Star Wars: Andor (April 22, 2025)

[ZE_501]

Great episode, with some electrifying performances from the cast. I can understand why it's not connecting with a lot of the audience though. Which is a shame, hopefully this season will tell a complete story, as I can't see Disney making a second season.

I thought Season 2 was green-lit and a lock already. Unless those scum-sucking, spreadsheet-worshipping, anti-art pig-dogs in charge pull the plug.

 

[Musashi3290]

Shut yo mowf.

Seriously, if they put glow sticks in this I'm gonna RIOT.

Or write a strongly worded forum post.


Oh no!

Fair enough, lol. I'm also down for no glow sticks if the writing is great.

I just decided to ignore Danoby. He's a man-baby

 

[e30ernest]

For those of you into production design:



Morphologist is a YouTuber I mostly follow for his reviews on designs of things in Star Citizen. But he does a good overview of the architecture of Andor.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I would get Cassian, Luthen, Dedra and Kino.

Syril is too creepy. Don't want him in my house.

 

[a-dev]

Mon Mothma.

No I wouldn't buy anything from this show. I'm pretty much done with Star Wars collecting anyway though, and I never dared embark on 1/6 Star Wars.

 

[xXJ0kerXx1]

slim, but i will 100% day 1 PO luthen if hot toys decides to grace us with another old person sculpt because they excel at that stuff or at least all the creases and details are more prominent once casted into the usual soft plastic

 

[Somerset]

Good interview with Tony Gilroy here: ‘Andor’ Creator Tony Gilroy Talks Luthen Rael’s Future and Being Surprised by Certain Easter Eggs

 

[Mandible]

I thought Season 2 was green-lit and a lock already. Unless those scum-sucking, spreadsheet-worshipping, anti-art pig-dogs in charge pull the plug.

Anything is possible at the moment; Disney stock is in the toilet, so nothing would surprise me. Got no idea why their shares are "dying?" I must be missing something?

 

[okieh 2]

Amazing last episode!!!

 

[abake]

Loving this show.
Oddly enough, I do think it could use some more Star Wars in it. Just a little bit. No twirling lightsabers or force-lightning, but it could use some mention of the Emperor's "wishes", or some comment about what happened to the unfortunate ISB officer who had to take a bad report to that maniac Lord Vader... I think it could be done in a decent an unobtrusive way.
Whatever, I'm more than happy with what we've got.

Don't know if this has been posted:

How 'Andor' Drew from... Joseph Stalin? Plus: Inside Season 2 of the Revolutionary Star Wars Show

 

[Sassafras]

Anything is possible at the moment; Disney stock is in the toilet, so nothing would surprise me. Got no idea why their shares are "dying?" I must be missing something?

Their shares will go up when Mando Season 3 gets closer. Lot of competition with other services.

Besides the fact that, there are lots of complaints about the Disney parks - sounds like I missed the window to even bother to go to one. Rising park ticket prices, cutting services, parks aren't kept as clean as they were, some horrible phone based system you need to use to get on rides - that you pay for, overcrowding, and even food portions cut back (Hundreds of Food & Beverage Price Increases at Disney World (Fall 2022))

and then there's the politics.

The SW hotel that costs thousands for a weekend seems to be a flop too, with some fans laughably comparing the rooms to Andor's prison

 

[batfan08]

I would get Cassian, Luthen, Dedra and Kino.

Syril is too creepy. Don't want him in my house.

I still get the impression Syril’s gonna go postal after all the gaslighting the Empire’s done and the whole deal with his overbearing mom. I would not at all be surprised if he kills Meero by the end of this.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Totally in character but both actors have been chatting as though they survive season 1 at least.

 

[ArtDamage]

"Calm.. Kindness.. Kinship.. Love..
I've given up all chance at inner peace, I've made my mind a sunless space.
I share my dreams with ghosts, I wake up everyday to an equation I wrote fifteen years ago from which there's only one conclusion...

I'm damned for what I do! My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield. My eagerness to fight...

They've set me on a path from which there's no escape.. I yearned to be a savior against injustice without contemplating the cost and by the time I looked down there was no longer any ground beneath my feet. I'm condemned to use the tools of my enemy to defeat them.

I burn my decency for someone else's future. I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I will never see. And the ego that started this fight will never have a mirror, or an audience, or the light of gratitude.. So what is my sacrifice?"


HOLY ****

 

[batfan08]

While I’m here, holy hell. What an episode. I watched it at 3 AM went it went up and I’m still reeling from it.

The prison break was superb and Kino was absolutely brilliant. There’s something to be said about the nuances in Andy Serkis’ performance. His slow realization and changing face that comes with the news that, no matter what you’ve done or how long you have, you’re never getting out and the way he lets slip the pretense of his position. It’s like we got to see the five stages of grief reflectively play out over two episodes and it was masterful.

I actually liked his speech, though. Specifically because I don’t think it was overly choreographed. I loved the way they played with long pauses and silence and giving the viewer the impression that he’s making it up as he goes along and the end was an absolutely devastating twist of irony. It was such a gut punch that, after all his rousing of the prisoners, and using his naturally authoritative presence that he’d fostered as a means of survival, his story would be bookended by something as simple and mundane as an inability to swim, and yet, it was so utterly fitting that I truly feel it’s all that needs to be said on the matter. I don’t need to see him again. I don’t need Kino Loy to become a key figure in the rebellion to know that he was a key figure in the rebellion.

That’s what this show does so brilliantly and that’s what makes Luthen’s speech all the more potent: it shows the power in the mundane. It’s telling that, at any given point, he can seem like the villain of the story. His steadfast willingness to sacrifice 50 men for the sake of a solitary asset; the purposefulness with which he antagonizes and applies pressure to The Empire when he knows he’s only exacerbating the situation and the unrest it’s going to result in; all of it he’s doing with the same dedication to his cause as The Emperor in executing Order 66. And I think that’s what’s so striking about Luthen. In a way, he’s creating The Empire as much as he is The Rebellion. Because when we meet our cast of characters in the first episode of Andor, things seem dire, but not “Star Wars” dire. It feels like that “uneasy peace” MLK talked about. Where it’s bad, but just good enough that people are willing to accept that…and Luthen wants to burn away the facade.

And the beauty in all of it is that, as near as I can tell, the man behind the curtain holding the match is just a man. He’s got no stake in the Jedi order nor the mythology of The Force: he’s just an antiquities dealer with a grudge, an abundance of time and money, and the will to see it through. The monologue just thematically punctuated all that and it worked brilliantly in tandem with the prison break because everything about this show has been further reaffirming the true cost of a rebellion and what it looks like. It took going to that prison for Cassian to wrestle with the true cost of abandoning his convictions and it highlights how ugly that situation can look from the outside.

I really wish I could better communicate how it felt watching it, but as they were all taking up arms and storming up staircases, I could see both sides of it. I could see people written off as the dregs of society fulfilling new roles as heroes of the Rebellion. The idea that the people Mon Mothma and Luthen and Ackbar and all of the prominent figures in the rebellion would be recruiting more than anyone would be those who have been disenfranchised and most oppressed by the Empire to the point of being willing to fight.

And then I see the other side. Mothma’s preening husband hearing the news of a mass prison break and being chilled by it. As though all the men there were just monsters and criminals and how it’s so upsetting the order of things. Tony Gilroy is able to say so much with so little and it’s absurd to me how talented he is. I don’t care what anybody says. This is my Star Wars. As much as ANH or TESB, this is my Star Wars.

 

[chrisstbh]

 

[jedibear]

I want to see a T-Shirt sold at Galleria's Edge that says "Run! Climb! Kill!" and have people in those insane ride ques wearing it and chanting it over and over...what a moment of zen that would be!

This show is just f'n fantastic. It's still really looking like the project that the cool kids did while the bosses weren't looking. There is no way that the people responsible for the visual drool that was Kenobi and BOTF or the hyped mediocrity that is Mando could have come up with something as stirring and high quality as this is. NO WAY. Gonna be a long wait for season 2.

 

[Darthrazz]

Wow! can we talk about the character development of Kino Loy in only 2-3 episodes?

 

[jye4ever]

Wow! can we talk about the character development of Kino Loy in only 2-3 episodes?

As great as he was and HE WAS…But Luthen was my jam…..

Luthen was a freaking masterpiece!

My jaw was on the ground.

I got chills.

I can’t believe this is Star Wars.

I can’t believe it’s not butter.

 

[Darthrazz]

As great as he was and HE WAS…But Luthen was my jam…..

Luthen was a masterpiece!

100% agree, what they are doing with Luthen's character is a masterpiece.