Solo: A Star Wars Story

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Except that it doesn't solve the problem if Disney assumes that the problem or part of the problem was Alden and Emilia. Who knows what the company's take away will be with all of this.



Obviously the brand bounced back with TFA after the Clone Wars movie cratered at the box office but this is definitely uncharted territory for SW. I'm sure Disney is thrilled that the success of Episode IX is partially on the shoulders of the guy who wrote Justice League, lol.

if they added jabba and Boba i would even wanna watch it. specially if they were big parts of the movie. i would definitely wanna watch that.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

I know this isn't going to save the movie or anything, but I was talking to several parents while waiting to pick up my kid at school. None of them had seen it, but said they were going to. many said there were just too many movies coming out at once and the holiday was too busy. This, of course is only partially the blame. Everything from TLJ backlash, apathy towards Solo being recast as anybody but Ford, and TLJ only having come out 5 months before. All of this came together to form a poisonous cocktail for the movie.

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[JAWS]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Maybe I just care more about what happened before the OT than after.

Yeah.. I feel the same way.. I guess part of that is because Jedi ended perfectly and there was a story to be told with Vader.

I was not against the ST but I was not as excited. After seeing the first two I officially could care less.

 

[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Yeah you really did follow him down a dark path and then he just.... Left you...

He shouldn't be surprised though since I de-canonized TFA after RO came out, lol. But then I enjoyed TLJ so much that I allowed the ST back into the fold...for a while. Solo just crushed any desire I have for anything but the happiest of endings for these heroes and ROTJ provides that. I just don't see what Abrams will be able to do to change my mind this time but never say never I guess, lol. I thought that nothing would be a tougher sell than a recast Han Solo prequel and yet here we are.

I do still think that on a pure entertainment level TLJ is definitely still more good than bad but I just prefer the celebration at the end of ROTJ to be the true canon end of the Saga.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Its INDIANA JOAN



J O A N........

Get it through your thick heads

I would watch INDIANA BONES.... A Sexual Story.


Could you imagine the taglines:

If *** has a name... it must be Indiana Bones.

Indiana Bones... Around the globe and back again.

Indiana Bones... and the Raiders of the Dark Hole

Indiana Bones... and the Temple of ****s

Indiana Bones... and the Crystal Skull-****

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Obviously I will be there for IX but I do prefer more OT era movies.

They chickened out with Solo though it needed MORE OT villains.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Obviously the brand bounced back with TFA after the Clone Wars movie cratered at the box office but this is definitely uncharted territory for SW. I'm sure Disney is thrilled that the success of Episode IX is partially on the shoulders of the guy who wrote Justice League, lol.

For the last time, the "Clone Wars movie" was two cartoon TV episodes (of a Cartoon Network series) edited together to feature length. To compare that to a mainstream SW release is absurd.

Also FYI, the budget of that animated "film" - based on per episode budgets of the first season it was culled from - would have been in the $2-3m range total (yes with extra marketing and distribution costs though) and the film earned almost $70m at the box office. Yeah, it was junk as a theatrical release, but I'm guessing all GL was doing was launching a TV series.

 

[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Obviously I will be there for IX but I do prefer more OT era movies.

They chickened out with Solo though it needed MORE OT villains.

Well since my least favorite scene in RO was Dr. Evazan and Walrusman I'm fine with no OT villains in Solo.

But think about this, Solo isn't just the first live-action SW movie to bomb but it was actually a good movie! It's not like it was garbage and fans demanded a higher standard, no it's a straight up good flick that still failed. What might that mean for *any* SW flick going forward?? Sony must really be sharpening it's claws with Jumanji 2. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron said screw it and moved Avatar 2 up to Christmas 2019, lol.

If the extremely well done Solo tanked what will happen if Episode IX genuinely sucks?

 

[guyver1]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

So are they saying about the opening weekend tally being worse than TLJ

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Well since my least favorite scene in RO was Dr. Evazan and Walrusman I'm fine with no OT villains in Solo.

But think about this, Solo isn't just the first live-action SW movie to bomb but it was actually a good movie! It's not like it was garbage and fans demanded a higher standard, no it's a straight up good flick that still failed. What might that mean for *any* SW flick going forward?? Sony must really be sharpening it's claws with Jumanji 2. I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron said screw it and moved Avatar 2 up to Christmas 2019, lol.

If the extremely well done Solo tanked what will happen if Episode IX genuinely sucks?

Well that means we need our 4K unaltered OT and we walk away into the sunset along with RO/Solo and TPM because of Maul’s cameo.

But i’ll be honest I have zero faith in Abrams as from day one I wasn’t happy with his announcement for TFA.

 

[spindrift]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Boba movie won't happen- at least not without Jedi and other SW staples in it- these stand alone films are going to get shelved

 

[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Well that means we need our 4K unaltered OT and we walk away into the sunset along with RO/Solo and TPM because of Maul’s cameo.

That's both a and a lol

But i’ll be honest I have zero faith in Abrams as from day one I wasn’t happy with his announcement for TFA.

And Abrams' greatest weakness is always finales. The best parts of Super 8 and TFA were the beginnings when he was setting everything up. But with Episode IX there's no more setup, the whole freaking thing is going to be one big finale. Written by him and the JL guy.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

He shouldn't be surprised though since I de-canonized TFA after RO came out, lol. But then I enjoyed TLJ so much that I allowed the ST back into the fold...for a while. Solo just crushed any desire I have for anything but the happiest of endings for these heroes and ROTJ provides that. I just don't see what Abrams will be able to do to change my mind this time but never say never I guess, lol. I thought that nothing would be a tougher sell than a recast Han Solo prequel and yet here we are.

I do still think that on a pure entertainment level TLJ is definitely still more good than bad but I just prefer the celebration at the end of ROTJ to be the true canon end of the Saga.

Yes. Yes

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

That's both a and a lol



And Abrams' greatest weakness is always finales. The best parts of Super 8 and TFA were the beginnings when he was setting everything up. But with Episode IX there's no more setup, the whole freaking thing is going to be one big finale. Written by him and the JL guy.

Ughhhh

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

And Abrams' greatest weakness is always finales. The best parts of Super 8 and TFA were the beginnings when he was setting everything up. But with Episode IX there's no more setup, the whole freaking thing is going to be one big finale. Written by him and the JL guy.

That's because in one he was channeling Spielberg, the other he was channeling Lucas. It's kinda easy when all you're doing is stylistically and story-wise aping masters in their most classic movies.

 

[Vault Boy]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Another pathological defense of the Kennedy program.

'Star Wars' should resist bowing to the force of its most vocal fans, CNN

Disney and Lucasfilm are dealing with the first conspicuous setback of their five-year-old corporate marriage, as "Solo: A Star Wars Story" has fallen far short of gargantuan box-office expectations. While the studio ponders whether that requires adjusting course, a small, rebellious and inordinately vocal quadrant of the fan community is delighting in -- and deriving an unfortunate message from -- those woes.

But it's beyond naive to think a subsection of fans can dictate Disney's broader strategy, since the studio didn't plunk down $4 billion for Lucasfilm to let it sit idle, or allow a small mob with Internet pitchforks to call the shots.

As politicians have discovered, there are tradeoffs involved in allowing the loudest and most belligerent voices -- those prone to speaking in Sith-like absolutes -- to define the terms of debate.

Hearing and being sensitive to what various fans want makes sense, but bowing to the force of a vocal contingent -- one that's perhaps a small minority -- is a road fraught with peril. As Han solo himself once said, it's not always possible to fly by committee.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/04/entertainment/star-wars-fans-analysis/index.html

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Another pathological defense of the Kennedy program.

Wow, that couple of hundred intolerant troll-neckbeards certainly gets some pretty persistent and highest-level attention for such a tiny and insignificant group of "fans." Every one of these articles uses the words "small" or "tiny" - yet the article is like the 500th in major outlets discussing this supposedly teeny-tiny, insignificant group.

Just this ONE article alone discusses any opposition to Disney's SW films with the terms/phrases (to be read as insignificant, online, crazy):

"small"
"inordinately vocal quadrant of the fan community"
"like-minded brethren online"
"a magnified vision of their numbers"
"this subset of the fan base"
"there's no real way to quantify how vast this portion of the "Star Wars" fan universe is"
"deluge of web-traffic-driven hot takes"
"a slightly delusional quality "
"the victory lap being taken in comment sections and online forums"
"a subsection of fans "
"the loudest and most belligerent voices"
"the force of a vocal contingent -- one that's perhaps a small minority"

"perhaps"? But, hey - Lowry did at least term Disney the "Empire" and earlier (perhaps inadvertently) refer to those fans as "rebellious" so he's getting the picture, even if unconsciously.

It's certainly possible that disappointment surrounding "The Last Jedi" triggered a backlash that played a major role in "Solo's" weak opening.

You think?

As the old saying goes, your franchise is only as good as it's last film.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Removing all the politics and Kennedy drama it is pretty significant that the first SW movie to feature a different actor playing one of the core 3 OT human characters is the one that bombed.

I wonder how that will impact their decision for no cgi Leia in IX.

 

[Khev]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

And Abrams' greatest weakness is always finales. The best parts of Super 8 and TFA were the beginnings when he was setting everything up. But with Episode IX there's no more setup, the whole freaking thing is going to be one big finale. Written by him and the JL guy.

Ughhhh

Your response totally reminded me of Ralphie in "A Christmas Story."

"Oh fuuuuuudge" lol.

Yes. Yes

 

[Vault Boy]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Wow, that couple of hundred intolerant troll-neckbeards certainly gets some pretty persistent and highest-level attention for such a tiny and insignificant group of "fans."

Every one of these articles uses the words "small" or "tiny" - yet the article is like the 500th in major outlets discussing this supposedly teeny-tiny, insignificant group.

But, hey - Lowry did at least term Disney the "Empire" and earlier (perhaps inadvertently) refer to those fans as "rebellious" so he's getting the picture, even if unconsciously.

It is very bizarre. Fascistic undertones. "Send out the death squads" or something like that.