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This is what took many out of the scene, and made people focus on Superman having to many other imagined options.
Adding mass debris falling, a column, etc, simultaneously collapsing around them (almost killing them if they went that way) visibly trapping them, may have helped sell it more.
LOL! Other than Snyder telling them to stay put, no.
This is what took many out of the scene, and made people focus on Superman having to many other imagined options.
Adding mass debris falling, a column, etc, simultaneously collapsing around them (almost killing them if they went that way) visibly trapping them, may have helped sell it more.
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Given he was raised by a foster dad who inexplicably chose suicide by tornado I think Clark's making a panicked decision with Zod is only natural.
A huge red hot heat beam rising up from the floor on your right, less than a few feet away travelling roughly crawling height with 10 foot high rubble on your left and the source of the danger in front. A single adult I could see maybe successfully getting out of it, not a man, his wife and two young children..
LOL! Other than Snyder telling them to stay put, no.
This is what took many out of the scene, and made people focus on Superman having to many other imagined options.
Adding mass derby a column, etc, simultaneously falling around them (almost killing them if they went that way) visibly trapping them, may have helped sell it more.
Weirdly, this gets so much scrutiny when The Batman has waaay more of these types of scenarios that can be picked at but rarely are.
Not inexplicably.Given he was raised by a foster dad who inexplicably chose suicide by tornado I think Clark's making a panicked decision with Zod is only natural.
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"Weirdly, this gets so much scrutiny "
The motive of killing? Or the staging of the scene?
Clearly it was problematic or people wouldn't be asking.
As far as Superman killing where he has no choice to save lives, never had a problem with it, or the movie, and I thought the grief of having to do it, was well conveyed and powerful. Just suggesting how it could have been staged better. If you don't see that, then
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No not inexplicably, but the explanation was lame. Clark can move at the speed of light - he could have grabbed Papa Costner, dropped him off somewhere safely out of sight and been back before anyone knew he was gone. And Superman would never let his father die like that regardless if people learned about his abilities or not. Plus they were on a highway and I don’t think it was established that any of the other people taking shelter were from Smallville and/or even knew them. There’s a reason that scene has spawned so many Costner memes & gifs.
We've no idea how fast he can move at 17 in MoS.
Let's say he can, Pa Kent would have been ripped apart by the sheer force put on him.
Plus, at least some people would have seen a teenage boy disappear, regardless of where they were from.
He wasn't Superman when he was 17.
He could push a sunken school bus out of river when he was @10 years old - I think it’s safe to assume he could have saved his father on the highway. And let’s not bring physics into a superhero movie discussion lol. But even if people saw him disappear, so what? It would have just been a fantastical story if they didn’t know who he was & the Kents didn’t stick around for the aftermath. I liked (& still like) MoS, but that choice for Jonathan’s death was for me a poor one. A heart attack (something Clark absolutely could not prevent) will always be the better call.
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That's such an important and emotional scene, Idk why ppl have problem with it. It has a huge meaning.
I just hope this new movie gets as much scrutiny as the Snyder movies have, but I have a feeling it won't b/c it's James Gunn. I don't think Snyder is untouchable or that all his decisions were correct (I have my fair share of issues with his DC movies), but I can still watch and enjoy them infinitely more than any of Gunn's comicbook entries.
I'm sort of torn b/c Superman is my all time favorite hero. Part of me wants the movie to be bad in order to get Gunn out of there. The other part of me finally wants a Superman movie that has most of the elements I want to see on the screen. To put it simply, a mix between the bright and lighthearted Reeve along with the strength/power and physicality of Cavill. Saddly, it sounds as though that's what Cavill wanted as well in a sequel but never got the chance. I'm sort of tired of "we were going to do this and that in the sequel" when it comes to Superman. Same thing happened with Routh. The sequel was supposed to be everything we really wanted but never got. Ideally, this movie will hit the marks in the first outing without needing a sequel to flesh it out, regardless of my feelings towards Gunn and his style.
I'm sort of torn b/c Superman is my all time favorite hero. Part of me wants the movie to be bad in order to get Gunn out of there. The other part of me finally wants a Superman movie that has most of the elements I want to see on the screen. To put it simply, a mix between the bright and lighthearted Reeve along with the strength/power and physicality of Cavill. Saddly, it sounds as though that's what Cavill wanted as well in a sequel but never got the chance. I'm sort of tired of "we were going to do this and that in the sequel" when it comes to Superman. Same thing happened with Routh. The sequel was supposed to be everything we really wanted but never got. Ideally, this movie will hit the marks in the first outing without needing a sequel to flesh it out, regardless of my feelings towards Gunn and his style.
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Yea I can’t wait to hear this one
Because I'd like to believe that even as a young man Clark would have chosen to save a life (especially his father's) over protecting his secret. The fact that he chose to do so as a kid (with his classmates in the bus) demonstrated that, then he reverses course in this situation? Sure Jonathan counseled him to not reveal himself to the world, but (for me) it still doesn't track for his character. Also a pretty sh!tty move for a parent to put their child in that spot.
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Why did they go back to the red trunks again? The costume looks so much better without them.
This costume is just ugly. Looks too thick, like a rubber suit and I hate the design of the S. This is as bad as those CW Superman suit designs.
This costume is just ugly. Looks too thick, like a rubber suit and I hate the design of the S. This is as bad as those CW Superman suit designs.
I wouldn't say it's safe to say he could do that. It doesn't appear like he has really tried to push his powers until he gets his suit.
Just because superhero movies play with physics doesn't mean we abandon them entirely.
So Clark runs off at light speed with Jonathon in his arms and his father's internal organs stay intact, are they picking up Martha on the way past too?
A heart attack is okay but it doesn't teach him something he wouldn't know already by the time he is late teens or older.
...and he wouldn't let me save him.
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