Show Us Your Troops (Sideshow/Marmit/Medicom/etc.)!

[MidnightClad]

I'd be all over that At-AT driver if i had the cash right now, if it's still around come may i'll be speaking with you

I feel the same way about the tie pilot. Always searching for one but never have the cash when one is available

 

[krieg-der-sterne]

I feel the same way about the tie pilot. Always searching for one but never have the cash when one is available

i got 2 of these dudes,but no stormtrooper

 

[DarthTrafford]

I just opened my Luke & Han Stormtrooper 2 pack and man their arms are wicked loose.
I can't even pose them with their arms bent trying to hold their helmets in the crook of their arms.
Other than that I love these figures!
The detail in the helmets is crazy!
Taking a few pics now,maybe some with my new diecast Threepio too.

 

[MidnightClad]

I just opened my Luke & Han Stormtrooper 2 pack and man their arms are wicked loose.
I can't even pose them with their arms bent trying to hold their helmets in the crook of their arms.
Other than that I love these figures!
The detail in the helmets is crazy!
Taking a few pics now,maybe some with my new diecast Threepio too.

Most of the older SSC figures have had the floppy joint problem which is such a shame. The only figure that I didn't do a body swap on with floppy joints was the Kenobi armored figure and while posing him one day his floppy joints made me so mad that I inadvertently broke his hip joint (hate the weak joints on some bodies to).

Guess I showed that figure still need to find another armored body for him now that I think of it

 

[Pixelpiper]

I'd love for someone else to look into this, as I can't find a scene in ANH to disprove my initial thought: Stormtrooper helmets are flatter/wider than Sandtrooper helmets. This is something I noticed years ago but never gave any additional thought to and never bothered to actually try and compare side by side. Until just the other day.

I've read a lot about the minor differences in paint and that the Sandtroopers were created first, but nothing about the width. If you look at pretty much every trooper scene from the Tantive IV raid at the beginning of the film you'll notice that the trooper helmets appear quite wide, especially in relation to the shoulders. But in general they look somewhat squat.

Fast forward to scenes on Tatooine and I can't find a single Sandtrooper with a helmet appearing as squat/wide. They appear thinner in every single scene when compared to the Stormtroopers. I've even placed screen caps side by side to verify I wasn't imagining things and to confirm that none of the frames were out of aspect. I've verifying that circular details appear circular in various examples, made sure that unmasked faces in the same scene looked correct by matching against other scenes, etc.

So without any additional details or information to prove otherwise, I feel 99% certain that Stormtrooper Helmets, at least all those from Tantive IV scenes so far, are wider and more squat than Sandtrooper helmets.

 

[INCOM]

Intersesting. I thought they were all the same except for hero and stunt. Could it be that some of the Sandtrooper helmets got warped when filming in the hot Tunisia climate?

 

[Solo_bones]

It's more about the different casting. Some were stunt and some were hero (fewer teeth, different eyes). I don't think any hero helmets were used on sandtroopers, but some of those stunts were used in many scenes with stormtroopers. There's several sites that show this.

Then there's also how the helmets came together. Some of the Sandtrooper helmets lid didn't connect to the face as well as others which creates the image that the brow trim is higher over the forehead, when actually that's the seam between the lid and face.

https://www.starwarshelmets.com/original-stormtrooper-comparisons.htm

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

Someone should post that link withe Sandie Stormie comps & run downs / explanations.

JKNO?

 

[Solo_bones]

Here's some info on that:

https://www.starwarshelmets.com/original-ANH-Stunt-Stormtrooper-armor-helmets.htm

 

[jkno]

It's more about the different casting. Some were stunt and some were hero (fewer teeth, different eyes). I don't think any hero helmets were used on sandtroopers, but some of those stunts were used in many scenes with stormtroopers. There's several sites that show this.

Then there's also how the helmets came together. Some of the Sandtrooper helmets lid didn't connect to the face as well as others which creates the image that the brow trim is higher over the forehead, when actually that's the seam between the lid and face.

https://www.starwarshelmets.com/original-stormtrooper-comparisons.htm

Exactly.

I would advise people to read more about how the screen used helmets were made, and then they'll realize why there are the differences they see in the movies. It would take too long to explain in a post here what was already explained on other sites.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I think the difference may be between Hero ad Stunt helmets.

I'm really not sure why the author of that page takes such pleasure in pointing out that the right tube (as you look at the helmet) is more bulbous than the left - it is not visible at all in any of the pictures he posts, nor is it something to rave about with regards to production (I'm sure it was a mistake in the sculpt). What I get from all this behind the scenes info is that these props were very rushed and pretty much garage-built with very little quality and a seemingly disrespectful attention to detail.

I still love the movies, but honestly I'm not necessarily a big fan of a lot of the behind the scenes stuff because I still feel it takes away some of the magic - something I felt very passionate about as a child. I can still remember seeing the first behind the scenes coverage in the 80's which for me at the time, was a huge downer.

Honestly, if I were making my own Stormtrooper suit (or just helmet) I would not be concerned about prop accuracy and would instead have the goal of surpassing the props in every way. Make up for all of the deficiencies in their process and all the mistakes made by the trades people constructing them. Hand painted tubes and vents? No. I'd have real vents. Visible flat head screws? No thanks. Anyway, that's just me. I'm concerned more about the vision (and cinematic experience) rather than the limitations and inadequacies of the time period/situation. These suits would have been produced by arms contractors with advanced tooling, not being cobbled together and hand-painted by Jar Jar Binks.

With regards to 1/6 collecting, I'm now at 2 SSC Sandtroopers (Sergeant EX and Corporal) and the Marmit Stormtrooper and Sergeant Sandtrooper. For ANH, only one more Marmit to go (Squad Leader) and 3 SSC (Stormtrooper, Squad Leader and Deluxe Sandtroopers). Woo! For ESB I'm currently sitting with one SSC Snowtrooper and I really want to grab the Marmit AT-AT driver. Then for RoTJ, hopefully someone will release a Biker Scout(trooper) soon(ish).

 

[jkno]

I guess you found your own answer. Anyway the thing is I like to see how they made these special effects back then because it is an art that is fading away unfortunately. Many of the props (SW or not) are not as cool as you see them on screen. Idealizing them would kill exactly what they really are, a movie prop, and that is because if SW was real, no way they would have used plastic armors, maybe kevlar or something bullet proof, the same with some of the plastic guns used on many movies.

Since they were on budget the film producers made them the way they could back then. And they still are light years ahead of the new CGI, because with all their roughness, there is a lot of heart and soul put in them, and not just a computer program. And personally I pay my respect to these true artist by collecting accurate props. This way I have the entire experience of the movie and I still realize how good the movie is with hand made props.

 

[Solo_bones]

I guess you found your own answer. Anyway the thing is I like to see how they made these special effects back then because it is an art that is fading away unfortunately. Many of the props (SW or not) are not as cool as you see them on screen. Idealizing them would kill exactly what they really are, a movie prop, and that is because if SW was real, no way they would have used plastic armors, maybe kevlar or something bullet proof, the same with some of the plastic guns used on many movies.

Since they were on budget the film producers made them the way they could back then. And they still are light years ahead of the new CGI, because with all their roughness, there is a lot of heart and soul put in them, and not just a computer program. And personally I pay my respect to these true artist by collecting accurate props. This way I have the entire experience of the movie and I still realize how good the movie is with hand made props.

Well said. I idolize the image of what they were supposed to be, not what they really were. There's simply no way for them to be real, or designed to be real without it exploding a movie budget.

They did a great enough job to sell it, at the time. For me, it's more about remembering the love of Star Wars, rather than pick at it. If you think about it, why would any character have ammo pouches and bandoliers? They just sold it and pulled it off.

I'm not a big fan of the CGI, or the over the top characters we saw in the newest 3 movies. I hope the new movies return to grit & grime and make Star Wars believable and not spectacular with "amazing architecture" and CGI special effects creating a new space universe. That never appealed to me.

 

[Pixelpiper]

I think that's the point I was making as well, which is that when looking for details about a 1/6 collectible or if I were custom-creating something myself, it would be about recreating what was supposed to be, not what actually was. I don't collect props and am not looking for the hidden details that were involved in the prop process. For instance, if I buy a C-3PO or R2 1/6 figure, I'm not expecting to be able to open them and see the actors inside. If they did have opening parts, I'd expect wires and circuits, because they're droids.

I don't mind computer graphics when they're used convincingly. The stuff in the prequel movies was frankly sub-par for movies of such budgets. In the end it wasn't the graphics that caused the most problems with the prequels it was just convoluted story line. The rest one can overlook for the most part, but not when it's being slapped in your face repeatedly to overcome the flawed scripts.

 

[jedijim3002]

I hear ya on that. Although I enjoyed the over all theme of all three prequels, "Anakin kid ripped away from his mother, molded by Palpatines philosophies, turns on the Jedi to save at least one person in his life" I think most of the prequels was really unnecessary. The only real plot I liked was Palpatines. I was hoping for more evil from Vader but I guess that was George's vision. To show how a nice kid could make bad decisions and turn bad.

In the end we got some pretty cool designs for collectables and we will always have the Darth Maul lightsaber fight.

 

[Solo_bones]

I think that's the point I was making as well, which is that when looking for details about a 1/6 collectible or if I were custom-creating something myself, it would be about recreating what was supposed to be, not what actually was. I don't collect props and am not looking for the hidden details that were involved in the prop process. For instance, if I buy a C-3PO or R2 1/6 figure, I'm not expecting to be able to open them and see the actors inside. If they did have opening parts, I'd expect wires and circuits, because they're droids.

Yeah, I get that point. I just cant think of a SW figure that they improved upon in the 1/6th version from the movie version (except C-3PO ). Even the Gamorrean guards look like big fake costumes, that fit LOTR better than Star Wars, IMO.

But, no biggie....it's the first two that I loved the most, and even ROTJ was a superb movie. And I agree about the story lines on the new versions as well.......yawn. There were a few scenes I really liked..although I think they tried to tie in too may characters from OTG which made the story seem sort of silly.

Looking forward to the next versions and spin offs.

 

[Pixelpiper]

Latest troops, a nice little gift from my Dad today:



My house key, Star Wars style. Thankfully my kids are way too young to even know what Star Wars is yet, or they'd be all over this.

 

[DarthTrafford]

Just a quick question.
Is the armor for the Luke & Han Stormtroopers the same as the regular Stormtrooper figures?
I'm thinking of just switching the head sculpts of Luke & Han and a few accessories with 2 Stormtrooper figures I have.
Will the sculpts be able to fit on the Stormtrooper body or is the neck different?
I don't want to open them if the switch won't work.

 

[shocktrooper_au]

I think that's the point I was making as well, which is that when looking for details about a 1/6 collectible or if I were custom-creating something myself, it would be about recreating what was supposed to be, not what actually was. I don't collect props and am not looking for the hidden details that were involved in the prop process. For instance, if I buy a C-3PO or R2 1/6 figure, I'm not expecting to be able to open them and see the actors inside. If they did have opening parts, I'd expect wires and circuits, because they're droids.

I don't mind computer graphics when they're used convincingly. The stuff in the prequel movies was frankly sub-par for movies of such budgets. In the end it wasn't the graphics that caused the most problems with the prequels it was just convoluted story line. The rest one can overlook for the most part, but not when it's being slapped in your face repeatedly to overcome the flawed scripts.

I think I'm somewhere in between, I want all the little nuances that make it look right but I don't care about things like finger prints or paint runs. Do I want my storm trooper to look like he's been punched in the face hell yess.... Thats hat makes it look right, I see it as dark side of the force distortion, not only the truth is distorted in the empire but the world itself

 

[jedijim3002]

Just a quick question.
Is the armor for the Luke & Han Stormtroopers the same as the regular Stormtrooper figures?
I'm thinking of just switching the head sculpts of Luke & Han and a few accessories with 2 Stormtrooper figures I have.
Will the sculpts be able to fit on the Stormtrooper body or is the neck different?
I don't want to open them if the switch won't work.

Yes. The only differences are the helmets, and belt accessories. The luke/han helmets have details inside and dont fit on the heads nor the body to look like a trooper. Lukes belt accessories are the grapple hook box with a comlink clip as apposed to a thermal detonator. The neck posts are the same so the heads will fit.