Selfish Motive to an Unfitting End.

[El Roranous]

It saddens me the way some people regard music and artists. It seems as though most people are turning to digital downloads for their music. Which is all fine and dandy but they are purchasing only the hit tracks off of cds leaving behind and breaking apart a masterpiece and failing to see the work as a bigger picture. More like a meal that needs to be enjoyed completely to fully appreciate the theme that ties it altogether.

This is why I enjoy buying cds and listening to them fully and in order. A good artist, meaning one that actually creates art musically will tie together a concept and make you realize or understand a moment in time and a reason why by the end of an album. This seems to be lost on the next generation. However, I will continue to buy cds- whole cds till I no longer can.

Rant over.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Agree 100%, but I don't understand the thread title.

 

[Darth Waller]

Which is all fine and dandy but they are purchasing only the hit tracks off of cds leaving behind and breaking apart a masterpiece and failing to see the work as a bigger picture.

This is why you can't download AC/DC from iTunes or Amazon.

 

[El Roranous]

Yeah, this comes from perusing Itues after a severely long stint of ignoring it's presence. I was looking for a rare album that can no longer be purchased but all I see are people begging for iTunes to release things as singles so that they can leave the rest of the project to trash. Nver found my rare album. Seems they only include best sellers. Joke.

 

[El Roranous]

Agree 100%, but I don't understand the thread title.

Well it's the selfish motives of the next generation of music buyers that are giving, or producing the unfitting end of an era of musical art. It seems that people have always just wanted the hits and now the music industry is catering to that and maybe future artists will be discouraged against filling in the rest of a story on an album.

Rambling now.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Well it's the selfish motives of the next generation of music buyers that are giving, or producing the unfitting end of an era of musical art. It seems that people have always just wanted the hits and now the music industry is catering to that and maybe future artists will be discouraged against filling in the rest of a story on an album.

Rambling now.

The best artists never gave and still don't give a ^^^^ for what the mainstream or the record companies want.

 

[El Roranous]

And it's really not like I am supporting the music industry or anybody besides the artists. I want them to be fulfilled for following what's within them and not trying to just make an album with one party song that every little teeny bopper will want to download.

I think a lot of people are missing out on some great music by only listening to the track that makes it on the radio. In fact, the track that makes it on the radio is usually the weakest song and meant to lure people into see the real message within the whole album.

This is not always true though. Quality is everything. Some people shouldn't be making "music" period. Ahem! ^^^^ney Spears for example.... you can leave that whole album in the dumpster next to the used condom.

 

[Michael Crawford]

Uh...and how is this different than the singles vinyl market when I was a kid? And you seem to be entirely ignoring the fact that people often download a single they like, and it triggers a desire to get the rest of the music from the released CD from the same artist. I ended up with plenty of crappy albums over the years because one song was good and sucked me in

 

[El Roranous]

The best artists never gave and still don't give a ^^^^ for what the mainstream or the record companies want.

Word man. Most of them just break away form it all and start something themselves like Trent from NIN.

I just guess I would like people to open their minds and their ears to the rest of the story and the music that they are missing out on. Most people just like one song because they hear it on the radio and then they never even bother to analyze their reasons further.

 

[Darth Loki]

Hi Rory

 

[El Roranous]

Uh...and how is this different than the singles vinyl market when I was a kid? And you seem to be entirely ignoring the fact that people often download a single they like, and it triggers a desire to get the rest of the music from the released CD from the same artist. I ended up with plenty of crappy albums over the years because one song was good and sucked me in

It's happened to me too man. All about the quality of the artists I think.


I wouldn't know about buying a single and being driven to buy the rest since I have always stayed away from digital downloads. Never liked them because I didn't have a tangible copy and felt like I was getting ripped off. Furthermore, I have always been worired about losing the songs that I paid for due to a malfunction. And they have such strict rules for the usage of the material as well. Once you buy it, you may pay them but you never really own it.

The rules drive me insane.

 

[barryo]

dont forget a lot of what gets put on an album is controlled or heavily influenced by the record company itself. while a more famous name in music might have more control on what goes on an album lesser may have to comply to the record company themselves. if you watch enough interviews with older musicians/bands and hearing of the struggles getting records made most point the finger back at the label. not all but quite a few.

 

[Reefer Shark]

Yeah, it's a new generation of consumers out there. The internet has given buyers all the options they could want, and the ability to really manage what they buy.

I don't mind so much. Even when I download music, I usually buy the whole album since I like to really dig in and expose my self to everything thats done by artists I like. I actually usually find that my favorite songs are not the big hits you hear on the radio, it's usually the hidden gems on the albums.

The other thing is that not too many bands do themed albums anymore. That seemed to have died along with classic metal. Some bands are doing to some extent though (like Mastodon & Neurosis).

 

[EVILFACE]

Put better songs on your album, problem solved.

 

[El Roranous]

I hear ya Reefer. There's a new generation of consumers out there and mostly, i don't mind. I like buying things on the internet myself.

The themed albums have pretty much died out but I do think that a good artists will paint you a bigger picture with the whole album. More of a loose emotional theme than a real live actual theme.

Think Beach Boys Pet Sounds for example.

 

[Reefer Shark]

It's happened to me too man. All about the quality of the artists I think.


I wouldn't know about buying a single and being driven to buy the rest since I have always stayed away from digital downloads. Never liked them because I didn't have a tangible copy and felt like I was getting ripped off. Furthermore, I have always been worired about losing the songs that I paid for due to a malfunction. And they have such strict rules for the usage of the material as well. Once you buy it, you may pay them but you never really own it.

The rules drive me insane.

Hey - you can download music to itunes, then copy it to CD - there's your tangible copy! Then save the music files to a external hard drive for backup so you never lose the music.

Took me a while to come around, but I've finally seen the light. I do miss having the album artwork and such though... Miss the days of LP's and those big awesome album covers (IE: Iron Maiden )

 

[occulum]

its a double edged sword ....
.... it can be bad cause it can cause people to only buy the hit singles and iss other good music ..

... and it can be good cause it forces band who put out 1 hit and then 10 ^^^^ty accompanying songs to actually put effort into an entire album rather than just a couple songs ....

 

[El Roranous]

Hey - you can download music to itunes, then copy it to CD - there's your tangible copy! Then save the music files to a external hard drive for backup so you never lose the music.

Took me a while to come around, but I've finally seen the light. I do miss having the album artwork and such though... Miss the days of LP's and those big awesome album covers (IE: Iron Maiden )

Good advice. Reading over the rules of itunes kind of deters me from making purchases. They have like computer transferring rules and I think they even restrict the amount of times you can copy a song onto cd.

The cool thing about buying a cd is that you can always have a solid good quality copy ready and also that you can back it up on the computer if you want. Plus you can also sell it if you hate it. I will forever be old school.

 

[ProgMatinee]

The concept album is alive and well in prog rock. Pain of Salvation, Porcupine Tree, Coheed and Cambria, etc.

 

[El Roranous]

I think all the Coheed and Cambria albums are connected as a huge saga or story- right?