Good episode, but was pretty much just one teeming with nostalgia that involved the three friends reminiscing about the good ol’ days and singing each other’s praises. Which is pretty much why I liked it, because as with Hugh in the previous episode like another poster mentioned, it’s nice to finally see people who are ecstatic to see Picard that would do anything for him without him having to ask.
Dude. No. Voyager is still the ****test Trek ever. If for one reason: the wasted potential of a cool set up.
Granted. This show's writing is all over the place. The main problem for me: new characters are drama queens. And the use of F-bombs comes across to me like, 'look at us, we can swear!'
The show is just ok. One dimensional Romulans are a big issue. Aside from Elnor. He's the one interesting Romulan. Narrisa (sister to bro dude Romulan) is such an awful charicture, I'm almost embarassed. If she had a mustache, she would be twirling it every scene. lol
The show is wasting some major talent. Harry Treadaway is an incredible actor. Frustrates me that he is given so little to work with. Alison Pill is a very talented actress, but lord I want to punch her character in the face.
Voyager was my entry to Star Trek, so it will always hold a "special place" in my heart. I do admit it has its bad times, but there are some good episodes there.
I just finished watching the DS9 Documentary. DS9 was something I only really appreciated much later. Back then it was Voyager, then I got into TOS, then TNG. DS9 I only really watched after college.
Back to Picard, this was another episode I liked. Patrick Stewart is much more like the Picard I remembered in this one. They do a lot of exposition in this episode, and I don't really understand how the characters came to their theories/conclusions on what's happening but the Picard/Soji, Soji/Jurati and Raffi/Rios interactions made up for that IMO. Not sure where they are headed with the Borg story, but it left me intrigued so that's good I guess.
This episode felt like it was rushing to set the pieces up for the finale. So far I'm ok where this is at and I'm looking forward to how the pieces will fall together.
My issues with Voyager were not the cast of characters or the actors. I just feel like Voyager could have been so much better. With the original set up of some among the crew being Federation and some being Marquis. But by EP 5, all of that was placed far on the back burner. Or seemingly. We could have had a DS9-level complexity with Voyager, had Braga and Berman truly explored the original dynamic. I feel like they placed it safe. And the Kazon sucked ass.
So inferior they cannot replicate water, but have apparently spread out through an entire galaxy. LOL - no. I know I'm not being fair, I believe the Kazon was phased out after season 1? I haven't watched a single episode since its original air date.
As for this episode of Picard, I will say this: the line, 'have you ******ed her yet?' or something like that should have no place in TNG era. Every time this show drops an F-bomb, it just seems out-of-place. Picard could have really explored the Romulan culture in a way TNG show did so well for the Klingons, but was not meant to be. The scene with the Romulan dude around the campfire with the new crew was a cool scene. I wanted more like that. Sorry, I am terrible at remembering names.
I think the last 10 min of Picard is going to cause a lot of divisive reactions.
As for this episode of Picard, I will say this: the line, 'have you ******ed her yet?' or something like that should have no place in TNG era. Every time this show drops an F-bomb, it just seems out-of-place
The last number of major scenes were the only stuff I somewhat liked although I'm tentatively expecting that certain youtube channels will persuade me it was all complete codswallop.
Data's hairline seemed to keep changing, in some shots it definitely looked too low making his forehead too small
Yeah I'm smack in the middle in terms of liking or hating the last half. I loved it because:
This is the Jean Luc I remembered. A man who could reach out with his empathy and compassion to compel someone to do the right thing. It was a great send-off to Picard and Data.
I hate it because:
They resurrected him. Really... if you're going to kill him off, do it. I know you want a Season 2, and likely a lot of people are getting that free 1 month of CBS just for Picard so you want them to subscribe fully. But c'mon..... It cheapens the send-off. Ending with him and Data in a simulation together would have been good enough IMO. If you were going to resurrect him, do it in Season 2 at least.
That's all really. Overall I liked this season. I'd watch a Season 2 if it comes out.
It seems they've really drawn a line under the whole Data thing and avoided the temptation to bring him back beyond the manner in which he appeared in this season.
But then they go and
do a fake Picard death and resurrect him in the same episode for the feels. I didn't really buy it coming from these new characters. I don't feel they've personally known Picard for long enough to care as much as they seemed to - with exception of Rafi (sp?) but even
there it's somewhat of a fake history between the characters as far as we the audience is concerned. We've only seen what they've shown us in these 10 episodes.
The biggest genuine feels naturally derive from interactions with actual legacy characters from ST:TNG - thus the Data scenes and the Riker/Troi stuff
I also think the bonds between the various other characters seem forced. I don't know why Romulan Elrond appeared to care about Hugh or Seven for example. Is it just his nature to latch onto people he has known for all of 5 minutes?
As far as the story details of Episode 10 - really looking forward to RLM's take on it, I can see them absolutely destroying it. To me, so much seemed wrong with it - I mentioned hot evil romulan girl - I'm struggling to remember why and how she was even in this episode? I actually thought she was killed by some of the Borg in a previous one. What purpose did she serve here?
was she really brought back just so she could be killed by Seven? What's her brother going to think of that? In fact, where was he by episode's end? I can't even remember.
Unfortunately I think this show was closer to Bay-tier than Star Trek should rightly be.
If there's a second season I'll probably still give it a look but man I just don't like what they seem to think Trek has to be now between the Abrams-verse, Discovery and Picard.
Yeah I'm smack in the middle in terms of liking or hating the last half. I loved it because:
This is the Jean Luc I remembered. A man who could reach out with his empathy and compassion to compel someone to do the right thing. It was a great send-off to Picard and Data.
I hate it because:
They resurrected him. Really... if you're going to kill him off, do it. I know you want a Season 2, and likely a lot of people are getting that free 1 month of CBS just for Picard so you want them to subscribe fully. But c'mon..... It cheapens the send-off. Ending with him and Data in a simulation together would have been good enough IMO. If you were going to resurrect him, do it in Season 2 at least.
That's all really. Overall I liked this season. I'd watch a Season 2 if it comes out.
It seems they've really drawn a line under the whole Data thing and avoided the temptation to bring him back beyond the manner in which he appeared in this season.
But then they go and
do a fake Picard death and resurrect him in the same episode for the feels. I didn't really buy it coming from these new characters. I don't feel they've personally known Picard for long enough to care as much as they seemed to - with exception of Rafi (sp?) but even
there it's somewhat of a fake history between the characters as far as we the audience is concerned. We've only seen what they've shown us in these 10 episodes.
The biggest genuine feels naturally derive from interactions with actual legacy characters from ST:TNG - thus the Data scenes and the Riker/Troi stuff
I also think the bonds between the various other characters seem forced. I don't know why Romulan Elrond appeared to care about Hugh or Seven for example. Is it just his nature to latch onto people he has known for all of 5 minutes?
As far as the story details of Episode 10 - really looking forward to RLM's take on it, I can see them absolutely destroying it. To me, so much seemed wrong with it - I mentioned hot evil romulan girl - I'm struggling to remember why and how she was even in this episode? I actually thought she was killed by some of the Borg in a previous one. What purpose did she serve here?
was she really brought back just so she could be killed by Seven? What's her brother going to think of that? In fact, where was he by episode's end? I can't even remember.
I didn’t really like the fake Picard death, but I’m glad they resisted the temptation to bring back Data and the way they had him ask Picard to sort of let go of him by eliminating his consciousness. It sort of reinforced Data’s desire to be as human as possible, by wanting to be mortal as opposed to immortal, which included his consciousness and to be nothing but a complete memory.
As far as Picard’s fake death, I didn’t like the fact he was surrounded by people he knew for all of five minutes, with the exception of Rafi like you said. I mean sure you could say the same for Kirk with Picard, but well, it’s Kirk and Picard who obviously share a common bond and mutual respect for one another without having to know each other for more than five minutes. If your intent was to have Picard live, there was no need to do a fake death imo just for the “feels.” Quite pointless.
Really liked Riker at the end as well and as mentioned, Jean Luc being able to compel Soji to do the right thing. Very Picard-like.
they sort of showed the Odyssey class? It was almost that (shared a lot of similar design queues). I've been wanting the Odyssey to be canon ever since I saw it in Star Trek Online.
I do admit it has its bad times, but there are some good episodes there.
