1/6 Sideshow ASH - Evil Dead 2

[teemu]

And the whole trilogy could be spliced into one 4.5 hour movie. What's your point?

The ending of Evil Dead II is harder to reconcile with the events of Army of Darkness than the beginning is to reconcile with the first film.

Evil dead II's ending goes right into Army of Darkness...what are you talking about?? in fact,AOD starts off with EVil Dead 2 ending

 

[GuruAskew]

Have you actually watched these movies? It's substantially different. In ED2 he immediately encountered the winged deadite, dispatches it in front of everyone and is hailed as the savior within seconds of arriving. You're telling me that this jibes with the events portrayed in Army of Darkness?

You need to disregard the beginning and end of EDII to make any sense of these films as a trilogy, but that's the thing, you can make sense of them.

 

[teemu]

Have you actually watched these movies? It's substantially different. In ED2 he immediately encountered the winged deadite, dispatches it in front of everyone and is hailed as the savior within seconds of arriving. You're telling me that this jibes with the events portrayed in Army of Darkness?

You need to disregard the beginning and end of EDII to make any sense of these films as a trilogy, but that's the thing, you can make sense of them.

have you watched these movies??

The ending of where Ash gets sucked into the time portal is where Army of Darkness would start...AOD uses the exact same scene from Evil Dead 2 and that's where AOD would start..

AOD starts off exactly where EDII left off (but filmed differently,but still the same result)

the ending that your referring to (of the very last part of EDII) just wouldn't be in the 2 films sliced together

 

[GuruAskew]

Make up your mind: does the ending "go right into Army of Darkness" or would you need to remove it so it "just wouldn't be in the two films sliced together?"

And again, my original point was that if you're going to slice parts off to splice the films together you can include the first film too.

 

[teemu]

Make up your mind: does the ending "go right into Army of Darkness" or would you need to remove it so it "just wouldn't be in the two films sliced together?"

And again, my original point was that if you're going to slice parts off to splice the films together you can include the first film too.

nevermind,it's pretty clear where the film of EDII continues right into AOD...RIGHT after he gets sucked in the portal them himself and car falling to the ground (it's actually the same scene re-used in AOD)

 

[karamazov80]

I think it's also true thought that you can used the fleshed out components of Evil Dead 1 as a precursor to a lot of what happens in ED 2. By cutting things out (how he arrived to the cabin, and what happened to his girlfriend in Evil Dead 2), you could also splice that film in. It would be weird though, because the tone was pretty different, but I would say that's also the case between ED 2 and AOD.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

I think it's also true thought that you can used the fleshed out components of Evil Dead 1 as a precursor to a lot of what happens in ED 2. By cutting things out (how he arrived to the cabin, and what happened to his girlfriend in Evil Dead 2), you could also splice that film in. It would be weird though, because the tone was pretty different, but I would say that's also the case between ED 2 and AOD.

Evil Dead 2 really begins at the point that Ash is first possessed. The first 8 minutes or so with him arriving at the cabin are just a truncated retelling of the basic plot of Evil Dead 1 because they couldn't use the footage from the first film to do a recap. People always seem to think that ED 2 is a remake of ED 1 because of that, but it's not. That's why there's no Necronomicon in ED 2, just the spare pages the professor's daughter has, because the Necronomicon burned in ED1.

 

[Khev]

I think I saw Army of Darkness first, when it first came on VHS. But around that same time, I saw Evil Dead when it aired on Sci-Fi channel during Halloween. When I saw it, I was blown away, and thought it was such a great kind of horror movie that connected with me way better than the more mainstream horror stuff that was out there. I watched ED2 a bit later on, when I managed to track down a tape of it at the rental place across town that had all the obscure stuff (anime, Peter Jackson's stuff, Cronenberg, etc.), and it was all I hoped it would be.

As I got older, I started thinking AOD was pretty cheesy, but I rewatched it a couple of years ago and could better appreciate what it was trying to do, and loved it. I need to watch it again one of these days. I can't imagine what it's like discovering these as an adult, but I'm glad you finally gave it a shot Khev. I think each movie succeeds in its own, distinct way. ED 2 is considered the height of the franchise, but like Turd, I think the original Evil Dead is a pretty special movie that's a bit underrated. Like the Thing, I think it does a really great job of establishing an effective and memorable atmosphere for the story it's trying to tell.

One of the main reasons I avoided ED1 and ED2 all these years was because a friend told me about the whole tree branch thing in the first one. I can stomach some pretty nasty stuff but I avoid movies if I know they have graphic rapes in them. I laughed all through Peter Jackson's Dead Alive in the theater but for all the gore that movie still had a lot of heart. I was glad that ED2 was pretty close to Dead Alive and shied away from the disturbing/violating stuff.

 

[karamazov80]

It's really not as bad as it sounds Or. . .maybe it is, I dunno.

Evil Dead 2 really begins at the point that Ash is first possessed. The first 8 minutes or so with him arriving at the cabin are just a truncated retelling of the basic plot of Evil Dead 1 because they couldn't use the footage from the first film to do a recap. People always seem to think that ED 2 is a remake of ED 1 because of that, but it's not. That's why there's no Necronomicon in ED 2, just the spare pages the professor's daughter has, because the Necronomicon burned in ED1.

Right, that's why I think it works pretty well, though I thought he still had some interaction with his dead girlfriend after he gets possessed in ED 2.

 

[Scareb]

Most horror back then was fairly harmless compared to today. I mean there were definitely some gruesome moments in films back then but not like now with torture ****. Hell, even the remakes tree **** scene wasn't as brutal as today's standards can be.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

It's really not as bad as it sounds Or. . .maybe it is, I dunno.


Right, that's why I think it works pretty well, though I thought he still had some interaction with his dead girlfriend after he gets possessed in ED 2.

He does, but it's still meant to be the same Linda from the first movie. That's why she's "killed" the same way (decap), and why they had to bring back that cheap necklace.

 

[amstel]

I gotta re-watch ED2. I think the only reason I'm not appreciating the series is because I never really watched them as a kid. I watched mainly Jason/Freddy/Myers and whoever else, over and over and over. So it's not as nostalgic to me as some people.

Though I really am enjoying AoD, however cheesy it really is.

I'm with you on this. In fact I have not seen ED, ED2 or AoD. I might will someday. Its just that those cheesy horror-comedy films isn't a favorite genre for me. Myers/Jason/Freddy will always remain the best. Although I did enjoy The Ghostbusters, Critters, Gremlins and to name a few, I still prefer the dark side of the horror films.

 

[DarkMario616]

Yah I prefer slasher horror over any kind of spectral ghost horror.

But I enjoyed AoD which I thought was the most popular but apparently ED2 is.

I went and pre ordered those Mego Ash figures from NECA. Really like his overall character.

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[DarkMario616]

Don't mean to double post but I just watched the 2013 version of Evil Dead.

What were the complaints surrounding this movie? I thought it was pretty solid, just the ending seemed rushed (like in every damn horror movie as of late). I just think the ending

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was a tad bit ridiculous when David tried reviving Mia like 2 seconds after he burried her. If anything, she should have just came back alive as a demon, would have been more amusing.

 

[Scareb]

Don't mean to double post but I just watched the 2013 version of Evil Dead.

What were the complaints surrounding this movie? I thought it was pretty solid, just the ending seemed rushed (like in every damn horror movie as of late). I just think the ending

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was a tad bit ridiculous when David tried reviving Mia like 2 seconds after he burried her. If anything, she should have just came back alive as a demon, would have been more amusing.

I honestly thought that as remakes go, it actually wasn't half bad. They didn't shy away from anything or try to make it so little ******* thirteen year olds can see it which was nice.

It was a completely unnecessary remake but it could of been terrible which it wasn't.

 

[brucecamblzchin]

Sideshow Evil dead 2

I'm with you on this. In fact I have not seen ED, ED2 or AoD. I might will someday. Its just that those cheesy horror-comedy films isn't a favorite genre for me. Myers/Jason/Freddy will always remain the best. Although I did enjoy The Ghostbusters, Critters, Gremlins and to name a few, I still prefer the dark side of the horror films.

Wtf?!

Who are these people that have never watched the ****ing Evil Dead films?

What the actual ****.

Are you guys literally 9 years old?

 

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[amstel]

Wtf?!

Who are these people that have never watched the ****ing Evil Dead films?

What the actual ****.

Are you guys literally 9 years old?

If it makes you feel better to mock me. Then so be it. Moving on...

 

[Rydeck]

I honestly thought that as remakes go, it actually wasn't half bad. They didn't shy away from anything or try to make it so little ******* thirteen year olds can see it which was nice.

It was a completely unnecessary remake but it could of been terrible which it wasn't.

I recall reading that The Evil Dead didn't turn out to be as scary as Raimi, Tapert and Campbell intended, so the remake is more of a throwback to their original intentions. From that perspective, the remake is not completely unnecessary except that they could have made Evil Dead II more of a pure horror film rather than comedic horror if they really wanted to make a scary movie.

Despite my initial skepticism, I enjoyed the remake, but the various fan service elements in the movie just made me miss Ash. If the proposed follow-up films tie Mia's and Ash's continuities together, then that would 'legitimize', so to speak, the 2013 film by making it a side-sequel to the originals rather than a reboot.

 

[amstel]

Yah I prefer slasher horror over any kind of spectral ghost horror.

But I enjoyed AoD which I thought was the most popular but apparently ED2 is.

I went and pre ordered those Mego Ash figures from NECA. Really like his overall character.

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I'm going to have to catch up and watch ED, ED2 and AoD. I remember I did watch the remake last year. It was OK and like you said the ending feels like it was rushed. Anyway I'm sure the classic ones are better, they always are. Looking forward to seeing what the hype are all about.

Yeah those Ash figures looks cool especially with that chainsaw hand. I liked Beto's full figure.