one. The fact that he's shutting it down after only making so few is really sad. I really believe that a 300 edition would have sold out easily, the huge up front payment is what killed it imo.

 

[dao2]

Because if you didn't PO even 100 the chances are of selling 200% more after release is basically non-existent and a HUGE waste of money.

 

[TheWhatWhatNow]

Jerry once told me he still has a few hundred Darkstalkers Statue's. I think he learned his lesson.
What Dao2 said is absolutely correct. If less than a 100 people pre-ordered it. You can't expect to sell another 200 when it come's out. And it definitely wouldn't have.
Most statue companies do pre-order's that take a year or more in advance. If you don't like to pre-order that much in advance you'll end up missing out on a lot of good pieces.

 

[DerekDeS]

The PO on this was only open for a very short time. I was very surprised that it was closed when I went to order one. They would have sold more if the PO was left open. If 300 is stated as the edition size, 300 should be made. Anyway... congrats to those getting this, I regret missing out.

 

[dao2]

The PO on this was only open for a very short time. I was very surprised that it was closed when I went to order one. They would have sold more if the PO was left open. If 300 is stated as the edition size, 300 should be made. Anyway... congrats to those getting this, I regret missing out.

Just cause they list 300 doesn't mean that'll be it, this is far from the first time a company has done that ;p It's just simple business, they put a lot of money down for it. Anyone who ordered this is incredibly lucky it's being made at all.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

The PO on this was only open for a very short time. I was very surprised that it was closed when I went to order one. They would have sold more if the PO was left open. If 300 is stated as the edition size, 300 should be made. Anyway... congrats to those getting this, I regret missing out.

They probably wouldn't have sold the rest of the ES with that price tag

 

[Derwin]

I got on the order list a long time ago, but can't see my order in my account on their website.

Does anybody know when they are going to be shipping these statues to people who were lucky enough to get on the order list?

 

[dao2]

I got on the order list a long time ago, but can't see my order in my account on their website.

Does anybody know when they are going to be shipping these statues to people who were lucky enough to get on the order list?

Sometime next year, check the list on the newsletter but expect it to be pushed back. Website account doesn't get updated with orders.

 

[HODLr]

Bad news. I just received the following email -

Dear Collector and Planet of the Apes fan,

It is with a heavy heart that we must regrettably cancel the General Ursus Statue.

The factories in China have a 200 piece minimum order and currently, even after aggressive marketing on our part, our orders for this item totals less than 50 pieces.

We simply cannot manufacture 200 pieces with that few orders.

It goes without saying that we will issue you a full refund or credit (your choice) and our deep apologies.

Please email Customer Service at [email protected] and let us know if you want the Paypal refund, or if you want us to apply your payments to another statue you may have on order with us.

Thank you and again, very sorry for this event.

 

[Centurion]

Sorry to hear this guys. This was an awesome piece. There's at least one, however. Hmmmm.....

 

[Twocollector]

****ttttttttttttt ***kkkkkkkk noooooo wayyyyyyyyyy


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[Twocollector]

How much was deposit again. I've forgotten


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[dao2]

Jesus when I said I didn't expect this to sell well and be the end of the PoTA line I didn't expect it to only sell 50 units! Sorry fans I know all to well the pain cause my favorite **** doesn't get the time of day for this sort of thing... but I guess that's better then having it offered then taken away from you ><

Deposit is usually like $100 or something right? Maybe 150? Fully pay was something like $760 though I think.

 

[DerekDeS]

I would really like to know what the aggressive marketing was. Was it at SDCC? It was available for PO on their website less than 2 months! When I went to order one it was already gone.

 

[dao2]

I would really like to know what the aggressive marketing was. Was it at SDCC? It was available for PO on their website less than 2 months! When I went to order one it was already gone.

It was at a show or two, which I don't remember. They pumped out to their normal news channels and highlighted it on their facebook, instagram, newsletter and showed a bunch of in progress pictures so it basically got the regular treatment + a little extra. It's not like they're gonna have commercials for it

And it wasn't up for PO because they couldn't take orders anymore. If it was something that was selling well then sure they could have left it up, but as you can tell from the numbers sales were slow and from what it looks like guaranteed that they were basically non-existent after PO. Normally this would have been instant cancellation but Jerry seemed to want this one to go through despite the fact that they would be taking a loss on it, so he closed the ES (producing even more would have been even more loss, and it clearly wasn't selling, I mean ffs 50) and took it to the factories.

Now you might say "oh why now? it's been so long". That's probably because it probably hasn't been in production yet, basically time came around or at least close for the factory to start producing these and then they looked at the order and said "**** this, there's no money in it" and moved onto the next more profitable one. Now you might ask well why is it so long for production to start? Because they basically have to get in line.

Now in an ideal world they could get in line early before they put it up for PO and then the time to production after PO would be instant and we'd get our **** quick. However the big draw back is that you're on the hook for getting them produced, so when PO comes and it does great you're golden cause you've sold through the ES, or at least most of it. But you have to be confident you're gonna sell your ****, like the Sony guys are doing with their statues.

If Jerry had gone ahead and ordered the 350 early he could quite easily be out 150 grand, and while PCS might be big enough to take that hit and still survive it would at the very least be a big part of their operating budget. It would likely bankrupt a company like ARH, cause these guys that take money ahead of time essentially go from statue to statue in terms of budget.

Long story short, Jerry tried to get this one through but even me, not exactly being master expert of this industry, and a lot of others guessed that this was doomed to fail due to the fact that there was no interest. v0v

 

[wanderlai]

I hate to hear it but I'm not really surprised. The fans of the classic PotA movies are mostly older and in no way going to fork the money over for a $800 statue.

 

[Rocky1976]

I hate to hear it but I'm not really surprised. The fans of the classic PotA movies are mostly older and in no way going to fork the money over for a $800 statue.

I agree, I think the statue wasn't marketed properly, if it was advertised on Sideshow and other sites maybe more collectors would have had interest, the large deposit or pay in full was way to high, and than you have to include huge shipping charges and customs fees for international collectors which would bring this statue to almost $1,200+ for those collectors. I still believe that a run of 200 statues would have sold out, but I do understand not taking a chance and just canceling the statue.

 

[TheWhatWhatNow]

You're Never gonna get a Better Looking POTA Statue than this!
If these couldn't sell, no one is ever gonna roll the dice again on an Apes line.

 

[dao2]

I agree, I think the statue wasn't marketed properly, if it was advertised on Sideshow and other sites maybe more collectors would have had interest, the large deposit or pay in full was way to high, and than you have to include huge shipping charges and customs fees for international collectors which would bring this statue to almost $1,200+ for those collectors. I still believe that a run of 200 statues would have sold out, but I do understand not taking a chance and just canceling the statue.

All their other statues sell out without that. The deposit was like $100 I imagine, not too high and their cheaper statues have the same thing and sell out. As for internationally Jerry said no retailers wanted it because they said it would not sell. If they only had orders for 50 they would not sell 200. It just wouldn't happen. They'd have to be severely discounted and sitting in their warehouse for years. It would be a giant waste of money, money that smaller companies can't afford. Sorry but what you're saying just isn't realistic... It may have sold a bit better with SS, but doubtful 200.