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Asking for new vests because of the tailoring variations is going too far. Rainman is going to forever ignore our requests of getting revisions done for future projects if we push him on this guys. Besides this is a Yunsil issue. Also if Lee continues to get bombarded with these types of requests it's going to hurt people who have serious item defects/damages from getting their issues resolved. It will create serious problems for when your really going to need a fix or exchange in the future if these types of complaints carry on.

If we're going to want new vests with a matching collar pattern than let's do it right since the vest color isn't accurate anyway.


Let's get a list going for a round of vests from Yunsil with an emphasis on the collar ovals AND the appropriate film accurate colors which I believe is a pale green for the vest and Salmon color for ovals. It will cost us a bit more but it will be 100% accurate and I'm sure Lee will allow us to ask Yunsil for this if it's going to save him the stress of dealing with this issue.

Did you grab a figure or 2, Turbo?
 
Ummmm yeah - I paid Rainman If I recall. Not Yunsil...

I'm surprised you of all people are being so hard up about this, especially considering you have a working relationship with Yunsil and can actually help to get somthing like this going. Infact I'm inclined to say that if Yunsil wasn't dealing with all of your ongoing projects to begin with then Maybe, just maybe she wouldn't have rushed the production on these vests.
Did you grab a figure or 2, Turbo?

Yes one for me and one for your mo.........

You've got Yunsils contact, why don't you get somthing going Marlin? I mean isn't that what you pretty much only do anyways Marlindesign?.... since you don't paint or sculpt or tailor anything anyways :lol :dunno
 
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I'm surprised you of all people are being hard up about this. Especially when you have a working relationship with Yunsil and can actually help to get somthing like this going.

I don't like the fact that you pay top dollar for a custom figure, only to then spend further hundreds on fixing up the 'defects'. I am sure Rainman would want his releases to be the best they can be, rather than knowing they we are all having to fix things to the standard they should of been...
 
Isn't it somewhat ironic (maybe not the best way to describe it) that Yunsil does the clothes for RM figures and because its not up to par for what we expect from a "high end" figure, we are going back to none other than Yunsil to get the clothes done correctly. This is almost like an indirect / unintentional scam (I know that is NOT what RM or Yunsil set out to do, but I really think if there are major flaws that the community has pointed out, it should have been incorporated into the final product).

Disclaimer: I don't know what is accurate and I am not a "accuracy freak" so I could care less about the ovals been off. I would be slightly annoyed if mine had a serious defect, but when everyone's hat is not brown enough I actually don't mind as much. So yah, even if you guys commission a better vest, I wouldn't participate, but I think its bonkers that some of us feel the need to get double charged!

edit: its your money of course so when I say its bonkers, its really aimed towards the product not being up to par, and not so much that passionate freaks want the accurate stuff (that part I understand).
 
I'm surprised you of all people are being so hard up about this, especially considering you have a working relationship with Yunsil and can actually help to get somthing like this going. Infact I'm inclined to say that if Yunsil wasn't dealing with all of your ongoing projects to begin with then Maybe, just maybe she wouldn't have rushed the production on these vests.

Yes one for me and one for your mo......... :lol

You've got Yunsils contact, why don't you get somthing going Marlin? I mean isn't that what your good at anyway since you don't paint or sculpt or tailor anyways. :dunno

My mum loves Daniel Day Louis... Thanks!!!!
She will be very happy...


Yunsil didn't Sell the clothing - Why would we go through her???????

Yes - I at least can get an order going with Yunsil...
You can't even get a basic T shirt ordered :lol:lol:lol:lol

What did you say to me once "Stop riding Rainman's coat tails and find your own tailor".... But thats ok for you of course.:rotfl
 
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The issue with the vests and hat were brought up months ago during the proto stages. The first problem was the hat color which was off and the vest color which was also inaccurate. Looking at these figures now the only thing that was addressed was the pants and the body. That's what was revised.

The vest collar is sewn onto the rest of the vest as a seperate piece. There are going to be variations and the pattern will not always match since this is a Cut & Sew garment....1/6 scale at that! If Yunsil's people had to sit through matching each collar with ovals, we would probably still be waiting on this and they would have gone through and wasted plenty of fabric. Any garment you buy with a pattern desigin will have variation of graphic image placement when it's a cut & sew item.

If ovals on the collar are a detail that most consider important than we might as well get it done right with the accurate colors. But this is more of a bespoke request. Asking Rainman to assume the cost of that is extreme.

People asking for ovals on a vest collar but not giving a **** about the correct color of the vest is bugged out....:slap :lol
 
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The issue with the vests and hat were brought up months ago during the proto stages. The first problem was the hat color which was off and the vest color which was also inaccurate. Looking at these figures now the only thing that was addressed was the pants and the body. That's what was revised.

The vest colours look different to the proto I think??? Not sure... Anyone?
 
Haha guys, in all seriousness, i'd go crazy if the vest on mine didn't have the circles. I really hope a solution that can make everyone happy will be conjured.

But to reply to turbo, we aren't buying a piece of garment, we are buying a figure as represented in a scene of a movie. If it's not acurately depicted, i don't see the point. Just my two cents.
 
Haha guys, in all seriousness, i'd go crazy if the vest on mine didn't have the circles. I really hope a solution that can make everyone happy will be conjured.

But to reply to turbo, we aren't buying a piece of garment, we are buying a figure as represented in a scene of a movie. If it's not acurately depicted, i don't see the point. Just my two cents.

Of course we're buying garments. It's an 1/6 scale outfit that's as important as any other aspect of the figure but it's not accurately depicted to begin with more-so because of the color matching than the issue with the oval variations. Some people got ovals on a collar and some didn't. That to me is just a luck of the draw type of thing, but ALL of us got hats and vests that are not accurately color matched to the film, even after addressing it during the proto stage. Forgive me for being a pessimist here but if we're going to start complaining about ovals and reworking 1/6 collars than at least consider that the colors need to be fixed as well. It just seems to me getting Lee to ok a seperate run of a more accurate vest would be a better pursuit. Asking him to exchange vests because of oval variations though? That's only gonna make it harder for people who really need product fixes or exchange to get their issues resolved. The mustache stems issue is a much more valid and higher priority issue.
 
Haha guys, in all seriousness, i'd go crazy if the vest on mine didn't have the circles. I really hope a solution that can make everyone happy will be conjured.

But to reply to turbo, we aren't buying a piece of garment, we are buying a figure as represented in a scene of a movie. If it's not acurately depicted, i don't see the point. Just my two cents.

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The colors of the vest are accurate though. The monk killing scene was graded/color corrected with a brown hue which altered the look of the vest. you can see the vest in another scene in true light.

As for the ovals, I agree with Chubby - I would be pretty upset if mine didn't have them, and consider myself lucky. Not sure what solution could be made about the discrepancies and variance though.

The mustache stems issue is a much more valid and higher priority issue.

Agreed, this definitely should be dealt with by Lee first.
 
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Trying to do a dry run of reattaching the stache, and it just doesn't line up properly. I don't think it broke clean at the joint where the Handlebar twirl is attached. Really hope he emails one of us who had a problem back. I'm sure he'll make it right but I don't really want to sit on this for a month, then send back and wait god knows how long to receive the sculpt again.
 
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