Star Wars: Ahsoka

[jye4ever]

I did laugh though when the lumbering zombie storm troopers all of a sudden started running up the stairs

 

[Raleig.h]

Because she's not a Dathomirian Zabrak, she's human. Just adopted into their culture through unknown means.

Ah okay makes sense. I guess I never would've thought of that as Night Sisters don't seem like the type to be accepting of outsiders.

 

[loki2371]

After watching this video....



the clips of Ahsoka using her lightsaber are pretty bad. I like Rosario Dawson, but she is NOT an action star. She is waaay to slow and cumbersome. Not nearly as bad as the Reeeeeva clips I've seen, but bad still. Watching her fight the other chick is like watching 2 old women who still think they are in their prime give it a go. There's just so little energy. Meanwhile, Hayden, Stevenson, Ezra and the other Sith chick all look pretty good in the few quick clips I've watched. There's a reason Lucas used stunt doubles for Palps & Dooku. Lucas' mantra of "faster & more intense" I guess fell flat on Filoni. Or, they just don't have the budget for these D+ shows. Would be pricey to use proper stunt doubles with added CGI to make the battles believable. Oh well....

This show definitely seems it would've been better as an animated Rebels s5. But that wouldn't work with their big plan of a movie finale of all these D+ shows. That movie is just gonna feel like a TV special with Filoni at the helm. Or if they do give it a proper go with a big budget, it's gonna make some of the stuff in the D+ shows look even worse.

 

[The Buffinator]

I enjoyed the series as a whole and thought they did a good job with the characters and introducing those more mystical elements from the Filoniverse, along with having some pretty memorable villains. And the fact it was FAR less cringey than the previous few shows is a huge plus as well...

But I would agree the writing and pacing could have been a lot tighter and this didn't feel like a story that needed 8 episodes to tell.

I agree on on the pacing (especially early on). I think the 8 episode length was fine but how Filoni allocated that time could have been greatly improved. Less time establishing the ineptitude of the New Republic, a quicker resolution of the Ahsoka/Sabine rift, more time devoted to both the Baylan/Shin relationship and Baylan's quest (so we know if it will have any bearing on the story going forward).

Spoiler

I've since read that those statues that Baylan found likely depict "the Mortis gods, a.k.a. the Ones - three ancient beings with deep connections to the Force" and that they have ties to the World Between Worlds. So it seems Baylan's pilgrimage to that area may be the key for Ahsoka, Sabine, Shin, etc., to return to their own galaxy.

 

[darth dennis]

After watching this video....



the clips of Ahsoka using her lightsaber are pretty bad. I like Rosario Dawson, but she is NOT an action star. She is waaay to slow and cumbersome. Not nearly as bad as the Reeeeeva clips I've seen, but bad still. Watching her fight the other chick is like watching 2 old women who still think they are in their prime give it a go. There's just so little energy. Meanwhile, Hayden, Stevenson, Ezra and the other Sith chick all look pretty good in the few quick clips I've watched. There's a reason Lucas used stunt doubles for Palps & Dooku. Lucas' mantra of "faster & more intense" I guess fell flat on Filoni. Or, they just don't have the budget for these D+ shows. Would be pricey to use proper stunt doubles with added CGI to make the battles believable. Oh well....

This show definitely seems it would've been better as an animated Rebels s5. But that wouldn't work with their big plan of a movie finale of all these D+ shows. That movie is just gonna feel like a TV special with Filoni at the helm. Or if they do give it a proper go with a big budget, it's gonna make some of the stuff in the D+ shows look even worse.

Yeah, the lightsaber work was not good. Interestingly, I do not recall having an issue with Anakin and Ahsoka's duel... I think they kept the camera angles tighter, the action shorter and it worked better because of Hayden. Plus, the lightsaber action in the finale was a lot of blocking blaster shots and that's basically fighting air, which I assume is challenging for the actors...

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

I thought the finale was fine. I figured it was not going to be epic based on the lack of real build up in the previous episode. But it did have some good moments, but also a lot of pacing issues. Our heroes were not exactly acting like it was a race against time like Thrawn was doing.

It just kind of... ended.

If they really wanted people to get pumped, there should've been a small New Republic fleet/squadron waiting for Thrawn's arrival in his busted star destroyer, but Thrawn is still able to defeat it with his depleted resources. Then cut to the hangar bay with Hera and close out.

Still have no idea what Baylan is looking for. Valley of the Jedi? WBW? I got nothing.

I guess if we get a season 2 it's all on the other galaxy far far away.

 

[slynger]

I enjoyed it. I still think Ray Stevenson stole the show.

 

[chrisstbh]

Ah okay makes sense. I guess I never would've thought of that as Night Sisters don't seem like the type to be accepting of outsiders.

Probably can't afford to be picky at this point considering the whole genocide thing .

 

[The Entity]

As someone who has enjoyed the series to this point, I have to agree. I didn't need as much of the Walking Dead crossover as we got and the battle was waaaaaaaaay to long and drawn out. Still a decent overall series but didn't really stick the landing at the end.

Same here. I really enjoyed the show, but this episode was lacking in my opinion.

• Thrawn the mastermind takes out the Jedi shuttle to stop them from getting near the Destroyer.
• The Jedi use their ratwolves to reach the Destroyer in mere minutes anyway.
• Thrawn the tactical genius orders to unleash hell upon them to stop them from getting near the temple.
• Must be stormtroopers on those turbolasers because they can't hit anything and the Jedi use their ratwolves to reach the temple in mere seconds anyway.
• Thrawn the heir of the Empire sends down Nighttroopers to stop them from getting to the tower.
• He fails to close any of the blastdoors after they got to the groundfloor giving the Jedi easy acces to the top of the tower in mere minutes anyway. (And they manage to use the blastdoors against the troopers...)
• And when Thrawn barely gets the Destroyer away from the Jedi shuttle he acts like he's superior and won. Yes you won, but not because you're so smart. It was sheer dumb luck.
• Ahsoka looked kinda dumb deflecting blastershots with her sabers.
• I still don't like Sabine and I don't like it that she's force-sensitive. She barely manages to forcepull her lightsaber when being choked, only to launch Ezra acros a huge gap mere seconds later.
• Ezra, travels from Dathomir (presumably) to the secret location of the Republic fleet, is able to land the ship inside the main hangar, and still everybody is oblivious of who it might be... aren't there security checks or codes that need to be transmitted.
• Don't know how long it takes to travel from Dathomir to secret Republic location, but long enough to take off some smelly zombie trooper armor I'd say.
• Shin reaches a camp.
• Baylan finds the Argonath.

So yeah, I'm dissapointed.

 

[pixletwin]

The bit with Baylan at the end should have been the end of episode 7.

 

[loki2371]

Very well thought out and informative finale review.....

 

[davejames]

After watching this video....



the clips of Ahsoka using her lightsaber are pretty bad. I like Rosario Dawson, but she is NOT an action star. She is waaay to slow and cumbersome. Not nearly as bad as the Reeeeeva clips I've seen, but bad still. Watching her fight the other chick is like watching 2 old women who still think they are in their prime give it a go. There's just so little energy. Meanwhile, Hayden, Stevenson, Ezra and the other Sith chick all look pretty good in the few quick clips I've watched. There's a reason Lucas used stunt doubles for Palps & Dooku. Lucas' mantra of "faster & more intense" I guess fell flat on Filoni. Or, they just don't have the budget for these D+ shows. Would be pricey to use proper stunt doubles with added CGI to make the battles believable. Oh well....

This show definitely seems it would've been better as an animated Rebels s5. But that wouldn't work with their big plan of a movie finale of all these D+ shows. That movie is just gonna feel like a TV special with Filoni at the helm. Or if they do give it a proper go with a big budget, it's gonna make some of the stuff in the D+ shows look even worse.

I wonder how much of that is just due to the challenge of welding two lightsabers, as there were few times this season when it didn't look clunky and unnatural, even for the skilled stunt people. And they never seemed to make the idea work as well in live action as it did in animation.

So maybe it's for the best that one of them got destroyed this episode.

 

[Deinonychus]

Absolute rubbish. Zero chance I ever watch that show again, same as all other recent garbage disney has put out, apart from the superb Andor. Such a stupid show, Thrawn was a thick muppet too. That's me done with this disney trash until Andor season 2.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I did laugh when the lumbering zombie storm troopers all of a sudden started running up the stairs

Cross Fit survived to other parts of the galaxy!

 

[Lorddrizzt]

I did laugh when the lumbering zombie storm troopers all of a sudden started running up the stairs

Well, if you die and get resurrected, you start slow, but recover soon and start acting normal, especially if they were dead and reanimated by the Nightsisters before. Marrok acted normal too and Death Troopers were dead too and moved and acted normally, clearly undead and risen by Nightsisters. So I think they are supposed to act not as zombies, but took some time to adjust to the resurrection.

 

[Lorddrizzt]

Absolute rubbish. Zero chance I ever watch that show again, same as all other recent garbage disney has put out, apart from the superb Andor. Such a stupid show, Thrawn was a thick muppet too. That's me done with this disney trash until Andor season 2.

Enjoy that crap Andor. Absolutely unnecessary, boring show with unlikable characters I did not care for at all. Actually fell asleep few times during watching Andor garbage.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

I enjoyed it. I still think Ray Stevenson stole the show.

There's a direct correlation to an episode's potential for awesomeness and how much we get of Ray Stevenson's practical screen time.

 

[Asta]

Enjoy that crap Andor. Absolutely unnecessary, boring show with unlikable characters I did not care for at all. Actually fell asleep few times during watching Andor garbage.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

So yeah, I'm dissapointed.

My thought process is that if Thrawn is supposed to be the central villain of a standalone film, and this is Filoni's version of Thanos for his section of the Star Wars universe, then the audience just needs more practical character development. More episodes and more screen time. We need to see more of Thrawn, and particularly casual viewers need more immersion with Thrawn to better create a truly terrifying antagonist.

I mean we've gotten more coverage of that side character doctor with glasses from The Mandalorian, and his bittersweet half romance with the Imperial lackey who used to get Gideon's Bantha bits for him at the mall, than we do of Thrawn.

I just fail to see the rationale in not having a full episode purely dedicated to Thrawn here in S1. Just my take on it.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

They've completely dropped the ball on Thrawn. He should have been threatening and dangerous. His troopers should have been a cut above the typical trooper. The hero's should have barely survived him. They should have had Thrawn winning battles decisively. They should have had him utterly and easily ruin a NR fleet waiting for him when he got back to the galaxy.
He doesn't come across as a brilliant tactician or a terrorfyingly competent genius commander. He's a loser that somehow claims victory. And he has a dad bod.
Are we supposed to give a crap that Thrawn is returning?
They tell us he’s a threat but in the Ahsoka series they show us he’s nothing special and we've nothing to worry about.
We're a long way from Timothy Zhan here.