spidey 3 tonner

[Agent0028]

These look pretty good - normally Tonner stuff doesn't attempt likenesses but with the Potter items and these they obviously have different sculpts. The clothes are what these dolls are about, and they are pretty successful at that.

So is the doll itself almost more like a mannequin to show off the quality of the clothing? Genuine question, not trying to a smart ass, I'm just curious what the draw of these is. They just don't seem all that great to me.

 

[Batty]

My point is, is that's it bad for their rep/image. How? Not to us, we know what's up and collect here (though it does really make me lose some respect for them) but people who don't know much about SS. They'll see these and think THEY made them. Sure it says Tonner, but the mass market is stupid, they'll see DISTRIBUTED BY SIDESHOW and whenever they hear about SS connect them to these. Sure they'll make money off the weird cat people who collect Tonner, but will they get a crossover audience? I doubt it. Why would some weirdo who's into Tonner want a PF Jason or much of anything else SS pumps out? They just won'r go for ANYTHING that SS makes, and vice versa. Medicom, Hot Toys, GREAT cross over marketing there, even Electric Tiki. But Tonner, just a bad mvoe I think. Whatever though, right, aint my money.

Are you calling Dave a "weirdo cat person"?

 

[lcummins]

are all opinons welcomed here? if not, shame shame shame on you. sometimes honesty is brutal.

First off, these comments aren't directed at anyone in particular, even though I used your quote to work with...

Of course all opinions are welcomed... but there is no need to bash the people who like these just because we don't. The opinion is just as effective if it states, "I don't like these; not something I would collect" and doesn't have to make fun of the people who do or the company itself. Give constructive comments, state your "civil" opinion, and move on. That is all I was saying.

Honesty doesn't have to be brutal to be true. These "dolls" are extremely well made and good quality from what I can see in the pictures, and have heard from those who own some, so they aren't "crap" to the people who like them.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Yea, I have a few of them. The reason Sideshow is associating themselves with this 'crap' is that it is wildly successful. Their Potter stuff has gone through the roof, which opened them up to other licenses like Marvel, DC and PotC.

And saying "honesty is brutal" is incredibly myopic - your opinion is no more correct than anyone else's.

To answer the question about the style - they aren't mannequins, they have basic articulation at knees, hips, shoulders, elbows, etc. But they are designed to show off the clothes and to be able to use one basic body for multiple sets of outfits. You know - the kind of thing some call for SSC to do with 1/6 figures.

 

[Agent0028]

So from what I'm understanding the focus is really more on the clothes than the doll itself. I can see how that would be cool for the outfits from Harry Potter and POTC. I think it'll be neat to see some of these when Sideshow distributes them.

 

[pixletwin]

Once again its the same dynamic basically as the whole Medicom vs. Star Wars debate.

Different collectors collect for different reasons. People who are collecting Tonner are looking for a different quality than what an action doll has. They are two totally different audiences. (with exception of a few who walk on the wild-side like Dave).

 

[nash]

Tonner is wildly successful to which audience though?

They look like barbie dolls that 5 year olds would want.

The Backstreet Boys are wildly successful but look at their targeted audience. it's no wonder when they go after the kids to teenie-boppers.

sorry i just don't consider these adult collectibles. i may be wrong but thats my opinion of them.

 

[CAhobbit]

There's actually quite a market out there for items that seem more like toys for children that adults collect. There are whole conventions that cater to 'doll' collectors (ie: antiques and new creations). Whole 'dolls', parts for 'dolls' (wigs, eyes, paint etc...) and so on. Tonner creations aren't going to interest those who aren't into that 'look' (ie: more doll like). But there's a whole market out there (that's a pretty big market) of adults who collect items that are very similar to what Tonner creates.

 

[PosterBoyKelly]

Oh believe me, I KNOW there's an adult audience, but what's the point if there's no crossover? Most of us don't dig these, and most people who collect things like this probably won't dig on most of SS stuff? Sure they'll make some cash off it, but why go through the trouble? Plus like I said, I think it'll hurt their image a little. And yes, image matters in buisness.

 

[CAhobbit]

There're not my cup of tea (though if they came out with LOTR ones with good enough costumes I might be swayed) but I know Tonner has a good rep. at this point (with people that are into their items) so I just can't see SS suddenly being hurt (so to speak) because they are distributing items that don't fit the look of what they distribute already. To many the tonner figures are collectibles and as such SS is just offering another variety of colletible. Obviously it's not a collectible for everyone but offering these may bring more business to SS. Only time will tell I suppose.

 

[Amanaman]

Comparing Tonner to Medi/SS/HT is like pitting a rabbit against a pack of wolves.

Fine, there's a market for it, I'll give you that - but the fact is, they are dinosaurs in the technical aspects. These guys are used to making Barbie-type dolls, and never before had faced competition - much less, the brutal competition coming from the Far East.

It's almost scary how much HT and Medicom have raised the bar for 1/6 figures in recent years. Sideshow's only problem is that Art Buck body, but at least they some of the best sculptors and tailors in the industry.

I can totally understand the appeal of these "doll style" figures, just like those SW nesting dolls and the Vader nutcracker, but nope, not my cup o' tea.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

 

[Scarlet]

 

[eighthsamurai]

my first post on this message board - this is an emotional moment
thanks to the mediworld peeps for directing me here.

i am going to get all 4 of these babies. i'm going to gel peter's hair into that golden age of grotesque era marylin manson thing he had going on in the movie - attach strings to his arms and legs, go to my favourite pizza hut and recreate the famous dancing scene. i can just see it now - all the chicks there will totally dig on my little dancing peter. he will be so boss wicked.

as for gwen and mj - i have plans for them....MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

no but seriously, these are rubbish. i won't get any. although gwen does look the best of the lot. are these expensive because they're anatomically accurate by any chance?

 

[DarkArtist81]

Once again its the same dynamic basically as the whole Medicom vs. Star Wars debate.

Different collectors collect for different reasons. People who are collecting Tonner are looking for a different quality than what an action doll has. They are two totally different audiences. (with exception of a few who walk on the wild-side like Dave).

Pix speaks wise words....

I think they look a bit creepy, but that is my own mindset... due to my own collecting parameters. I can appreciate the artistry needed to make them, so I respect the company for it's efforts.... But still I wouldn't buy them if they were on sale for 5 bucks.

I would feel like Emo Parker at a Nine Inch Nails concert.... reaaaaally awkward.

 

[tylerd]

goeooooooorge. i come in and find my son using his body like an amusement park!

 

[rw23]

Pix speaks wise words....

I think they look a bit creepy, but that is my own mindset... due to my own collecting parameters. I can appreciate the artistry needed to make them, so I respect the company for it's efforts.... But still I wouldn't buy them if they were on sale for 5 bucks.

I would feel like Emo Parker at a Nine Inch Nails concert.... reaaaaally awkward.

This may be true but why make Spiderman, POTC, or DC characters at all? Your not going to have to many cross-over collectors getting these. Doll collectors don't usually go out looking for superhero/movie dolls.

 

[Darklord Dave]

but why make Spiderman, POTC, or DC characters at all? Your not going to have to many cross-over collectors getting these. Doll collectors don't usually go out looking for superhero/movie dolls.

As I said before - the HP dolls have done really, really well. I expect these other licenses to do so as well.

 

[rw23]

As I said before - the HP dolls have done really, really well. I expect these other licenses to do so as well.

I don't doubt that they are high quality DOLLS but doll collectors aren't looking for Spiderman and Superman they're looking for babies dressed up as bees and flowers!

 

[Seth Gecko]

Siderman