Statue Prime 1 Studio - Optimus Prime

[jinkazama]

I have not agreed more with a comment on this forum. The franchise needs someone new at the helm, badly.

I think it was confirmed Michael Bay isn't returning to direct Transformers 5.

 

[dino76m]

I am about 75 percent about to cancel this piece,when I saw it previewed I was like most and was very impressed,however after a few things taken place I am seriously reconsidering ordering anymore of there pieces.I ordered Megatron from Sideshow and was very happy with it,even though there were some qc issues,but there fake sell out really had me rethinking that even with the lowest edition size in the series this piece is still available through them,and we all saw a couple others score some real good deals on the secondary market.Then came Prime and I was like cool this piece is sweet but then the edition size was announced and I was like wow that is quite a bit of OP,2000 regulars and an ex of 500 which doesn't have that big of a difference from the regular version got me thinking.Then I seen what the es was for Grimlock and OP at 1750 which is just comical to me,along with the TBD for the regular Grimlock which is all the info I need to know that is becoming a bad sign.I mean if they cant even sell out the famous leader of the decepticons with the lowest es,how the hell are they gonna sell the others with a lot more edition sizes.These pieces aren't selling that well overseas either if sideshow can keep restocking them,even Sideshow doesn't make 2000 pieces for there 2K pieces...I will lose my nrd and that's fine

The ES might be high but i doubt all 2000 of OP regular will be made at the same time , they will be made according to order, so the companys really doesnt make any loss, once they reach the 2000 es they will shut down the production,
so for those thinking of making a fast buck by flipping it can keep their money in their pockets , those who dont care about the returns can order it,
Im thankful these arent selling out fast TBH,, i have got only Prime on order, if i like it ill get Megatron and Bumble bee probably, so them not still selling out works in my favour and also for the collectors who really want one in their collection and not looking at an investment, the company and fans win both

 

[dino76m]

Because when you collect this hobby you need to spend a lot money, not everyone make $100k every year, and when you are not rich and buying statue over 100 pieces, you have to selling some to get some, and when you sell you don't want to lose money, got it ?

so ur basically saying ur collecting by flipping in return and u really dont care about anything else other than if it goes up in value, if u just stick to buying what u really like , u wouldnt need to sell to collect

 

[ambasah]

If anyone lives in the greater Toronto area and is interested in a regular for a great price, shoot me a pm.

 

[Asdf]

I have not agreed more with a comment on this forum. The franchise needs someone new at the helm, badly.

Yup, the story line is pretty dead. They need reboot it.

 

[NASEDO]

so ur basically saying ur collecting by flipping in return and u really dont care about anything else other than if it goes up in value, if u just stick to buying what u really like , u wouldnt need to sell to collect

I need to sell to collect. I been flipping and recycling my collection forever. Though this isn't the piece to go in with the mindset of flipping. This will probably go down in the future if all 2000 get made. But I doubt they'll make them all. Either way its a must have piece for serious collectors. Im still on the fence. I may get this or the gimlock with optimus. One or the other.

 

[Mamba]

I am about 75 percent about to cancel this piece,when I saw it previewed I was like most and was very impressed,however after a few things taken place I am seriously reconsidering ordering anymore of there pieces.I ordered Megatron from Sideshow and was very happy with it,even though there were some qc issues,but there fake sell out really had me rethinking that even with the lowest edition size in the series this piece is still available through them,and we all saw a couple others score some real good deals on the secondary market.Then came Prime and I was like cool this piece is sweet but then the edition size was announced and I was like wow that is quite a bit of OP,2000 regulars and an ex of 500 which doesn't have that big of a difference from the regular version got me thinking.Then I seen what the es was for Grimlock and OP at 1750 which is just comical to me,along with the TBD for the regular Grimlock which is all the info I need to know that is becoming a bad sign.I mean if they cant even sell out the famous leader of the decepticons with the lowest es,how the hell are they gonna sell the others with a lot more edition sizes.These pieces aren't selling that well overseas either if sideshow can keep restocking them,even Sideshow doesn't make 2000 pieces for there 2K pieces...I will lose my nrd and that's fine

I am thinking the same thing...so did you cancel yours?

I saw this statue at SDCC this year, absolutely amazing but for $2,300 plus shipping is too small (I personally rather spend $2k on Doom LSF which is much bigger and has more presence), yes the detail is awesome but the price is just too expensive especially with 2500 ES. It will take a long time for them to sell 2000 regulars.

I kind of regret ordering it, but I already paid flex payments for a few months, if I can cancel not only I lost NRD, I also will pay the cancellation fee. I guess worst case I could just return it if I am not satisfied when I get him. Sideshow has 30 days return policy, I will just pay the shipping costs which I am hoping it will be less than the NRD. But who knows maybe I will change my mind and decide to keep him when I get him in hand.

Btw I can't sell my megaton statue for $1850 plus shipping, not sure how much lower I should go to sell it

 

[Monty]

I am thinking the same thing...so did you cancel yours?

I saw this statue at SDCC this year, absolutely amazing but for $2,300 plus shipping is too small (I personally rather spend $2k on Doom LSF which is much bigger and has more presence), yes the detail is awesome but the price is just too expensive especially with 2500 ES. It will take a long time for them to sell 2000 regulars.

I kind of regret ordering it, but I already paid flex payments for a few months, if I can cancel not only I lost NRD, I also will pay the cancellation fee. I guess worst case I could just return it if I am not satisfied when I get him. Sideshow has 30 days return policy, I will just pay the shipping costs which I am hoping it will be less than the NRD. But who knows maybe I will change my mind and decide to keep him when I get him in hand.

Btw I can't sell my megaton statue for $1850 plus shipping, not sure how much lower I should go to sell it

Yes I pulled the trigger and canceled this the other day,it wasn't easy eating the nrd that is for sure,but the thought of canceling this item grew more and more as time went on,and things unfolded with Prime 1

I completely agree that this an amazing piece,i was quite taken by it upon the debut of it.But the points you make,I also share,along with some of my closest friends,the price is a bit high for piece that seems a bit on the small side.The price is higher than Megatron,the statue itself is smaller than Megatron,and the edition size is much bigger than Megatron,I mean if that's not mixed signals by a company than I don't know what is...now had the piece been the same price as Megatron,maybe then,but shouldn't the prices be cheaper than Megatron if they are making so many more of him.I mean from a serious collectors point of view,how could a smaller piece,with a much bigger edition size be more expensive,i mean I just don't get it.Now I know some ppl will say well you get a lot of weapon choices with OP unlike Megatron,and that is a valid point,however its not like those weapons would be that much more costly if they are making so many more OP's to begin with,but none of the weapons even come close to the sheer size and weight of Megatron canon hand,so both kinda balance each other out.It will take this company a long time to sell 2000 units,even if China is buying a lot of them,but even if China is buying most of them,that has nothing to do with us in the western hemisphere,its not like we can ship to china should we decide to sell him down the road,sure its doable but who in there right mind is gonna pay shipping from North America when they can just get it somewhere else in Asia for far less,plus the risks of shipping this item overseas as a private collector...forget about it.


I also kind of regret ordering it,only because the edition size of the regular version was not disclosed when the EX went up for preorder,I thought ok this is a great stunning piece with only 500 EX's,surely they wont be making more than 1000 regulars at these price tags,along with the knowledge of Megatrons edition size,but nope we got 2000 dropped on us and at that time I was like wow that is a lot of regular versions,and the only difference between the two versions is a small shotgun,this cant be good.At least you live in the U.S where you have the option to send it back and not get hosed in the process,but I am not in the U.S and I do not want to deal with the nonsense that comes with paying,shipping,dealing with customs and then sending it back while trying to retrieve my duty chagres from the gov't.Also I noticed in some pictures he looks really good,and then in others he looks nice but not as good as the ones taken with better camera's so I often think what will I end up getting.I was disappointed with the QC with my Megatron,I had to buy two in order for me to piece up one that was in good shape.I can tell you that the paint job is not as nice as the proto,plus they removed some major rust parts that were on the proto,and made it more greyish/silver.I also had problems having the canon gun sit in his arm because the crap job in the peg hole,first off it was poorly built as the hole was larger and not as flush as it should be to allow the canon gun to sit in properly and not fall out.The peghole looked like it had no shape to slot the canon gun in properly,it just looked sloppy and messy and loose.I knew mine was not gonna sit in properly so I never left the canon gun in it,i could see immediately that if I did it would fall and break,and not only have I seen this happen to a friend of mine,but i also read on the other forum that others who had also dealt with this issue.Seems like that is a Sideshow problem in the sense that some get good ones,while others get bad ones,and at these prices no one should have to play Russian roullete upon what they will get.Also if you look at the proto,the hands of Megatron don't rub against his body,or sit side to the side of it like the production pieces do which is another problem because it shouldn't do that,it looks dumb.One of my eyes in the Megatron head was not as bright as the other,or there was some of sort of issue when it was assembled so the lighting wasn't proper.I still love my Megatron,overall he looks bad ass,but I was hoping that because Prime 1 is a Japanese company,and they charge quite a bit for there work,that they would of kept it in house and built it in Japan,and not in China.I don't want to sound disrespectful but lets face it some of the factories in China cannot execute the final product to the same standard as an American or Japanese prototype through no fault of there own.I really don't want to get my Prime and just be unhappy like I was with the b.s I dealt with Megatron,and I have less and less faith with the factories in China being able to replicate the paint apps,because these companies make these beautiful sculpts and then they get a dull or lackluster paint job applied to them which imo just kills the piece,the paint makes it or breaks it


In todays collecting world we as collectors have way too much to choose from,things move very fast and feelings towards a piece can change rapidly.I already know its possible I will sell almost any of my pieces to fund other ones,but you,me and others are taking big losses trying to sell Megatron and that's with the lowest es in the line,and that's not right either.A friend of mine was selling his for 1.5k and he nobody pm him,or even contact him for it....that's a bit shocking.These aren't iconic G1 TF's so the market for them are gonna be smaller,less ppl gravitate towards them because its a Michael Bay TF...so that's needs to be considered.I would much rather now go for PCS 1/3 stuff,its literally 1/3 the cost,and 75 percent less pieces being made.I know it may not be fair to compare what PCS makes to what Prime 1 makes due to the popularity of each license,but I am growing tired of companies caring less and less about edition sizes because of there business practices.As prices get higher in this hobby,more ppl are getting out,so how can more and more pieces have bigger and bigger edition sizes.After I seen those guys on this site who scored a Megatron EX to boot for like 500 bucks and a couple other collectors in my area score a regular version for 1k,i knew this line was messed up because I have never seen anything like it in my 15 years in the hobby.My advice to anyone who wants any of Prime 1 pieces is just wait till they ship out because its almost certain you will be able to find one for less than retail and probably a lot less than that,also considering ex's are barely exclusive anymore with what they give you.Best of luck with your sale,but I think yours will be hanging around your place for a while especially since you can order one from Sideshow anytime and accumulate reward points and deal with them if anything goes wrong

 

[CrAZyVEgAsBoY]

so ur basically saying ur collecting by flipping in return and u really dont care about anything else other than if it goes up in value, if u just stick to buying what u really like , u wouldnt need to sell to collect

exactly, buy what you love/want to keep, if it goes up great and if one day you need/want to sell it cool but you should buy these statues in an attempt to make money. Lol there are better ways to make money.

 

[Mamba]

I agree Monty, the price should have been lowered especially with 2500 ES. I also would rather buy PCS statues, got my order for 1/3 scorpion statue for $665 and only has 250 ES, looking forward to order 1/3 Akuma (350 ES). Those 2 statues will only cost me +/- $1400, which is $900 less than Prime1 OP. And if for some reasons I need to sell them, I have more confident the price will hold (most likely will go up).

I don't sell statues trying to make money for living (there are many better ways to make money). I sold many of my statues in the past because I have to sell for whatever reasons (mostly due to space and change preference because there are newer statues that are better), some I gained $ some I lost $, but I would prefer to gain $ lol. I am glad PCS and XM Studio understand the importance of small/reasonable ES for collectors. I don't mind paying more money as long as the ES is reasonable/small.

I made a mistake, I ordered many statues that I should have not ordered, I learned my mistake, I am becoming more selective now.

 

[Monty]

I am with you in all accounts,PCS is getting it right on the money.Dont get me wrong that company has there issues but from a collectability point of view they got the most important part right,the edition size and the price.I don't sell statues to make a profit,that is just ridiculous imo,but I do sell statues to fund new ones.If you have been collecting for a long time you know your taste changes from one license to the next,or from one scale to the next,or from one company to another,that is just part of it.And for the record I am totally okay and fully understand taking losses,but there is a line of where losses can be maintained,and that line is so far crossed imo that something needs to change.I have never taken a big loss on any of PCS's items but 100 percent I have lost thousands over the years with Sideshow and Bowens,but that is fine because that is part of it,and the retail costs were never that high to begin with,but this is a dangerous game when you start to lose almost a thousand on one piece.I am like you I would gladly pay more to secure a smaller es,but that's not the case with this company,so what can we do but learn for our mistakes...anyways I wanted to reply to your post but at the same time I do not want to derail this thread by sounding like I am negative towards P1,so I will move on,but last but not least I can see why you and I share the same thought process because I have seen your collection thread and we both have the same tastes and pieces.You cant expect some people to understand when they don't spend nearly as much as others do in this hobby

 

[ambasah]

I wasn't too impressed with Megatron and passed on him. This, to me, is on an entirely different level.

As for the price tag, very few pieces maintain their value at this level of collecting. Ask anyone trying to sell the LSF wolverine or darth maul. At least optimus has an edition size, and I would suggest a small one (for the exclusive) given the popularity of the transformers line.

In the end, buy what really speaks to you at a price you think is reasonable.

 

[Asdf]

I wasn't too impressed with Megatron and passed on him. This, to me, is on an entirely different level.

As for the price tag, very few pieces maintain their value at this level of collecting. Ask anyone trying to sell the LSF wolverine or darth maul. At least optimus has an edition size, and I would suggest a small one (for the exclusive) given the popularity of the transformers line.

In the end, buy what really speaks to you at a price you think is reasonable.

True. With this price tag, we are likely to sell at lost. So is all the LSF line.

 

[Magneticsoul]

I think SS LSF has its own problem. 1) no edition size and 2) endless QC problem (come on SS, its $2k statue), so it is unfair to compare based on the price only. As for the price, yes it is very expensive but i'm glad i didnt pay $1800 for SS optimus last year. To get this i have to trim down my collection and limit my SS PO (only 2 this year) which i dont mind at all because i only have the very best selected statue (according to my taste) now. I think an expensive statue like this will force us to be more discipline in collecting statue, to buy what you really like. If you have that in mind, you dont have to think about the price in the secondary market at all. Need to pass grimlock but cant wait for Bumblebee.

cheers

 

[Asdf]

Easier said than done. We all want more statues, that's the problem with us statues addict. We need Rehab.

 

[Magneticsoul]

Just tell your wive the value of your collection. You will get your rehab

Easier said than done. We all want more statues, that's the problem with us statues addict. We need Rehab.

 

[RobertoBagg10]

Easier said than done. We all want more statues, that's the problem with us statues addict. We need Rehab.

Just tell your wive the value of your collection. You will get your rehab

nice one! and so true...

my wife has paid half for 2 of my LSFs and she thinks she was paying for the whole thing!!!

 

[Exar Kun]

I am going to keep this OP as I am an Optimus prime fan. Despite the fact that TF is not LOTR, I love thos TF movie design and i do not intend to sell it as I did with my Cinemquette collection, Hot Toys, Attakus star wars, in the past.

 

[Asdf]

nice one! and so true...

my wife has paid half for 2 of my LSFs and she thinks she was paying for the whole thing!!!

My wife would crucify me already

 

[dino76m]

when u buy something that u really want but need to sell down the road for watever reasons, selling at a lose might not really hurt, cos u njoyed it while it was with u, it is thos impulsive buys or extras which u bought thinking it will go up in value which really hurt when they go down in value, jus try to order what u really want and im sure it wont hurt that bad when u have to sell it