The Book Of Boba Fett (December 2021)

[DarkChocobi]

 

[a-dev]

There's no betrayal of Luke's character by taking attachments into account and offering Grogu a choice. In fact, I have no idea where the notion came from that Lucas was presenting the Jedi view of no attachments in the PT as some sort of dogmatic flaw of the Jedi Order. I wish someone could point out to me what that interpretation is based on, because everything I've ever heard and read from Lucas suggests no such thing.

Well I think it's because this idea of no attachments is alien to most humans. That whole philosophy itself seems confusing and contradictory. You're encouraged to love but you cannot 'have' love?? WTF? And we do tend to view it as a causal factor in Anakin's turn to the darkside. If Anakin had simply been allowed to free his mother from slavery as he wanted or to even go check on her at some point, if he had been allowed to love someone openly and not have to keep it a secret - he would have had so fewer reasons to resent the Jedi. Given how we identify with his need to keep people he loves safe - 'attachments' as the Jedi call it - that's just basic humanity to us - we the audience blame the Jedi for his turn at least as much as any other reason and so that gives us the impression that the films are presenting the Jedi teachings as flawed since they contributed in no small part to everything that follows.

But yes, your Lucas quotes do suggest more that he is advocating the Jedi philosophy and, I guess, putting all the responsibility on Anakin. And yet all I can think is how the hell this doesn't happen with every second or third student. It IS a flawed philosophy. I find it so silly it's a big reason I've never liked the PT

 

[greygoose]

But yes, your Lucas quotes do suggest more that he is advocating the Jedi philosophy and, I guess, putting all the responsibility on Anakin. And yet all I can think is how the hell this doesn't happen with every second or third student. It IS a flawed philosophy. I find it so silly it's a big reason I've never liked the PT

Still time for Grogu to resent the Jedi and turn to the Sith or Mandalorian ways.

 

[a-dev]

Actually I know why it doesn't happen with every second or third student - it's because the Jedi normally abduct children before they've had time to form bonds with anyone or anything and they indoctrinate them from there. That's OK then.

 

[greygoose]

Actually I know why it doesn't happen with every second or third student - it's because the Jedi normally abduct children before they've had time to form bonds with anything. That's OK then.

 

[a-dev]

Only joking it's of course completely ****ed up

 

[TaliBane]

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He's become another bald guy playing second fiddle to a cooler dude.

 

[greygoose]

Only joking it's of course completely ****ed up

Yep.

 

[e30ernest]

I've just caught up to all this.. This show is a mess lol.... I mean there were seeds for good stories, but this was very poorly executed. The last 2 episodes were good but only because they were essentially Mandalorian episodes. I feel bad for Temuera and Ming-Na. They aren't getting the chance to shine on their own story.

 

[darth dennis]

Worthy mention to the scene where Mando is watching Grogu up on the hill. For a helmeted character that scene really gives you the feels. Portrays so much emotion without the use of facial expressions.

Wait...so you can leave the helmet on AND still act? Huh.

 

[The Buffinator]

There's no betrayal of Luke's character by taking attachments into account and offering Grogu a choice. In fact, I have no idea where the notion came from that Lucas was presenting the Jedi view of no attachments in the PT as some sort of dogmatic flaw of the Jedi Order. I wish someone could point out to me what that interpretation is based on, because everything I've ever heard and read from Lucas suggests no such thing.

Lucas has addressed this in his director's commentaries, he's been filmed teaching his staff on TCW about it, and he's given countless interviews on the subject. There shouldn't be any confusion about why George included the no attachments concept, and how it aligns with his own personal ideology (which is rooted quite a bit in Eastern philosophy).

From one of the Rinzler books, Lucas puts it this way:

"No human can let go. It’s very hard. Ultimately, we do let go because it’s inevitable; you do die, and you do lose your loved ones. But while you’re alive, you can’t be obsessed with holding on. Because holding on is in the same category and the precursor to greed. [...]The Jedi are trained to let go. They’re trained from birth, they’re not supposed to form attachments. They can love people - in fact, they should love everybody. They should love their enemies; they should love the Sith. But they can’t form attachments. So, what all these movies are about is greed. Greed is a source of pain and suffering for everybody. And the ultimate state of greed is the desire to cheat death."

And from the Archives book (prequel version):

"They trained more than anything else to understand the transitional nature of life, that things are constantly changing and you can’t hold on to anything. You can love things but you can’t be attached to them. You must be willing to let the flow of life and the flow of the Force move through your life, move through you. So that you can be compassionate and loving and caring, but not be possessive and grabbing and holding on to things and trying to keep things the way they are." ***

*** ".....Except for Star Wars action figures, vehicles and related accessories. A Jedi and fans of the Jedi should definitely become attached to them and possess as many as possible."

 

[greygoose]

Wait...so you can leave the helmet on AND still act? Huh.

It's a shame no-one told Morrison.

 

[punisher1974]

Melange a trois: a lady mechanic, two Jawas and a pile of drugs?

And no grooming accessories nearby.

 

[karamazov80]

I enjoyed that episode, though I'm not a big fan of CG Luke. Takes me out of the moment when I see this weird, uncanny valley looking mofo. Somehow the CG aliens bother me much less. On that note, I really liked the badass, blue cowboy alien. As others are saying, he is acting like Boba Fett should, but. . .whatever. I'm assuming Olyphant will live because he was only shot once in the shoulder and was receiving medical attention while the townsfolk ignored his deputy that got shot 10 times. And I'm assuming that will galvanize the town to take up arms against the East India Company army or whatever the spice lord dudes are supposed to represent.

Well I think it's because this idea of no attachments is alien to most humans. That whole philosophy itself seems confusing and contradictory. You're encouraged to love but you cannot 'have' love?? WTF? And we do tend to view it as a causal factor in Anakin's turn to the darkside. If Anakin had simply been allowed to free his mother from slavery as he wanted or to even go check on her at some point, if he had been allowed to love someone openly and not have to keep it a secret - he would have had so fewer reasons to resent the Jedi. Given how we identify with his need to keep people he loves safe - 'attachments' as the Jedi call it - that's just basic humanity to us - we the audience blame the Jedi for his turn at least as much as any other reason and so that gives us the impression that the films are presenting the Jedi teachings as flawed since they contributed in no small part to everything that follows.

But yes, your Lucas quotes do suggest more that he is advocating the Jedi philosophy and, I guess, putting all the responsibility on Anakin. And yet all I can think is how the hell this doesn't happen with every second or third student. It IS a flawed philosophy. I find it so silly it's a big reason I've never liked the PT

Star Wars philosophy is so silly, contradictory, and inconsistent. Best not to think about it very much.

 

[greygoose]

Take the Boba out of Book of Boba and this place becomes a wasteland.

 

[Khev]

I enjoyed that episode, though I'm not a big fan of CG Luke. Takes me out of the moment when I see this weird, uncanny valley looking mofo.

I'm so glad that my eyes don't see the same flaws as some of you. There was one moment (when he was speaking to Ahsoka and wondering how he should handle further training of Grogu) where the illusion dropped and for a brief moment when he was at kind of a three quarter angle he had fake looking eyes but for me pretty much every single other moment was just as if I was watching a true continuation of Star Wars with 1988 Mark Hamill as Luke training a pupil in the ways of the Force 5 years after ROTJ.

Even a second time through the illusion still held up. Truly surreal that this was even possible (again, for me at least.)

 

[Bleah]

Can anyone tell me exactly what reason Han Solo would have to show up in this show?

To accidentally poke Boba's jet pack which sends him flying 20 miles from the center of conflict and back into another Sarlacc's mouth.

Maybe Grogu becomes the ruler of Mandalore since he is both Jedi and a Mandalorian. Mando is just the set up. More long lasting merch for Disney.

 

[user 64404]

Actually In fact, do you think the reason Luke keeps training Grogu even after Grogu chooses the chainmail is what will make him leave Ben with doubts about the light and dark side of the force believing that, like Grogu, he will prevail over the dark side.

It would also make his failure as a teacher even greater.

Maybe his success with Grogu is what will lead him to his greatest fall.

Lets not forget that his failure ties along with the fact that Ben was his family and like Obi-wan, he was too close to see the flaws of his student.

 

[Khev]

All I know is that based on what we saw in yesterday's episode they should use that same team of movie magic wizards and give us an ongoing continuation of Luke's story *now* while Mark is still alive and the body double/Deepfake team is firing on all cylinders. The Acolyte? Seriously? This shouldn't even be a conversation. Give us more ninja Luke!

 

[greygoose]

To accidentally poke Boba's jet pack which sends him flying 20 miles from the center of conflict and back into another Sarlacc's mouth.

Back where he started. Pretty much what his character deserves.