The Amazing Spider Man 2 (2014)

[karamazov80]

I read the Ultimates, and from what I've seen it's a hodge podge. Thor is mostly 616, Iron Man is a new creation but suit resembles 616 counterparts, Hulk is 616, Hawkeye is Ultimates, Fury is Ultimates, Cap could be either, since the Ultimates didn't take a drastic number of liberties from what I've read (a bit stronger and faster, I think).

 

[RIDDICK]

I you only read "Ultimates" then you don't now **** about how bad Ultimate Marvel Universe is.

 

[galmando]

Ultimate Cap is pretty unhinged

He ain't like the 616 Cap

 

[karamazov80]

I did recall a few scenes where he seemed way more violent than he should have, but I just chalked that up to "cool modern and gritty" storytelling. Like his line about "What the f do you think the A on my head stands for? ****ing France???" *then he slices a guy's head off or something*

Considering that the writer was from the UK, I always assumed he had some resentment toward the U.S. that eked out in some of his Cap writing, but. . .whatever. I also tried to read some of the Galactus and Fantastic Four stuff, but they were both terrible and I couldn't get through it.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

I don't get the controversy over Rhino and Electro. Both look like their Ultimate incarnations. Rhino, looks like a proto version of his suit, especially the new shots which show the actors face inside the suit. And Electro, well he is almost exactly the same as the Ultimate version? I even remember watching (ahem.. With my son) an episode of the tv show set in Times Square which was very similar to the movie. These are not intended to be classic interpretations?

Bingo

I'm with you.

Even in the Ultimate Spider-man COMIC (which the Amazing Spider-man movie series seems to be more aligned to), Electro is yellow, bald and wears a black/purple-ish jumpsuit. He was originally a thug for the Kingpin. His look is not much different from the movie interpretation (with the exception of the blue color).

Ultimate Rhino is indeed a large military suit and is called R.H.I.N.O. In the comic, it's also had the huge 'roided out look of a man in a Rhino costume, just more armored and spiked up. In fact, it's operated by a nerdy, scrawny little guy who sits inside named Alex O'Hirn. Think of it like any character who sits in a big robot armor suit....Gundam, Pacific Rim, practically every Japanese Mecha anime, etc.

It's just a bunch of people who can't keep their minds open to different interpretations and perhaps have not even READ the Ultimate Spider-man comics and are familiar with the Ultimate interpretation. I think both these movie interpretations are fine and I think they'll work well for the flick. With all the hate that these villains get FOR HOW THEY LOOK, I don't understand why fans seem to ignore more "critical" changes like the MCU's African-American Nick Fury (also based on the Ultimate universe comics).

though Electro turned blu in the ultimate comics later on.

 

[ironwez20]

Yea some people dont really seem to grasp that. He was also silverish blue on the 2003 cgi show aswell. His personality was like this one. A loser who wanted to be seen.

 

[Bardoon]

In my opinion, two things brought "The Avengers" and its characters (namely the "Big 3" of Cap, Iron Man and Thor) back into the comics spotlight and eventually led to their movie success.

The 616 Comic story-lines starting from "Avengers Disassembled" and peaking with "Civil War"

AND

The Ultimates.

Some might not be fans, but the first two series of "Ultimates" were critically acclaimed and highly praised. It actually brought the characters back to their roots in a more mature fashion and the basis of "The Avengers" movie actually is framed out of "The Ultimates" Vol 1. Captain America was a "man out of time" but at his roots was a bad a$$ super-soldier not going above eliminating a threat to neutralize it (which is WHAT soldiers do...super-heroes "DON'T"). Thor was cool because they played to the audience a little more whether he was a nutcase OR actually a god...even Loki meddled to try and convince the Ultimates that he was really a nutcase. Bruce Banner was an insecure genius with the Hulk being a brutal extreme of male testosterone (he was a rampaging murderer and even ate his enemies). And the 616 Hawkeye would not be as cool NOW if it wasn't for the super-assassin Ultimate version of Hawkeye (who in one scene, is captured and strapped to a chair. He kills all his captors by tearing out his fingernails and flicking them at his captors' throats).

Pre-Ultimatum (a cross-Ultimate universe storyline involving Magneto), the Ultimate comics were pretty dope and interesting and basically a new take on all of Marvel's characters WITHOUT being inhibited by the 60-70+ years of story lines. This helped tie a lot of links and characters together that eventually were "borrowed" and used in the 616 Universe AND the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The biggest being that the "birth/origins" of various superheroes/villains/mutants is all attributed to various efforts to recreate the super-soldier serum that created Captain America (and was subsequently "lost" during WW2 in similar fashion to the 616 Cap).

Prior to those big storylines, the Avengers were just about the scrubs of the Marvel Universe in the 1990's. They could barely get ANYTHING noteworthy and were even universally rebooted with "Heroes Reborn" to media success but not critical (which led to "Heroes Return" and they got some momentary spotlight thanks to an X-Men villain called Onslaught). It wasn't until "Avengers Disassembled" in 2004-2005 (and the "Ultimates" success in 2002) that people started paying attention to Captain America, Iron Man and Thor again and Marvel refocused on them as big 616 stars (instead of relying on the X-Men and Spider-man like they had during the 90's).

 

[thenammagazine]

Yup. Back then it was all about Wolverine and Spider-Man.

 

[Frank]

Bruce Banner was an insecure genius with the Hulk being a brutal extreme of male testosterone (he was a rampaging murderer and even ate his enemies).

I remember seeing that and thinking after all these years they've finally found a way to make the Hulk suck.

 

[ironwez20]

Now im not 100% sold on this look at all but atleast he looks insane and monsterish. Idk man. Im gonna have to see his performance. It could suck or it could be the best goblin so far. We'll find out in a few weeks.

 

[jye4ever]

Dafoe looked like that without the need of any special effects makeup.

 

[ironwez20]

Even down to the teeth?

 

[Snake Plissken]

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Now im not 100% sold on this look at all but atleast he looks insane and monsterish. Idk man. Im gonna have to see his performance. It could suck or it could be the best goblin so far. We'll find out in a few weeks.

Dafoe looked like that without the need of any special effects makeup.

 

[Rorywan]

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Now im not 100% sold on this look at all but atleast he looks insane and monsterish. Idk man. Im gonna have to see his performance. It could suck or it could be the best goblin so far. We'll find out in a few weeks.

Jesus.. thats pretty hardcore for a bright summer family flick? I approve, I think, I like the way those ear pieces make it look like Goblin ears. It's gonna be down to the performance no doubt. But this looks a lot better than the CG version we have seen buzzing around so far.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

DeHann has got the villainous grin down

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Looks great IMO. Looks like a goblin...

 

[ironwez20]

I wonder if his voice changes when he's in goblin form.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Definately succeeds in giving a creepy vile aesthetic.

This along with the Future Sentinels look the most sinister of this years flicks, imo

A like the chain pmail/scale effect on the green parts of the costume

 

[Rorywan]

Dafoe looked like that without the need of any special effects makeup.

Yeah, but they covered that great performance and face up with a cheap looking metallic green Power Rangers mask for most of the movie.

 

[ironwez20]

Definately succeeds in giving a creepy vile aesthetic.

This along with the Future Sentinels look the most sinister of this years flicks, imo

Im hearing the tmnt look pretty freaking scary but they dont count cuz they are technically heroes.