Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Futurion]

The kid with the broom was ok. I like that nice force ability detail and what it suppose to promise for the future. But maybe it was just a music what i like, i dont know anymore. I'm torn apart.

 

[RIDDICK]

Because

... acting like children and the sky is falling and even attempting to revise history...

is absolutely not the same as acting like on hype drugs and shoutin "BEST STAR WARS MOVIE EVER".
But of course one'd only make fun of the opposite views because it suits his childish agenda.

 

[jye4ever]

Hey hey cut that out now you’re a grown man...

 

[jimminy]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Thing about Space Witch Leia is ...

I mean I actually thought she was dead for a moment. I thought, 'Woah, harsh, what a brutal way to write out Carrie Fisher after she died in real life ...'

And then when she turned into a space witch I thought, 'Oh, interesting.'

Both of those choices would have been interesting: space witch or dead. Both would have had an emotional impact.

But then she space witches into the ship and lies in bed all movie. We didn't get enough space witch for it to be cool, or dead for it to be important, but we got just enough space witching to be a bit weird by itself, and just enough almost-dead to make her kinda pointless in the movie. The worst of both worlds!

I mean I assume this was intended as foreshadowing, and the plan was to have her unleash awesome space witch powers next movie, and now that will never be, so in a way you can't blame the movie makers here, but ...

You write Carrie Fisher out of the middle movie in the first place? You have her lie around in a bed and only go half space witch? So frustrating, especially now that it's her last ever appearance. Could she have used her space witchery to aid the escape somehow, and increase the tension, while we all go, 'Woah, Leia with full force powers!'

Or, considering what happened after the shoot, would it have been too far to rewrite what was there, and have her die in that moment, and reshoot some stuff so Poe has his weird plan because he is reeling and desperate? It would also have added nuance to Kylo's moral confusion. And Luke would have missed his sister's death as well. That would have really broken him. Perhaps he could have blamed Kylo, so there is a misunderstanding on both sides. People saw Kylo's ship coming, and assumed it was him who fired on Leia, but no-one knows he couldn't bring himself to do it ... his greatest dark side 'act' in everyone's eyes is killing his mother, and he plays up to the legend, but it's the one thing he didn't do, and it eats him up inside ... Even Laura Dern could then have been 'sacrificing herself to aid Leia's final plan.' Every character's actions would have been a kind of tribute to her.

I understand that changes like that could have been interpreted as being harsh to Fisher's memory, and would have been very risky, but what we got makes for such a disjointed final appearance, and all of us could only think of the real world tragedy while she was lying in that bed anyway. I dunno what they should have done there. No-one's fault, but what a waste of Leia's last appearance.

 

[sithlord13]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

Just watched the phantom menace. I needed to get the bad taste of the last Jedi out of my mouth. I have moved away from the prequels in recent years but my god it was so better than last Jedi. There are bits that jar like everything with jar jar and the over the top connections like c3po being anakins but I actually don’t hate it. I love the OT mainly with bits of the ot but the st has failed me throughout- I would have gone hundreds of years into the future for any sequels and avoided this car crash. That said there are some cool bits but I don’t want the ot rehashed like tfa and I do want good stories not crap chases in space and sub plots that are totally redundant. If the rebellion had been locked down on Crait with their shield failing the film would have worked but instead we get fuel issues?
Kylo was good but I think his turning should have been part two and part one should have shown him falling -you know like the pt should have with anakin -⎌a genuine could have had doubt as to where he would go

Like others and I have said it was like a marvel film which I love but marvel ain’t Star Wars
I have always said that the old eu is my cannon and that continues. This is just something else.
Rouge one rocked thou and I just don’t understand how they got one so right and one so wrong. Hell rebels has been really great so I guess the new cartoon will be st crap

 

[jye4ever]

Well sorry to burst all of your RT/Meta/IMDB low Fan scores bubble because the only true Fan score that matters to the industry is Cinemascore and that got an A.

Zach 1
Snikt/Wor-Gar/Clown 0

 

[crows]

I feel like there are still people here having a tough time accepting the truth that this is a terrible movie. They're fighting the pull to the Light but should just learn to let go.

thats why people go 4,5,6 times to watch it


same exact thing happened with suicide squad, some peoople watched it 16 times because they were trying hard to reject reality

Hey hey cut that out now you’re a grown man...

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[klwn]

same exact thing happened with suicide squad, some peoople watched it 16 times because they were trying hard to reject reality

That's actually impressive. Barely made it through once (at home, so I could take breaks).

 

[Luminous]

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but if so, it does raise a question that I've been noticing in the past 48 hours.

Why are people being so touchy with those that don't like this movie? You got that random Luminous fella breaking down my criticsisms point by point, and for what? Whether someone hated or loved it, nobody here is going to change someone else's personal viewing experience.[/b]

Just some rando pointing out flaws in your logic so it's immediately discredited? Nice. Well that's one way to avoid acknowledging criticisms I guess. You don't know me so it's not worth your time. Brilliant.

Since it's pointless to attempt having a debate around here and the thread's sole purpose is to have a pitty party about how Star Wars is dead, there is no point in responding to your posts. I'll leave you to it then. Enjoy.

-Random guy

 

[Metalsaber]

Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi SPOILER DISCUSSION THREAD

They could have scrapped the whole Rose/Finn sequence and it might have been a slightly better movie.
Also running out of gas in a ship? I mean who's job was it to fill that sucker up before going into battle? /sigh
So my guess is that they killed Snoke off so that episode 9 wasnt compared as a rehash of episode 6. I get it, but I don't buy Kylo as the ultimate bad ass leader.
Also Rey getting less training than Luke and somehow I'm supposed to buy she's an amazing fighter/jedi? sheesh.
The Luke milk scene was so creepy but the only way it could have been more creepy is if Luke sucked out the milk directly from the tit. /cringe
I agree that Lando would have been the appropriate hacker/infiltrator or at least the actual stand in rather than BDT.
The Flying Leia would have been better suited for a circus act rather than a movie scene.
From another site, apparently Force Skype is now a power in the SW universe complete with augmented reality (real water and gold dice transfer)

Oh and apparently Yoda was a closet pyromaniac.

 

[crows]

That's actually impressive. Barely made it through once (at home, so I could take breaks).

im not even joking about the 16 times. i think someone saw it 25 times lol

 

[a-dev]

The level of disgust this film is receiving goes to show how much hope people still wanted to have. For me, TFA had already ****ed things up so I felt like this didn't really matter. I had already relegated it to elseworlds Star Wars. As such I enjoyed it on that level. Maybe it's difficult for people to do that when it's got Luke and Leia in it...but much like how Disney wrote off the old EU - you have that power too. If you wish upon a star anyone can write off anything they want and have their own canon....

 

[klwn]

Phantom Menace is better than this. It's not even hyperbole.


All those shots of the goofy alien creatures doing little jokey things for the audience was worse than anything in Episode I. There's that moment where that horse thing takes a nasty **** in front of Jar Jar's face or whatever, but not every scene was filled with crap like that. In fact, other than Jar Jar, there aren't even a lot of jokes in comparison.

Phantom Menace didn't have Obi-Wan extracting milk from a ****ing 10 foot phallic creature. Or Qui-Gon spewing "ur momma" jokes to Darth Maul. Every scene there's some kind of stupid Marvelesque quip, Episode I didn't have that. I'll take the thrilling podracing sequence over Finn and the Asian chick riding on goofy ass horse things or whatever that sequence was (like Rogue One, the night sequences were murky and dull as ****). Other than the midichlorian thing, the Phantom Menace never **** on Star Wars as a whole. This movie does. Every piece of dialogue from Luke, Yoda and Kylo Ren is a dig at the lore and franchise as a whole.

Yes, exactly, thank you.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

After 30 years, the official Disney canon Luke learned nothing, did nothing, and went out like a weak, blue milk drinking little old man stuck on an island with slugs...what a legend.

 

[Entropy]

This was a great movie, sorry for those who didn’t like it. Maybe you’ll come around in 20 years?

 

[SNIKT1950]

thats why people go 4,5,6 times to watch it


same exact thing happened with suicide squad, some peoople watched it 16 times because they were trying hard to reject reality

This will be the first EVER SW movie I don't watch a second time in theaters.

-Watched RO 3 times, twice in [2D] 15/70, once in Digital
-Watched TFA 5 times in real [2D] 15/70 IMAX
-Watched ROTS 4 times in '05
-Watched AOTC twice in '02, once in crappy converted 15/70, once in a standard theater
-Watched TPM 3 times in '99
-Watched ROTJ: SE 3 times in '97
-Watched ESB: SE 3 times in '97
-Watched ANH: SE 4 times in '97

 

[Ropen]

Well sorry to burst all of your RT/Meta/IMDB low Fan scores bubble because the only true Fan score that matters to the industry is Cinemascore and that got an A.

Zach 1
Snikt/Wor-Gar/Clown 0

So. All of the sudden they don’t matter just because they are low, funny you were the first to bash the JL based on those websites except Cinemascore.

You are the fifth person I’ve encountered today that is finding their safe zone on CS... face it, it’s still opening weekend, you can’t even tell who’s behind those scores but this movie sucked.


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[Chakor]

same exact thing happened with suicide squad, some peoople watched it 16 times because they were trying hard to reject reality

After remembering that the SW PT exists, I take back everything negative I ever said about SS.

 

[jye4ever]

The level of disgust this film is receiving goes to show how much hope people still wanted to have. For me, TFA had already ****ed things up so I felt like this didn't really matter. I had already relegated it to elseworlds Star Wars. As such I enjoyed it on that level. Maybe it's difficult for people to do that when it's got Luke and Leia in it...but much like how Disney wrote off the old EU - you have that power too. If you wish upon a star anyone can write off anything they want and have their own canon....

Have to becareful though because fan scores from those sites can’t be trusted and we have here in this forum what...30 people at most who are vocal about hating it.

Cinemascore is the only accurate (as much as it can be) score the industry uses and that’s an A.

After 30 years, the official Disney canon Luke learned nothing, did nothing, and went out like a weak, blue milk drinking little old man stuck on an island with slugs...what a legend.

Just because we honor someone as a legend does it mean they believe they are one.

 

[jye4ever]

So. All of the sudden they don’t matter just because they are low, funny you were the first to bash the JL based on those websites except Cinemascore.

You are the fifth person I’ve encountered today that is finding their safe zone on CS... face it, it’s still opening weekend, you can’t even tell who’s behind those scores but this movie sucked.


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Not accurate I never go by fan scores from RT only verified critics score.

I don’t even know what the CS was for JL help me out here will ya lol

I honestly never bothered to look it up.