The Dark Knight Rises *SPOILERS*

[AMAZEN]

I'm seeing this a second time in about an hour. I've been hearing it is more enjoyable the second time through.

K now i gotta go see it again too, cause the first time was kick ass!

 

[Ven]

alright..... death! by exile!!

 

[greygoose]

I can't think of anything I would change about him other than revert to original prologue audio.

I've never heard this, what was it like?

 

[intothevoid]

I've never heard this, what was it like?

It was much creepier, more metallic, and with a far better performance I felt

I have the bootleg, I'll upload it if I can

 

[Batman29]

I went to the premiere opening on Thursday evening, 11:59 pm.

I got dressed in my Batman Dark Knight outfit and headed off to the theatres with a couple of buddies.

If you are expecting a short movie, full of stunts, explosions throughout the whole movie, and a usual plot, you will be disappointed.

If you like long movies (2 hr 45 minutes) but do not seem that long, main characters which are given time to develop throughout the movie, an extensive plot with twists when it looks like one thing but is another, and requires your attention from the other movies to link this one, then this movie is for you.

I was expecting Ann Hathaway to be an ok Catwoman ... I was wrong, she was SPECTACULAR!

All the characters (and behind the scenes people) pulled their weight and more to make this movie a go.

I think some people may have been a bit disappointed with the outcome of the movie to some degree.

Rating:

Batman Begins 10/10
Batman Dark Knight: 9/10
Batman Dark Knight Rises: 10/10

I am going to see this movie again in the theatres.

I know, I have a biased towards Batman ... and this bias, along with it being a good movie, is why I am going to see it again in the theatres, lol.

But a great written story, a great plot ... is a great written story, a great plot whether you may like the story or not. This movie, IMO, has this.

 

[intothevoid]

I can't think of anything I would change about him other than revert to original prologue audio.

Edit: I would also give him a more satisfying death, yes.

 

[MasterSafara]

Bane was badass. Anyone who thinks other-wise doesn't know a good villain.

 

[Batman29]

I'm seeing this a second time in about an hour. I've been hearing it is more enjoyable the second time through.

The reason there are so many people seeing this movie a second time is the movie itself not only has depth, it is also designed to have layers in the plot through time.

Nolan was also exceptional in how he chose critically points in the movie to tie in the other two.

It is one of those movies which actually requires a person's attention to what the characters are saying and doing.

Absolutely an Epic movie.

I believe it will withstand the test of time.

 

[jye4ever]

My biggest gripe is the editing and pacing of the film. It's down right jarring. The movie gets better with each viewing but how poorly it was put together is more evident each time.

Best example is at the hospital after Wayne talks with his doctor about his health. After talking with him he decides to go out of a window to talk to Gordon.

The next shot is immediately at Gordon's bed side. This should be an intimate moment. The character's are now meeting again for the first time since the last film. Where is Gordon's reaction of this guy coming through the window? What about Wayne's reaction upon seeing his friend bed ridden and hurt? These guys go way back, the scene should be slower and emotional. Hell, even the teaser feels like there's more at stake here than the actual film does.

It's frustrating that it just cuts immediately to Wayne holding his hand while they're in mid-discussion.


Can I fill in the blanks myself? Certainly. But it'd be nice if there were parts that gave the audience time to breath and take things in. There's absolutely none of that.

TDKR makes the Dark Knight's third act look tame in comparison. It's like Nolan, his brother and Goyer throw as many themes, story elements and ideas onto the wall and hoped they stick. I can keep up with it and thankfully, Nolan's script repeats and hits things on the head multiple times throughout the discussion but c'mon, this isn't a race.

There are some great moments and ideas that they work with in this one but it's frustrating when they're quickly abandoned or ignored for a new plot idea later on. That's how I'd describe most of the film, frustrating.

This man speaks the truth

 

[MasterSafara]

Gordon was sedated that's why he passed out. I'm not sure what kinda of reaction you were hoping for keeping what I just pointed out in mind.

 

[jye4ever]

Sewer Bane sounded like Vader talking to Luke in ESB.

 

[jye4ever]

I didn't buy that Batman couldn't inflict any damage on him during their first encounter in the sewers. Yeah, perhaps the blows from his punches weren't as strong as they were till the end, but Batman got some hits in. I know Batman's heart wasn't in it 100% and it had been 8 years since he was last active, but the ease of Bane's victory didn't feel real. Batman is literally on top of him at one point, POUNDING his face and chest in desperation and it has no effect on him. Fast forward later on where he's punching Bane in the face and his mask is starting to break.

Bane was just written in as this unstoppable, unbeatable force during that sequence, that part of the film. Did I want Batman to be unbeaten and invincible? No. I know the whole point of the scene is to "break Batman" and destroy his morale but I just didn't believe it coming from Bane.

That and his goofy "I'M THE VILLAIN, LOOK AT ME" lines,


"I AM DA LEAGUE OF SHADOOOOOOOWS"


"I WAS BOWRN IN DAHKNESS BETMEN" (right as he snatches Batman up despite being able to smell Batman coming)



Had Bane been his own man (the involvement with the LOS left a bad taste in my mouth. It felt like fan fiction that became reality), had his voice been more serious and threatening, I might have bought into him. To me he's one of the goofiest and least charismatic film villains I've ever seen. He's like Ivan Drago/Whiplash or something. It made me miss the Joker even more.

An argument could be made that you're not supposed to like Bane but, for me, a good villain is a likeable villain and one that you could identify with. On every level Bane fails to wow me. Visually, the characterization and his voice. A few moments like the ones I listed above are good, even great to me, but Bane as a whole fails to wow me. He's just there hamming up scenes with speeches and breaking necks. He's not imposing, scary, or freighting.

Any comparisons to Darth Vader or those that think he's as good or better than the Joker is insulting to me.

You're on a roll.

But I just compared Bane to Vader.

 

[Wor-Gar]

I got dressed in my Batman Dark Knight outfit and headed off to the theatres with a couple of buddies.

I'm sorry, I cannot trust your review. Too passionate.

 

[intothevoid]

I'm sorry, I cannot trust your review. Too passionate.

Go out and watch it already

 

[MasterSafara]

Sewer Bane sounded like Vader talking to Luke in ESB.

Yeah didn't sound anything line that.

Fail *yawn*

 

[Ziggie]

I can't think of anything I would change about him other than revert to original prologue audio.

I would also give him a more satisfying death, yes.

My exact thoughts.

The new prologue voice and the bits of changed dialogue was terrible.

 

[DiFabio]

This man speaks the truth

You're on a roll.

Jye and A-dev are like my ____ing brothers separated at birth or something. We're usually always in agreement when it comes to a particular topic. I always find myself thinking like and agreeing with those two freaks.

 

[MasterSafara]

Where can I hear the original prologue audio of Bane's voice?

 

[Sachiel]

Fast forward later on where he's punching Bane in the face and his mask is starting to break.

Pretty sure he breaks it first with his gauntlet blades.

My biggest gripe is the editing and pacing of the film. It's down right jarring. The movie gets better with each viewing but how poorly it was put together is more evident each time.

Best example is at the hospital after Wayne talks with his doctor about his health. After talking with him he decides to go out of a window to talk to Gordon.

The next shot is immediately at Gordon's bed side. This should be an intimate moment. The character's are now meeting again for the first time since the last film. Where is Gordon's reaction of this guy coming through the window? What about Wayne's reaction upon seeing his friend bed ridden and hurt? These guys go way back, the scene should be slower and emotional. Hell, even the teaser feels like there's more at stake here than the actual film does.

It's frustrating that it just cuts immediately to Wayne holding his hand while they're in mid-discussion.


Can I fill in the blanks myself? Certainly. But it'd be nice if there were parts that gave the audience time to breath and take things in. There's absolutely none of that.

TDKR makes the Dark Knight's third act look tame in comparison. It's like Nolan, his brother and Goyer throw as many themes, story elements and ideas onto the wall and hoped they stick. I can keep up with it and thankfully, Nolan's script repeats and hits things on the head multiple times throughout the discussion but c'mon, this isn't a race.

There are some great moments and ideas that they work with in this one but it's frustrating when they're quickly abandoned or ignored for a new plot idea later on. That's how I'd describe most of the film, frustrating.

Agree. I was very disappointed with that first meeting for the very same reasons. There was a lot crammed into this movie. Too much even. Scenes went by too quickly that needed more room to breath. And certain points could have been simplified or removed altogether for a much tighter and stronger story.

Like I was really hoping for there to be much more parallels between Bruce and Bane, but I feel Talia undermined that.

 

[intothevoid]

Pretty sure he breaks it first with his gauntlet blades.

Correct.

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