Haha that's cool! Looks great regardless. I'm sending mine off to Seb soon as it arrives for dirt/bloodification!
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Haha that's cool! Looks great regardless. I'm sending mine off to Seb soon as it arrives for dirt/bloodification!
Hosam-G
Super Freak
guys again im sorry for the delay. My day time job has been real busy and when i get home I only had about 1 ~ 2 hrs to work on 1/6th. i'll try and put in more hrs per night to finish these off.
my table is a mess, still painting these and a full box of casts next to me.
guys again im sorry for the delay. My day time job has been real busy and when i get home I only had about 1 ~ 2 hrs to work on 1/6th. i'll try and put in more hrs per night to finish these off.
my table is a mess, still painting these and a full box of casts next to me.
Thanks for the update Jack really appreciate it, no problems waiting just always appreciate communication, thanks!
Jediguy
Super Freak
Thanks Jack... I just ****ed in my pants
Corrose
Super Freak
Not that anyone was looking for my 2 cents, but I think it's an insight I would like to share. A couple of years back I was in the same shoes as a lot of you, I pre-ordered something, paid a deposit and got on a list. I basically expected to be updated, and I expected prompt feedback, and was following up with sellers (in hindsight maybe more than I should). My attitude back then was "I paid for it, their excuses are not my problem"
Since that time I have placed myself on the other side of the fence, with the 1/6 items I have been offering along with the decal stuff. Being on this side really opens your eyes up and has allowed me to be much more understanding. I am not perfect, and I still get excited about things I order, but a lot of those impulses have faded away or the intensity has diminished.
I don't know Jack personally, but I do have empathy for him on this project, because I see a lot of this in the things I offer myself. We get into this as an extension of our own passions for collecting, we as artists enjoy making something from nothing, and be able to wow others with our art. In most cases, customers are not being charged for the long hours of R&D, the trials and errors of casting, painting, sanding, sewing, etc. We go into these projects and do okay, but they aren't always bank breakers. Those of us with full time careers or jobs, plus families make it even tougher. You want to finish what you start, you want to make others happy, you are leaving your 9-6 day job with every fiber of your being intending on wrapping up someones order after work. The wife calls on your drive home and is feeling sick, something at home breaks down, you get called back into the office...just life being life. When we spend 4 hours after work on custom projects, thats 4 hours away from our wives/husbands/children, and there is no compensation for that.
None of us intentionally want people to wait on things they are excited about, but there are other things that come up that cannot wait or be ignored. I for one LOVE the movie 'Drive', I did the decals for Jack's full set, and I even have a full figure on order. I CANNOT wait to get it, but I would much, much rather him take 4 more months if that means the final product will be that much better. You can tell if someone rushes a job because they are just sick of being nagged about it.
The behavior of others can sometimes make you question as artists, if you want to keep offering product because you ask yourself "is it worth the effing hassle anymore" You start getting blamed for how long the post office takes, but at the same time the buyer didn't want to opt for the faster shipping, they start threatening to open a paypal claim against you because of a delay, and some days you just want to say "F" it because the payday is not always worth the stress.
Again, I'm far from perfect, but I know that Jack is a true artist, and from my communications with him, a stand up dude. He will deliver the goods when he can. If he is having to take the time every 3 days to take new photos, upload them, color correct them, crop them, resize them, upload them to photobucket, copy and paste the URLs and then type a 3 paragraph apology on the delay, every few days, that's literally hours he could be using to paint and finish the orders. If he is having to reply to 10 PMs a week asking "Any updates Bro?", that's another hour or so he could be painting instead.
I just wanted to throw out a different perspective to think about.
Since that time I have placed myself on the other side of the fence, with the 1/6 items I have been offering along with the decal stuff. Being on this side really opens your eyes up and has allowed me to be much more understanding. I am not perfect, and I still get excited about things I order, but a lot of those impulses have faded away or the intensity has diminished.
I don't know Jack personally, but I do have empathy for him on this project, because I see a lot of this in the things I offer myself. We get into this as an extension of our own passions for collecting, we as artists enjoy making something from nothing, and be able to wow others with our art. In most cases, customers are not being charged for the long hours of R&D, the trials and errors of casting, painting, sanding, sewing, etc. We go into these projects and do okay, but they aren't always bank breakers. Those of us with full time careers or jobs, plus families make it even tougher. You want to finish what you start, you want to make others happy, you are leaving your 9-6 day job with every fiber of your being intending on wrapping up someones order after work. The wife calls on your drive home and is feeling sick, something at home breaks down, you get called back into the office...just life being life. When we spend 4 hours after work on custom projects, thats 4 hours away from our wives/husbands/children, and there is no compensation for that.
None of us intentionally want people to wait on things they are excited about, but there are other things that come up that cannot wait or be ignored. I for one LOVE the movie 'Drive', I did the decals for Jack's full set, and I even have a full figure on order. I CANNOT wait to get it, but I would much, much rather him take 4 more months if that means the final product will be that much better. You can tell if someone rushes a job because they are just sick of being nagged about it.
The behavior of others can sometimes make you question as artists, if you want to keep offering product because you ask yourself "is it worth the effing hassle anymore" You start getting blamed for how long the post office takes, but at the same time the buyer didn't want to opt for the faster shipping, they start threatening to open a paypal claim against you because of a delay, and some days you just want to say "F" it because the payday is not always worth the stress.
Again, I'm far from perfect, but I know that Jack is a true artist, and from my communications with him, a stand up dude. He will deliver the goods when he can. If he is having to take the time every 3 days to take new photos, upload them, color correct them, crop them, resize them, upload them to photobucket, copy and paste the URLs and then type a 3 paragraph apology on the delay, every few days, that's literally hours he could be using to paint and finish the orders. If he is having to reply to 10 PMs a week asking "Any updates Bro?", that's another hour or so he could be painting instead.
I just wanted to throw out a different perspective to think about.
Excellent post, Chris.
Summed it up perfectly Chris. I'm far more patient these days than I used to be in life in general I think the older you get the calmer you get lol. I've seen an alarming turn in the hobby over the last couple of years everybody wants everything yesterday it drives me insane. I can't even begin to fathom the amount of blood, sweat, tears and hours this particular project must have taken it'll ship when it ships and when it arrives I know the wait will have been 100% worth it!
I probably agree with you....I have to wait for my girlfriend to get off of work so she can read this to me.
I agree with you Corrose but haven't seen anyone demanding it ship now or threatening to open paypal claims haha, just customers asking for communication here and there, nothing wrong with wanting Jack to post maybe once a week with status updates, hell even every other week, takes a min to type a simple status update, I am totally fine with this taking another year if it had to for the reasons you explained but keeping people in the loop goes a long way haha, very excited for this, keep up the great work Jack!
Corrose
Super Freak
Fair enough, but you know this guy is getting tons of PMs, I can almost certainly guarantee you there is at least 1 person PMing Jack every couple of days, not to mention the posts asking for updates every few posts. My point was that the time it takes to send all those replies and weekly updates is time he could be using to work on the goods.
Didn't mean to derail his thread anymore than I may have already, so I won't post again, I just wanted to illustrate that the guy is busy and he will get to it when he can is all.
Oh no doubt he must get a ton of PM's haha and posts asking for updates but that all would be negated with a status update every now and then, I'm sure he is crazy busy and I for one really appreciate his time and effort and from the pictures that time and effort is paying off, excitement can get the best of us sometimes haha I am to blame for some of those posts aswell.
xenoviper
Super Freak
Sorry guys i should of given you all more updates but sometimes i just dont have any good progress to give you guys an update. :/
Im doing this as pure hobby i dont live off the money that i receive from these figures that i make. If anyone wants out i totally understand and im able to refund you right now.
For the people msg me in regards to loose sets Im not ignoring your PM. I just havent got around to you guys yet as I dont want to dig myself into a deeper hole by accepting more deposits and new orders.
Also if anyone on the fullset or dx loose set who couldnt wait I can refund you the cost of paint job and ship you guys unpainted too.
We can all work things out...
Im doing this as pure hobby i dont live off the money that i receive from these figures that i make. If anyone wants out i totally understand and im able to refund you right now.
For the people msg me in regards to loose sets Im not ignoring your PM. I just havent got around to you guys yet as I dont want to dig myself into a deeper hole by accepting more deposits and new orders.
Also if anyone on the fullset or dx loose set who couldnt wait I can refund you the cost of paint job and ship you guys unpainted too.
We can all work things out...
Don't take my posts as me being annoyed Jack, I love your work and have no problem waiting, just suggestions updates every now and then even white lies such as "still painting!" Haha help people sleep haha but all in all I'm sure everyone here trusts you and can't wait for this amazing figure, take your time man!
It's all good, Jack. I'm prepping some figs for a photo shoot and was thinking today how to write, when I add to my thread, a thank you for your help with one particular figure...ah, memory lane!
So...... any updates? 
TurdFerguson
Super Freak
TurdFerguson
Super Freak
Thanks for the update, Jack. Even though guys like Andrew keeps bugging you. 
just kidding Andrew. 
just kidding Andrew.
xenoviper
Super Freak
Dont worry man I didnt think your post was offensive at all.
Im also a collector too I buy custom made figures/kits from talented artists so I know that anxious feeling of waiting for the figure to be finished.
Thanks man!
xenoviper
Super Freak
So...... any updates?
yeh i'll give you an update... but not Drive related...
BrBa was awesome.... Dexter ending was crap...
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