The Batman (June 25, 2021)

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One day, you will grow into... Maturicus.
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Some people can’t let twilight go but fail to realize that every Batman starred in a crap film. Ben affleck was in freaking gigli
 
I never understood the appeal of Affleck as Batman. He seemed like such a safe choice. I guess that's what it was.

If Tim Burton made Batman in 5 years he'd cast Timothée Chalamet. and only because Tim looks like Tim.
Snyder wanted a taller Batman to a smaller Superman. Remember Affleck was on an incredible run as director/actor. Jon Hamm might have been the other choice as he could pull it off too. But Affleck in BvS and JL showed how superior of an actor he was compared to everyone else. Problem is the dude read too much social media, where the comments drove him into a river of whisky.
 
I have to agree. While I love the designs, costumes, art directions, etc... its a terrible movie. So many cringe moments, so many bad transitions, so much terrible dialogue.

Neither Burton film is on anybody's 'great filmmaking' list, but as bad a movie as '89 is, its better made than Returns. Penguins with rockets? How does the giant Ducky-mobile get up into the party from the sewer exactly? Every time Batman blows up a circus clown, he just walks down the street -- that's right, he's just walking around. On and on...
 
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Penguin was grotesque. Like Fester or something. Max Shreck...really? Then all the other oddities too long to list here.
 
I have to agree. While I love the designs, costumes, art directions, etc... its a terrible movie. So many cringe moments, so many bad transitions, so much terrible dialogue.

Neither Burton film is on anybody's 'great filmmaking' list, but as bad a movie as '89 is, its better made than Returns. Penguins with rockets? How does the giant Ducky-mobile get up into the party from the sewer exactly? Every time Batman blows up a circus clown, he just walks down the street -- that's right, he's just walking around. On and on...
I know that Returns is a poorly made film, but I think nostalgia and production design are what make it re-watchable for me. I can't sit through '89 anymore, and that's mainly because of Nicholson's Joker and the weird Prince interlude.
 
I know that Returns is a poorly made film, but I think nostalgia and production design are what make it re-watchable for me. I can't sit through '89 anymore, and that's mainly because of Nicholson's Joker and the weird Prince interlude.

Yep. As I said, I still love BR for the reasons I stated, but I find it near impossible to sit through. There are movies that are endlessly watchable because they are just so well made... but movies like Batman Returns, well I'd prefer to flip through the 'Art of Batman Returns' than sit through the movie itself. I have thoroughly outgrown it, other than the nostalgic attachment -- meaning I'd buy a Hot Toys Penguin and Catwoman in a millisecond.
 
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