Sony Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
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CallMeTheDoctor
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
Miles is much more serious, lately though, they have loosened him a bit and he has a Peter Parker vibe. I hated that they made him mixed just to appeal to SJW, but reading it, I liked it; and being Latino, it didn't persuade me to like him for that.
He also has cooler powers, while he still maintains a lot of what Spidey is, he has a "venom" touch, which essentially shocks people, and he also has a camouflage ability.
To me though, he is more of a Nightwing, rather than Batman. Peter is always Spidey, and nothing wrong with Miles, but he isn't and will never be, the definitive Spidey.
Miles is much more serious, lately though, they have loosened him a bit and he has a Peter Parker vibe. I hated that they made him mixed just to appeal to SJW, but reading it, I liked it; and being Latino, it didn't persuade me to like him for that.
He also has cooler powers, while he still maintains a lot of what Spidey is, he has a "venom" touch, which essentially shocks people, and he also has a camouflage ability.
To me though, he is more of a Nightwing, rather than Batman. Peter is always Spidey, and nothing wrong with Miles, but he isn't and will never be, the definitive Spidey.
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
Miles is a great character, as he was originally conceived, a successor to Peter after he falls in battle. Until they screwed him up and brought him into the 616 universe it was a great book. It was Marvels’s Batman Beyond. It doesn’t work unless he is carrying on Spider-man’s legacy, not fighting with him as Sidekick type. It’s like forcing Terry McGunniess Batman to come back to the past and fight alongside Bruce. It makes no sense. Hopefully, the movie will follow the original concept.
Miles is a great character, as he was originally conceived, a successor to Peter after he falls in battle. Until they screwed him up and brought him into the 616 universe it was a great book. It was Marvels’s Batman Beyond. It doesn’t work unless he is carrying on Spider-man’s legacy, not fighting with him as Sidekick type. It’s like forcing Terry McGunniess Batman to come back to the past and fight alongside Bruce. It makes no sense. Hopefully, the movie will follow the original concept.
CallMeTheDoctor
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
I agree. Peter would have to be dead, because most of what made Miles was the fact he wasn't trying to replace Peter, but recognized that New York needs a Spidey. Plus a lot was centered on him standing out by himself and not be shadowed as a copycat Spidey.
If it is Spider Verse, I'm interested. Plenty of awesome alternate Spider-Men/Women
I agree. Peter would have to be dead, because most of what made Miles was the fact he wasn't trying to replace Peter, but recognized that New York needs a Spidey. Plus a lot was centered on him standing out by himself and not be shadowed as a copycat Spidey.
If it is Spider Verse, I'm interested. Plenty of awesome alternate Spider-Men/Women
Kamandi
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
I liked the trailer more than I would've expected. I haven't followed Spidey in ages so I won't pretend to be an expert. I do think this forecasts big things for Marvel Animation and features.
A friend and I were talking about how WB half-assed the JLA features and wouldn't it be amazing if Bruce Timm were given the reigns over a larger scale project, live action or animation. WB has people who actually know how to craft a superhero story. Instead we keep getting Zack the Hack.
Look at Pixar. They put in the effort. What does WB do to answer them? Lego Movies.
If WB made a feature quality CG film where they spent real money and did a JLA story right it would be epic. Instead they do direct to video and occasionally dress one up for a brief theatrical run. Not the same.
I love - LOVE - The Dini/Timm-verse. Imagine the potential if they were to work on a $150 million dollar feature. What if they adapted Kingdom Come and went high-end with everything?
And here's Marvel. Say whatever you will about the Spiderverse but Marvel is spending real money and testing the waters for feature animation. That animation has a few rough edges but the final product is a year out.
I'm rambling.
I liked the trailer more than I would've expected. I haven't followed Spidey in ages so I won't pretend to be an expert. I do think this forecasts big things for Marvel Animation and features.
A friend and I were talking about how WB half-assed the JLA features and wouldn't it be amazing if Bruce Timm were given the reigns over a larger scale project, live action or animation. WB has people who actually know how to craft a superhero story. Instead we keep getting Zack the Hack.
Look at Pixar. They put in the effort. What does WB do to answer them? Lego Movies.
If WB made a feature quality CG film where they spent real money and did a JLA story right it would be epic. Instead they do direct to video and occasionally dress one up for a brief theatrical run. Not the same.
I love - LOVE - The Dini/Timm-verse. Imagine the potential if they were to work on a $150 million dollar feature. What if they adapted Kingdom Come and went high-end with everything?
And here's Marvel. Say whatever you will about the Spiderverse but Marvel is spending real money and testing the waters for feature animation. That animation has a few rough edges but the final product is a year out.
I'm rambling.
Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
It looks good, and it appears like Marvel is making a run for conquering the animation market over DC. They crushed DC in movies, crushed them in TV (ARROW and Flash are now just CW dramas with superhero paint on them) and this is the last competition between them and their rival.
I wonder how much control Sony has over this considering the recent Spidey deal. I’m sure if it does well, we might see Disney animation and maybe PIXAR working on a potential Marvel animation movie.
It looks good, and it appears like Marvel is making a run for conquering the animation market over DC. They crushed DC in movies, crushed them in TV (ARROW and Flash are now just CW dramas with superhero paint on them) and this is the last competition between them and their rival.
I wonder how much control Sony has over this considering the recent Spidey deal. I’m sure if it does well, we might see Disney animation and maybe PIXAR working on a potential Marvel animation movie.
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
I'm not a big Miles fan, but I thought the trailer looked awesome. I loved seeing Miles in Jordans.
Hoping Nike drops a Spider-Man colorway. 
I'm not a big Miles fan, but I thought the trailer looked awesome. I loved seeing Miles in Jordans.
Hoping Nike drops a Spider-Man colorway.
CallMeTheDoctor
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
Again, that's all relative. Despite mainly being drama, DC still has more of following with TV. Inhumans, hasn't done well at all; AOS has lost their following in S2, and Agent Carter got canceled. Even Supergirl is doing better and that's the least loved series of DC. Don't understand people putting streaming on there, it isn't television. With DC doing a streaming service as well as Disney, comparison can be drawn. As of now, DC still runs the television division over Disney.
For films, that's all relative to which film, certainly plenty of films have done very Well, box office wise, but can t be said by audience approval. Plus, Marvel has a few misses in their film roster, and you are comparing about 15 films to the current 5 of the DCEU. If we compare Nolan Trilogy or GL or Superman Returns, then would it not be fair to include Punishers, Elektra, and Daredevil? Or the F4? Or X-Men?
I'll admit, I'm mainly a DC fanboy, but I think it needs to be compared fairly. DC has just as good animation films and animation television as does Disney.
Again, that's all relative. Despite mainly being drama, DC still has more of following with TV. Inhumans, hasn't done well at all; AOS has lost their following in S2, and Agent Carter got canceled. Even Supergirl is doing better and that's the least loved series of DC. Don't understand people putting streaming on there, it isn't television. With DC doing a streaming service as well as Disney, comparison can be drawn. As of now, DC still runs the television division over Disney.
For films, that's all relative to which film, certainly plenty of films have done very Well, box office wise, but can t be said by audience approval. Plus, Marvel has a few misses in their film roster, and you are comparing about 15 films to the current 5 of the DCEU. If we compare Nolan Trilogy or GL or Superman Returns, then would it not be fair to include Punishers, Elektra, and Daredevil? Or the F4? Or X-Men?
I'll admit, I'm mainly a DC fanboy, but I think it needs to be compared fairly. DC has just as good animation films and animation television as does Disney.
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
How did Marvel crush DC in TV?
Regardless of your opinions on The Flash and Arrow, they are still hit TV shows.
How did Marvel crush DC in TV?
Regardless of your opinions on The Flash and Arrow, they are still hit TV shows.
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Kamandi
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Compare Arrow and Daredevil. Case closed.
Compare Arrow and Daredevil. Case closed.
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Then compare Arrow to Inhumans, Iron Fist, The Defenders, Agents of Shield, and Agent Peggy Carter....
Then compare Arrow to Inhumans, Iron Fist, The Defenders, Agents of Shield, and Agent Peggy Carter....
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
From my understanding of the deal this is 100% Sony and was part of the stipulation of letting Marvel have the live action Spider-man in the MCU. If Marvel was to get the live action Peter Parker Spider-Man then Sony would be allowed to make an animated film not starring Peter Parker, hence Miles, and this film is part of Sony's plan to expand their Spider-Man brand beyond Peter. I don't believe Marvel has much creative input in this Spider-Man as they do with the MCU.
From my understanding of the deal this is 100% Sony and was part of the stipulation of letting Marvel have the live action Spider-man in the MCU. If Marvel was to get the live action Peter Parker Spider-Man then Sony would be allowed to make an animated film not starring Peter Parker, hence Miles, and this film is part of Sony's plan to expand their Spider-Man brand beyond Peter. I don't believe Marvel has much creative input in this Spider-Man as they do with the MCU.
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Can't.
One is a long running series on broadcast television network.
The other is one season worth of web series on streaming service.
Can't.
One is a long running series on broadcast television network.
The other is one season worth of web series on streaming service.
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Ahh no wonder this actually looks interesting
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Ahh no wonder this actually looks interesting
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SuperJ300
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Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
Looks cool!
I see all the non comic fans are panicking thinking Peter Parker has gone black!! Lol
It’s going to be interesting on people’s reactions to this!
Looks cool!
I see all the non comic fans are panicking thinking Peter Parker has gone black!! Lol
It’s going to be interesting on people’s reactions to this!
Re: Sony Spider-Man Animated film (2018)
DC crushes Marvel on TV not even a debate. Your example of daredevil is silly. Get to 6 seasons of high quality tv then compare Arrow and Daredevil.
BTW iron fist, inhumans and agents of shield are all horrible shows and even the team up is bang on average.
DC crushes Marvel on TV not even a debate. Your example of daredevil is silly. Get to 6 seasons of high quality tv then compare Arrow and Daredevil.
BTW iron fist, inhumans and agents of shield are all horrible shows and even the team up is bang on average.
