Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Otomofan]

I really hope that Rey IS the reincarnation of Anakin. It's so lazy and stupid and forced even the dumbest audience members will groan in disbelief.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

You've all got it wrong. It's Luke that turns to the dark side and it's up to both Rey AND Kylo to save him.

Now that is something I'd like to see.

 

[MaulFan]

While Star Wars is full of unusual things, the notion of Rey being Anakin reborn undermines his Force spirit showing up at the end of Jedi, or begs the question, if he can reincarnate, then where is Obi-Wan, or Qui-Gon or Yoda?

 

[SNIKT1950]

I really hope that Rey IS the reincarnation of Anakin. It's so lazy and stupid and forced even the dumbest audience members will groan in disbelief.

Nothing lazy or stupid or forced about it.

The Whills (God in the SW universe) watch the Light and Dark engage in a conflict that seems endless. A conflict that goes against everything they had intended for The Force's role in the galaxy to be - so they realize it's time to hit the reset button. Palpatine is born to wipe out the Jedi and fulfill a thousand-year-old Sith resurgence. The role The Whills want him to play is to remove the Jedi from the playing field. He does this. Naturally, they'll need to remove Palpatine from it as well afterwards so Anakin is born to achieve this.

The most interesting part is that because The Whills are omniscient and omnipotent they choose to gamble on their proposed plan to reset the world in hopes that the parties in question may rethink their respective strategies. They have someone write this plan down in a journal which makes it's way to both the Light and Dark orders. There they explain to all Force users how Light vs. Dark is incorrect and the appropriate use of the Force requires a merger of both. Naturally, both factions ignore this and misinterpret the bit about a "Chosen One" who will bring balance by destroying both factions. Thus is all happens as The Whills thought it would.

The story didn't end there though. After Anakin killed Palpatine and died in ROTJ, he wasn't finished. Snoke and Luke were still out there. That's the trilogy we're watching now. Unfinished business and the beginning of the "Grey" approach to The Force the Whills wrote about long before The Jedi and Sith had even organized.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I watched her fighting style very closely in TFA and she is fighting like a sith....

Compare her style (untrained) to the Emperor. They both use a stabbing style and short stabs...

Coincidence?

She also wears a small leather wrist-wrap or gauntlet. Boba Fett has a gauntlet.

Coincidence?

 

[Hellion]

I think people look too into this, its a Star Wars movie and is made for the general consumption of the masses therefore no overly complicated plot mired in lore. Vader's reveal as Luke's father in Empire was about the only surprise these movies have ever really held. Don't get me wrong I'm not putting down on the films as they are some of my all time favorites and right now the characters make up the bulk of my 1/6 collection, I just think these movies try to keep things mostly simple and easily understandable especially now under Disney.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

While Star Wars is full of unusual things, the notion of Rey being Anakin reborn undermines his Force spirit showing up at the end of Jedi, or begs the question, if he can reincarnate, then where is Obi-Wan, or Qui-Gon or Yoda?

If it turns out to be true that Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin then why haven't Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon and Yoda not been reincarnated? All three of these Jedi were far more experienced in the ways of the Force than Anakin.

I guess we'll see.

Nothing lazy or stupid or forced about it.

The Whills (God in the SW universe) watch the Light and Dark engage in a conflict that seems endless. A conflict that goes against everything they had intended for The Force's role in the galaxy to be - so they realize it's time to hit the reset button. Palpatine is born to wipe out the Jedi and fulfill a thousand-year-old Sith resurgence. The role The Whills want him to play is to remove the Jedi from the playing field. He does this. Naturally, they'll need to remove Palpatine from it as well afterwards so Anakin is born to achieve this.

The most interesting part is that because The Whills are omniscient and omnipotent they choose to gamble on their proposed plan to reset the world in hopes that the parties in question may rethink their respective strategies. They have someone write this plan down in a journal which makes it's way to both the Light and Dark orders. There they explain to all Force users how Light vs. Dark is incorrect and the appropriate use of the Force requires a merger of both. Naturally, both factions ignore this and misinterpret the bit about a "Chosen One" who will bring balance by destroying both factions. Thus is all happens as The Whills thought it would.

The story didn't end there though. After Anakin killed Palpatine and died in ROTJ, he wasn't finished. Snoke and Luke were still out there. That's the trilogy we're watching now. Unfinished business and the beginning of the "Grey" approach to The Force the Whills wrote about long before The Jedi and Sith had even organized.

If what you're saying turns out to be true then it could prove to be interesting if done right.

I think people look too into this, its a Star Wars movie and is made for the general consumption of the masses therefore no overly complicated plot mired in lore. Vader's reveal as Luke's father in Empire was about the only surprise these movies have ever really held. Don't get me wrong I'm not putting down on the films as they are some of my all time favorites and right now the characters make up the bulk of my 1/6 collection, I just think these movies try to keep things mostly simple and easily understandable especially now under Disney.

That's what keeps me skeptical about the reincarnation scenario.

 

[MaulFan]

I was thinking if anything, Anakin was more strong with the Dark than the Light side, Luke is strong with the Light, balance doesn't mean being one or the other, so what if Rey is the third and final piece, the last in the Skywalker bloodline who will be a balance of the Dark and Light side of the Force and truly harmonize everything.

The prophecy was that the Chosen One would bring balance to the Force, they never said how.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

That's true. It was never said how balance would be achieved.

 

[Otomofan]

Nothing lazy or stupid or forced about it.

The Whills (God in the SW universe) watch the Light and Dark engage in a conflict that seems endless. A conflict that goes against everything they had intended for The Force's role in the galaxy to be - so they realize it's time to hit the reset button. Palpatine is born to wipe out the Jedi and fulfill a thousand-year-old Sith resurgence. The role The Whills want him to play is to remove the Jedi from the playing field. He does this. Naturally, they'll need to remove Palpatine from it as well afterwards so Anakin is born to achieve this.

The most interesting part is that because The Whills are omniscient and omnipotent they choose to gamble on their proposed plan to reset the world in hopes that the parties in question may rethink their respective strategies. They have someone write this plan down in a journal which makes it's way to both the Light and Dark orders. There they explain to all Force users how Light vs. Dark is incorrect and the appropriate use of the Force requires a merger of both. Naturally, both factions ignore this and misinterpret the bit about a "Chosen One" who will bring balance by destroying both factions. Thus is all happens as The Whills thought it would.

The story didn't end there though. After Anakin killed Palpatine and died in ROTJ, he wasn't finished. Snoke and Luke were still out there. That's the trilogy we're watching now. Unfinished business and the beginning of the "Grey" approach to The Force the Whills wrote about long before The Jedi and Sith had even organized.

Honestly, I hope you're right. I hope your ludicrous crackpot theories about Whills and Greys and reincarnation all come true and you can enjoy the movie.

I stopped being emotionally invested a long time ago and I'm only monitoring this movie's developments out of morbid curiosity. After TFA I said I'm never spending money to see another Disney SW movie. I got the "pleasure" of seeing my childhood heroes killed and belittled and replaced in the Ep 7, and I'm sure Luke's character will be further degraded before they kill him at the end of this movie.

I know I should just stay away and ignore it, but it's like Marty returning to 1985 and seeing Doc get shot again. He knows it's gonna happen, but he can't turn away.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

That's true. It was never said how balance would be achieved.

Or who

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Or who

That's true too.

 

[xipotec]

People are still pissed of Han got killed......LOL

Thats ok.....I am still mad that Boba Fett dies im such a dumb way.....( no, not really)

I am actually more upset Jabba died in such an unrealistic fashion (no, not really)

Actually I am MOST pissed off about that on snow-trooper that got shot for just trying to set up a tripod.... That made me turn off to ESB totally...


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[Darth Snoopy]

People are still pissed of Han got killed......LOL

While I was saddened at the death of Solo, my favorite SW character & childhood hero, I'm not about to go off the deep end and riot because he died.

 

[Sachiel]

I expected he would be killed off right after they announced episode 7.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I expected he would be killed off right after they announced episode 7.

Me too. And it was likely the best part of TFA. Good scene, well done.

I hope they do the same for Luke.

Although with Carrie gone, they may have decided that Leia will die and Luke will live. Someone from the OT must remain I think.

 

[MaulFan]

If Luke dies he can carry on ala Obi-Wan voice from the grave, Han and Leia are gone for good once killed off. I can see the droids being the only ones to live on through all, they're the one constant in every film in the entire saga.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Perhaps they'll go that way. Everything dies. Except robots. And ghosts. And prequels.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Someone from the OT must remain I think.

 

[Wor-Gar]

The Wookie must die.