The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[guyver1]

Every week anticipation grows for wed for me and this series so far

 

[TaliBane]

That's funny. Also, are there local news in the SW universe? Or some forms of entertainment like in real life? I don't think they have computers, internet, or televisions either. In some ways they're so advanced, yet unrealistically primitive.

They have casinos, bars, and slave women. ***, alcohol, and gambling are truly universal.

Yeah, the strangest thing in SW is it doesn't seem possible to call from planet to planet, or even from planet to spacecraft a lot of the time, yet other times ("The Emperor commands you to make contact with him", "Yes Lord Vader.... the shield will be down in moments") it is. I mean the probe droid seems to be broadcasting live video from across the galaxy, yet Leia can't e-mail a 10MB Death Star plan file to the rebellion - it needs to be physically carried. Basically, when communications technology is expedient for the story it is possible, but most of the time it isn't.

 

[ajp4mgs]

I do have quite the multiverse of compartmentalized SW canons (lol) but what's fun for me is trying to construct the largest possible canon of "awesome" SW.

Sure if I wanted a "perfect" canon then I'd only include the theatrical SW and ESB and call it a day but that just isn't as fun IMO.

My largest head canon that I find syncs together pretty seamlessly is Solo/RO/OT/Mando/ST. But as I've said before sometimes I like to humor a larger alternate canon that includes the PT and TCW. For the animated stuff though I always look at it as an approximation of what really happened just due to the exaggerated reality depicted in those stories. The "camp fire" versions of what "really happened" if you will. Where in those tellings Jedi can leap a hundred yards, young Boba's whininess and moral compass are exaggerated, and so on. So if something is a bit off in a cartoon it doesn't sit with me as poorly as something being off in live-action.

And I don't know if you recall but even on the days when I am feeling charitable toward the PT (due to the nostalgia that it now has, the toyetic designs, or what have you) I *still* hate what they did to Fett's backstory so usually my head canon just says that Jango named his kid after the real Boba Fett (who later kills his poser son and sounds like Jason Wingreen.)

Getting back to BOBF it's live-action so I'm less forgiving when it comes to such a blatant departure from an iconic OT character so into the multiverse it goes--way, waaaay down on the list of canons.

I guess I can understand how applying a "campfire" interpretation to animated shows would work since it already presents differently than live-action (which, yes, has to be the actual "true" story).

In that case, all I can suggest to make BoBF fit into your top-tier canon (if the remaining episodes get good enough) is to attribute the change to the Sarlacc. This would require no flashbacks showing the lame Fett characterization in the OT era, though. But as long as they avoid going there, you could just assume that mind-altering chemical changes are a byproduct of the Sarlacc sludge. Post-Sarlacc Boba with altered mind therefore thinks and behaves differently than his OT persona. Not an elegant fix for preserving the true OT Fett, but it's something.

For me, I accepted that BoBF would be a lost cause once the trailers started emphasizing "respect" and took it as a likely sign of an honorable anti-hero rather than ruthless villain. And when I went back to revisit his Mando appearances, all the signs were there (helmet coming off in Slave I, helping the good guys because of his "honor code," that scrap with Koska, etc.). I hadn't guessed the backstory for the gaffi stick and Tusken rifle, but it was clearly mapped out all along as part of the overall re-brand of the character. The scene with Bib had given me hope of a return to true Fett, but I guess it was just meant to be an anti-hero eliminating a scummy bad guy to take the throne and run things differently.

 

[Khev]

Yeah, the strangest thing in SW is it doesn't seem possible to call from planet to planet, or even from planet to spacecraft a lot of the time, yet other times ("The Emperor commands you to make contact with him", "Yes Lord Vader.... the shield will be down in moments") it is. I mean the probe droid seems to be broadcasting live video from across the galaxy, yet Leia can't e-mail a 10MB Death Star plan file to the rebellion - it needs to be physically carried. Basically, when communications technology is expedient for the story it is possible, but most of the time it isn't.

So true, the continuity for long range broadcasts really is all over the place isn't it. One moment Palpatine can communicate directly with Queen Amidala on Naboo from Coruscant (!?) and her starship can receive broadcasts from Sio Bibble (why didn't he just call the Senate, lol) but *they* inexplicably can't call out to Coruscant to request a rescue.

RO has several scenes of system to system communication (Cassian receiving orders to eliminate Galen Erso while en route to Eadu, Jyn's mom calling Saw at the beginning), ROTS has Palpatine speaking to Grievous on Utapau and Anakin on Mustafar and then there's that scene you mentioned in ESB where Vader receives the transmission from an assumedly far away Emperor. But then whenever a quick transmission would basically negate the plot of an entire movie it suddenly ceases to exist as an option, lol.

As for SW "news" there was that one scene where Cobb Vanth watches the DS II explode (which was assumedly replicated throughout the galaxy if the simultaneous planetary celebrations are to be believed) and then those little floating cameras that would follow those speaking at Senate meetings. One unused suggestion that Spielberg had for ROTS was to have Yoda and Palpatine's lightsaber duel being broadcast live throughout the entire galaxy as they fought.

 

[Khev]

I guess I can understand how applying a "campfire" interpretation to animated shows would work since it already presents differently than live-action (which, yes, has to be the actual "true" story).

In that case, all I can suggest to make BoBF fit into your top-tier canon (if the remaining episodes get good enough) is to attribute the change to the Sarlacc. This would require no flashbacks showing the lame Fett characterization in the OT era, though. But as long as they avoid going there, you could just assume that mind-altering chemical changes are a byproduct of the Sarlacc sludge. Post-Sarlacc Boba with altered mind therefore thinks and behaves differently than his OT persona. Not an elegant fix for preserving the true OT Fett, but it's something.

For me, I accepted that BoBF would be a lost cause once the trailers started emphasizing "respect" and took it as a likely sign of an honorable anti-hero rather than ruthless villain. And when I went back to revisit his Mando appearances, all the signs were there (helmet coming off in Slave I, helping the good guys because of his "honor code," that scrap with Koska, etc.). I hadn't guessed the backstory for the gaffi stick and Tusken rifle, but it was clearly mapped out all along as part of the overall re-brand of the character. The scene with Bib had given me hope of a return to true Fett, but I guess it was just meant to be an anti-hero eliminating a scummy bad guy to take the throne and run things differently.

I think like you I just need Fett to remain a villain (and a badass one at that) regardless of how well they explain why he'd be "reformed." So on this matter I relate to those who dismiss the ST simply because they don't like the idea of Luke or Han ending up in the positions they were.

I might have been more open to him being a good guy if they maintained the level he was at on Tython but now that he's been dragged through the mud so horrifically I don't see there being any going back. Never say never I suppose, I was 100% convinced that making movies about the opening crawl of ANH and Han Solo's backstory were *terrible* ideas that I was wonderfully proven wrong on so we'll see how the rest of BOBF plays out but right now I don't see this new version of the character as being salvageable.

I do appreciate you trying to help me reconcile his new turn though since it's always more fun to like something than not.

 

[Wor-Gar]

How long was Boba inside the Sarlacc? Hours, weeks, months?

If he is supposed to be "digested over a thousand years", his armor and skin (protect by helmet) sure started to dissolve quickly.

If it is brief, not sure why he was so "digested"... and if he was in there for weeks or months, what was holding him there? Are there Hentai tentacles that were removed in the Disney+ version I saw?

 

[Khev]

How long was Boba inside the Sarlacc? Hours, weeks, months?

Apparently short enough for *one gulp of oxygen* from a ST's mask to be all that he needed to survive. So...four minutes I guess, lol.

 

[darth dennis]

Apparently short enough for *one gulp of oxygen* from a ST's mask to be all that he needed to survive. So...four minutes I guess, lol.

I chose to ignore that little oddity. So, you need oxygen immediately but the armor got completely trashed. I guess I can buy that the acid continued to eat away at the armor after he escaped and laid in the Tatooine sun...

 

[Khev]

I chose to ignore that little oddity. So, you need oxygen immediately but the armor got completely trashed. I guess I can buy that the acid continued to eat away at the armor after he escaped and laid in the Tatooine sun...

Yes it really is just stupid on *so* many levels, lol. So you only experience a new definition of pain and suffering if the Sarlacc keeps you alive over a thousand years...and you have a portable oxygen tank nearby? Nice little omission there 3PO.

If I were to hand wave that moment away I'd say that the digestive fluids had already started to make him go insane to the point that he *thought* he needed more air when he really didn't.

 

[Wor-Gar]

If I were hand wave that moment away I'd say that the digestive fluids had already started to make him go insane to the point that he *thought* he needed more air when he really didn't.

That's dedicated justification.

 

[Khev]

If I were to hand wave it away, if, lol. That's just a freebie for anyone who actually wants this train wreck (no pun intended) to be canon.

 

[karamazov80]

Here I thought Favreau was going to “fix” the PT….

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Not looking good for Vader.

Off-topic, but I recently saw both Evilspeak and Ice Cream Man. . .I am a Clint Howard fan, and I'm not afraid to tell the world. In fact, he should have been Boba Fett, dammit.

 

[darth dennis]

That's dedicated justification.

The Star Wars fanbase knows no bounds...good OR bad

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

If I were to hand wave it away, if, lol. That's just a freebie for anyone who actually wants this train wreck (no pun intended) to be canon.

Kids don't care about canon. Canon is for old people.

 

[Khev]

Kids don't care about canon. Canon is for old people.

Well I'm an old person so what's your point, lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Well I'm an old person so what's your point, lol.

I just think cherry picking what's canon and what isn't is kind of pointless.

 

[TaliBane]

Off-topic, but I recently saw both Evilspeak and Ice Cream Man. . .I am a Clint Howard fan, and I'm not afraid to tell the world. In fact, he should have been Boba Fett, dammit.

It would have been most awesome.

How long was Boba inside the Sarlacc? Hours, weeks, months?

If he is supposed to be "digested over a thousand years", his armor and skin (protect by helmet) sure started to dissolve quickly.

If it is brief, not sure why he was so "digested"... and if he was in there for weeks or months, what was holding him there? Are there Hentai tentacles that were removed in the Disney+ version I saw?

And what ever happened to the "Pit of Carkoon"? Seems like it's only ever "Sarlacc" these days.

 

[Khev]

I just think cherry picking what's canon and what isn't is kind of pointless.

And why is that?

 

[matticus]

I just think cherry picking what's canon and what isn't is kind of pointless.

The only canon that matters is money.

 

[matticus]

The only canon that matters is money.

Georgie made it clear with his tiers of canon. He broke his own canon with the SE then the PT.