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canon or not, SSj4 Goku still exists. When we saw the SH Figuarts SS4 Goku, everyone said "wow that's Super Saiyan 4 Goku." Nobody said "I don't know what that is because it isn't canon."

each new form that's ever been introduced is just Goku transforming into a stronger state, nothing more nothing less. therefore, super saiyan, super saiyan 2, super saiyan 3, super saiyan 4, super saiyan god (ss5), super saiyan god super saiyan (ss6) :)
 
It's just like broly he doesn't actually exist so he's not a "legendary super Saiyan" and with gogeta the only real goku/Vegeta fusion is vegito. So as I was saying ss4 doesn't exist if it did goku would have used it against Beerus but he didn't. Also if you think that ssj4 figure is coming out anytime soon you are surely mistaken. Just say it the right way, we have SEEN 6 versions of ssj but Ssgss is actually the five versions.


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Where did you get this info?

I really don't want to miss my chance at getting them. When do we think their preorders will go live again?

The prices were posted in yen in that Shonen Jump Magazine page that had the Trunks and Vegeta re-release info. The figures haven't been officially announced by Tamashii themselves but Shonen Jump is official enough confirmation that it's happening (a leak if you will).

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Broly doesn't exist within the DBZ canon, but to US he exists. He's not a figment of our imaginations. So to US, Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan because that's how he was created. Again, I'm speaking from only our perspective. People aren't supposed to recognize him as a canon character, however people MUST acknowledge him as a Dragon Ball character because that's what he is. Same goes for GT and everything related.

There's no such thing as a "Turbo Super Saiyan" because such a term was never used in DBZ. But if you google Gogeta then Gogeta will pop up, because he's still a DBZ character within the Dragon Ball universe, despite being non-canon.
 
SSJ4 exists in an alternate timeline much how there's a powerful adult version of Trunks in another timeline. Let's keep it at that. It's a thing. It might not be a "canon" thing but it's a reality.
 
Broly doesn't exist within the DBZ canon, but to US he exists. He's not a figment of our imaginations. So to US, Broly is the Legendary Super Saiyan because that's how he was created. Again, I'm speaking from only our perspective. There's no such thing as a "Turbo Super Saiyan" because such a term was never used in DBZ. But if you google Gogeta then Gogeta will pop up, because he's still a DBZ character, despite being non-canon.

:exactly:
 
Any of you beat Xenoverse? Could it be beat or is it more like destiny where you just Grind for gear and never ending. I'm level 6 so far lol

Its a wonderful game... I think and it's well received unlike those crapy games that spike made... In a couple years mark my words there will be an Xenoverse 2. Took me weeks to beat the story mode cause of leveling up but thats the fun of MMO/Rpg games.
 
GT actually doesn't there is no "other timeline" where GT exist if you can prove that GT exist in the dragon ball multi-universe than please do. Just because it's an a game doesn't mean it exist in the multiverse of dragon ball. My point is if your going to say something say it the right why or don't. We have seen 6 versions of super Saiyan but there's really only 5.


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GT actually doesn't there is no "other timeline" where GT exist if you can prove that GT exist in the dragon ball multi-universe than please do. Just because it's an a game doesn't mean it exist in the multiverse of dragon ball. My point is if your going to say something say it the right why or don't. We have seen 6 versions of super Saiyan but there's really only 5.


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GT is part of the Dragon Ball universe as WE (actual humans, not fictional characters) know it. It has been and forever will be. It just doesn't stop existing because it's not "canon". I just stated the separate timeline thing as just a way to stop the canonicity debate since it's so tiring and pointless since this is a series that contradicts itself the moment the writer picks up the pen.

When I think about canonicity, I separate it into anime and manga canon. By anime canon standards, GT is the direct sequel to DBZ, like it or not. DB Super or the movies have not overwritten it quite yet. Sure there's inconsistencies, but this series is ripe with that and even BoG and RoF have inconsistencies and they're "canon". Hell, even the official origin story was messed up and now has two different beginnings which are both canon (thank you Dragon Ball Minus).
 
Yay but because we as humans see it that way doesn't mean it's part of universe. It's like how dbz has 290+ episodes but it's actually 167 episodes of content. Just because the filler happens doesn't mean it's actually apart of the timeline. But you guys have your perspective of it and I have mine. So to each his own!


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Yay but because we as humans see it that way doesn't mean it's part of universe. It's like how dbz has 290+ episodes but it's actually 167 episodes of content. Just because the filler happens doesn't mean it's actually apart of the timeline. But you guys have your perspective of it and I have mine. So to each his own!


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Basically when it comes to these things, it IS all about perspective. Dragon Ball exists in our imagination and we control what we think is canon/not canon. It's up to the reader/viewer to accept or not accept certain aspects of the series. Some people believe DB ended at the Buu Saga, others at the Cell Saga, as you said, to each his own.
 
GT is part of the Dragon Ball universe as WE (actual humans, not fictional characters) know it. It has been and forever will be. It just doesn't stop existing because it's not "canon". I just stated the separate timeline thing as just a way to stop the canonicity debate since it's so tiring and pointless since this is a series that contradicts itself the moment the writer picks up the pen.

When I think about canonicity, I separate it into anime and manga canon. By anime canon standards, GT is the direct sequel to DBZ, like it or not. DB Super or the movies have not overwritten it quite yet. Sure there's inconsistencies, but this series is ripe with that and even BoG and RoF have inconsistencies and they're "canon". Hell, even the official origin story was messed up and now has two different beginnings which are both canon (thank you Dragon Ball Minus).

Sheeiiittt some people think it ended at the Freeza saga


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What was it? All I'm getting is bad gateway links [emoji14]

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It's a warning from a concerned collector about the scalper prices for MexiGoku. Here's the text:

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THIS ADD IS TO INFORM THOSE BIDDING ON THE SHFIGUARTS GO KANJI GOKU DO NOT GIVE IN TO THE FAKE BIDS PAY ATTENTION TO THE BIDS THEY ARE BY 0 RANK EBAY BUYERS AND DRIVE UP THE SALE AND IF THEY END UP BIDDING THEMSELVES THEY END THE BIDS THIS IS A SCAM. DO NOT PAY INFLATED PRICES YOU CONTROL THE MARKET THEY WILL DROP IN PRICE AS LONG AS YOU DO NOT PAY THE SCALPERS. IF YOU BID ON THIS LISTING AND WIN I WILL SEND YOU A THE PICTURE OF GOKU FROM MY PRINTER THAT WAS USED IN THE LISTING TO YOUR ADDRESS NO RETURNS.

It's priced at $1.00 with $15.50 shipping :lol

Edit: Link should be good now
 
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