S.H.FiguArts Dragonball Z figures!!!

[abouttreefitty]

Only reason i can think of is cuz Xenoverse sold a lot of units and has a market. Therefore they decided to use the "main character" from the #1 DBZ game that isn't Goku

This is exactly why they are doing it. The first Xenoverse game sold huge.

 

[Big Deano]

Thing is, Tamashii likely didnt even have a clue about Goku black until we did; heck, Dimps stated they didnt even know he had a transformation so dont have it ready for Xeno 2 and it will likely have to be dlc instead. If they didnt know, Tamashii had no clue he even existed until he was revealed, let alone the transformation, theres no way a proto is ready for him, and since Tien and Yamcha were pulled before we actually seen them properly, they arent true revealed protos yet.

The game figure releases are left field, true, but its simply Tamashii seeing a window to make money and doing it, they are a business after all.

 

[Angelo2113]

I just think it's crap that year after year we get prototypes of figures people ask for and then we get confirmed releases of stuff people don't ask for. It's not like these are prototypes and they're gauging interest either. They already have a release date and we don't even know what they look like, yet we have perfectly good prototypes sitting in limbo begging for a release and nothing. What makes the Time Patroller get a date while characters like SSJ4, the Buu's, and others don't?

We didn't know what Super Warrior Awakening Goku, Super Saiyan Trunks, Super Saiyan Vegeta, and Super Saiyan Gohan looked like either.

This is exactly why they are doing it. The first Xenoverse game sold huge.

Specifically in the Western Market, too.

Thing is, Tamashii likely didnt even have a clue about Goku black until we did; heck, Dimps stated they didnt even know he had a transformation so dont have it ready for Xeno 2 and it will likely have to be dlc instead. If they didnt know, Tamashii had no clue he even existed until he was revealed, let alone the transformation, theres no way a proto is ready for him, and since Tien and Yamcha were pulled before we actually seen them properly, they arent true revealed protos yet.

The game figure releases are left field, true, but its simply Tamashii seeing a window to make money and doing it, they are a business after all.

Why wouldn't there be? Tamashii Nations took reservations for S.H. Figuarts Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku and Golden Frieza the same month Resurrection F was released in Japan. Super Saiyan Rose was revealed on a product image before it was revealed in Dragon Ball Super. It's already been four months since Goku Black was revealed. Banpresto already has a completed prototype out for their DXF Future Trunks who, I believe, was revealed at the same time.

Testify!

 

[prodigy1367]

We didn't know what Super Warrior Awakening Goku, Super Saiyan Trunks, Super Saiyan Vegeta, and Super Saiyan Gohan looked like either.

That's true but at the least they were variations that greatly improved on the original or were highly demanded (battle damage).

The point was that Tamashii already has these set in stone with no regard to how the collectors feel about them. I applaud their decision to go a completely different direction but still I feel it's a wasted release. There are plenty of great prototypes that have come and gone that deserved release dates that people actually asked for that have been scraped and for no apparent reason. Then they wonder why certain characters sell and others don't. That's one of the big peeves about Tamashii that bugs me and a lot of collectors. They need to really start listening to the fans more and sprinkle these odd releases in between stuff that actually has a vocal demand.


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[Angelo2113]

That's true but at the least they were variations that greatly improved on the original or were highly demanded (battle damage).

The point was that Tamashii already has these set in stone with no regard to how the collectors feel about them. I applaud their decision to go a completely different direction but still I feel it's a wasted release. There are plenty of great prototypes that have come and gone that deserved release dates that people actually asked for that have been scraped and for no apparent reason. Then they wonder why certain characters sell and others don't. That's one of the big peeves about Tamashii that bugs me and a lot of collectors. They need to really start listening to the fans more and sprinkle these odd releases in between stuff that actually has a vocal demand.

Tamashii Nations is setting the schedule because they are in charge and make all of the decisions. They need to take risks and test the markets with certain releases to determine if there's potential profit to be made. "Do collectors want Manga colors? Anime colors? Canon characters? Movie characters? Premium Colors? Video game characters?" and etc.

Whether or not Xenoverse Future Trunks and Time Patroller are wasted releases has yet to be seen. They could sell poorly or they could sell well enough for Tamashii Nations to decide on releasing other video game characters and designs further down the road.

There have been great prototypes but Tamashii Nations wants to handle the line in their own way. That could either be random releases or planned Saga focused releases. Other than battle damaged Nappa and maybe Shenron, sorry crisis, I don't think anything has been entirely scrapped. They're not necessarily denying any of the collectors the characters they've revealed. It's not a matter of if they'll be released, it's only a matter of when. Actually, we should be glad that all of the previous prototypes that did not include the updated articulation and quality weren't released. We deserve Tamashii Nation's best product. If that means we have to wait patiently to receive that highest quality product, it's well deserving.

I'm not sure they wonder why certain characters sell well and others don't. I think they're well aware of who sells well and who doesn't based on their Regular Releases and Web Exclusives.

Other than Xenoverse Trunks and Time Patroller, who exactly from the past few releases hasn't been vocally demanded? Or, as you mentioned, greatly improved and appreciated?

 

[misterW]

That's true but at the least they were variations that greatly improved on the original or were highly demanded (battle damage).

The point was that Tamashii already has these set in stone with no regard to how the collectors feel about them. I applaud their decision to go a completely different direction but still I feel it's a wasted release. There are plenty of great prototypes that have come and gone that deserved release dates that people actually asked for that have been scraped and for no apparent reason. Then they wonder why certain characters sell and others don't. That's one of the big peeves about Tamashii that bugs me and a lot of collectors. They need to really start listening to the fans more and sprinkle these odd releases in between stuff that actually has a vocal demand.


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isnt it technically sprinkled in though? it comes out in march and before that we're getting Vegeta 2.0 in oct/nov, gohan 2.0 in Jan, and Cell PCE in february, THEN we get Time trunks in and regular patroller in March. Although i agree that they need to be listening to fan demanded stuff more closely, however, maybe we could see this as funding for stuff we want? i mean with how big xenoverse got, this is clearly a cash grab just like with the RoF figures lol

Perhaps these are filler releases while theyre still fine tuning other stuff (that's my hope anyway).

 

[crisis]

where I think prodigy is coming from is that they should be sprinkling in established B or C-list characters (Raditz, Ginyu, hell even Bulma) as "filler" releases in between the more popular A-listers. Or any of the other prototypes that fell between the cracks since they were revealed. The SHFiguarts market is almost mainly adult collectors, those of us that grew up watching the anime therefore we would like to see those classic characters see a release. as great as the newer articulation & engineering is, that doesn't mean I wanna wait till 2022 just for Nappa. we ain't getting any younger lol


the Yamcha & Tien leak are the glimmer of hope of the B-listers finally getting some love, but Tamashii has pulled the bait n switch method before so who knows if those will ever be in our hands

personally I think even if Time Patroller & XenoTrunks do well, it won't cut into the "main" character releases. That just means the more the merrier. In fact if they do well, then the chances of us seeing our desired movie characters under the "Xenoverse" sub-category are even higher

fans: we want Majin Vegeta
Tamashii: you gotta wait
fans: but whyy
Tamashii: cuz you gotta

 

[Angelo2113]

where I think prodigy is coming from is that they should be sprinkling in established B or C-list characters (Raditz, Ginyu, hell even Bulma) as "filler" releases in between the more popular A-listers. Or any of the other prototypes that fell between the cracks since they were revealed. The SHFiguarts market is almost mainly adult collectors, those of us that grew up watching the anime therefore we would like to see those classic characters see a release. as great as the newer articulation & engineering is, that doesn't mean I wanna wait till 2022 just for Nappa. we ain't getting any younger lol

the Yamcha & Tien leak are the glimmer of hope of the B-listers finally getting some love, but Tamashii has pulled the bait n switch method before so who knows if those will ever be in our hands

fans: we want Majin Vegeta
Tamashii: you gotta wait
fans: but whyy
Tamashii: cuz you gotta

That's not their answer though. Tamashii Nations knows that there is a well established fan base for the original Dragon Ball Z characters that has stood the test of time. While that fan base has kept Tamashii Nations continuing their Dragon Ball Z Character Categories, they're not the only fan base anymore that Tamashii Nations wants to cater to. Tamashii Nations is capitalizing on the most current characters/designs that's added to that popularity. That's where the potential profit is at the moment and that's always going to be the better business decision.

 

[prodigy1367]

All's I'm really trying to say is that they need to give us some of those prototypes and focus more on the fans. Ang makes a good point saying that we should be patient but how long is too long? We've been waiting on Majin Vegeta for a ridiculous amount of time and when we finally see a glimpse of him, it's a freakin DB Heroes SSJ3 version (the biggest slap in the face they've given us imo). A lot of the protos were pretty good and even production ready (SSG Goku, current SSJ4) and yet they were scrapped for reasons unknown which really sucks.

I understand them capitalizing on the current stuff going on but they keep getting our hopes up just to knock em down. The Tien and Yamcha thing was a perfect example and many were expecting them to be the next two releases. Now we have these two Xenoverse characters already slotted out of the blue. Their business practices just leave a lot to be desired...

 

[crisis]

That's not their answer though.

i was just joking, obvs

 

[Angelo2113]

All's I'm really trying to say is that they need to give us some of those prototypes and focus more on the fans. Ang makes a good point saying that we should be patient but how long is too long? We've been waiting on Majin Vegeta for a ridiculous amount of time and when we finally see a glimpse of him, it's a freakin DB Heroes SSJ3 version (the biggest slap in the face they've given us imo). A lot of the protos were pretty good and even production ready (SSG Goku, current SSJ4) and yet they were scrapped for reasons unknown which really sucks.

I understand them capitalizing on the current stuff going on but they keep getting our hopes up just to knock em down. The Tien and Yamcha thing was a perfect example and many were expecting them to be the next two releases. Now we have these two Xenoverse characters already slotted out of the blue. Their business practices just leave a lot to be desired...

No offense to the Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta fans, myself included, but did we really want this body for Majin Vegeta?

Spoiler

The anticipation for Majin Vegeta should have begun when the newer Super Saiyan Vegeta was revealed. The parts from that figure are certainly what Tamashii Nations should be using for Majin Vegeta, without question.

Super Saiyan 4 Goku is one of the best examples of the frustration between prototypes and collectors awaiting announcement. (Unless you're crisis or blood, that frustration has to be whack.) As frustrated as I am, and while the Figuarts Zero EX has immensely taken away some of that frustration, I would rather let Tamashii Nations take their time to update the product so they deliver us the highest, possible quality product. If he were released at the time of his initial prototype, all of the improvements would never have happened. So it's a question of what would you, the collector, sacrifice?

Tien and Yamcha are good examples of that. Tamashii Nations should have accepted that we live in a digital world where as soon as that photo went viral, it was out of their control. **** happens. They should have allowed them to be displayed. I still think they needed certain upgrades and improvements though which makes me think of a reason why they weren't displayed for the remainder of the convention. Tamashii Nations seems to be production ready whenever they reveal a figure that has been or is close to scheduled announcement. (The only recent change that I remember seeing was Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta's hair mold.) That could very well have been a reason why they weren't allowed to be revealed. Maybe Tamashii Nations didn't feel the quality was good enough.

Xenoverse Trunks and Time Patroller are taking up one month. The same month that Figuarts Zero EX Super Saiyan 4 Goku is released. While I understand that frustration, I don't think it's that much of a significant potential take away from other releases.

i was just joking, obvs

I saw it as an opening to give an answer. Don't take that away from me.

 

[Unicron129]

Anyone selling or know the cheapest place to find SSGSS Vegeta and Goku?

Also, for those who missed it, new TFS DBZ Abridged episode 55 from 6 days ago.

 

[silverpikachu]

Anyone selling or know the cheapest place to find SSGSS Vegeta and Goku?

Also, for those who missed it, new TFS DBZ Abridged episode 55 from 6 days ago.

Try barnes and noble for ssgss goku. Look for their monthly 20% discount and get it around $35-$40 and check toyzinthebox for ssgss vegeta i think they still have him for $40-$45

 

[Ssj3_Vegeta]

Hopefully if 3geta comes back, he'll be significantly retooled. The face they showed him with looks creepy as hell and the body is long obsolete.

 

[crisis]

Soo what exactly is Zamasu's goals again? Is it really just the "i must purify the earth by killing every human" cliché?

 

[DasMuse]

Soo what exactly is Zamasu's goals again? Is it really just the "i must purify the earth by killing every human" cliché?

More along the lines of destroying all mortals, not just on earth.

 

[prodigy1367]

Thing I don't get is, why doesn't he just wipe out planet Earth? Why waste time and wreak havoc on West City literally toying with the few humans left there? Should just destroy the planet and then move on to the next. But that kind of logic wouldn't make a good story now would it?

If I really wanted to eliminate all mortals, I would've just used my wish to do that and not go through this whole Black Goku thing but that's just me

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[misterW]

I think it's more like Lucifer's motiviation in the tv show Supernatural. He hates mortals but appreciates nature hence not destroying the planet outright, and i think he didnt use the wish to just get rid of everyone because it's something he wants to see done personally, and also he's quite twisted he probably just enjoys watching mortals struggle to live before he finishes them off. I guess sort of the thrill of the hunt kind of thing and feeling superior for being able to do so. That's my interpretation anyway.

 

[Angelo2113]

I think it's more like Lucifer's motiviation in the tv show Supernatural. He hates mortals but appreciates nature hence not destroying the planet outright, and i think he didnt use the wish to just get rid of everyone because it's something he wants to see done personally, and also he's quite twisted he probably just enjoys watching mortals struggle to live before he finishes them off. I guess sort of the thrill of the hunt kind of thing and feeling superior for being able to do so. That's my interpretation anyway.

I see a lot of similarities between Zamasu and Supernatural's Lucifer! Zamasu/Lucifer rebel against Gowasu/God because they're told to bow down to mortals/humanity. Beings that are broken, flawed, and disrespectful. Their mission thus turns into cleansing the world of the imperfections. Both Lucifer, using a human vessel done by permission, and Zamasu, using Earth's Greatest Defender as his vessel, to accomplish it.

Well done, misterW! I'm seeing this Saga a lot differently now!

 

[crisis]

b-but i still don't get it. In the beginning of the saga Zamasu still had doubts, so he and Gowasu travelled to a planet in their universe and observed a barbaric alien race, that obviously wasn't human. He concluded that there was no hope for them, so what does that have to do with him destroying humanity on earth?