jye4ever
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Yup the escalation towards their fight could’ve easily been resolved it felt forced.
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jye4ever
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Everything DC got pushed back. I understand Aquaman against Avatar with both being underwater. DC Pets took Black Adam's slot, Black Adam to Oct (weird) and Shazam up to Aquaman's slot. Perhaps spreading out the universe a little more?
Neal136
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Oh, they're spreading something .....
jye4ever
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Damn not going to see Keaton in costume for another 15 months now…..ughhhh. 
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Imagine if Star Wars got pushed back to May 1978, or if Batman got pushed back to June 1990, or if Terminator 2 got pushed back to July 1992.
Once you set the date for a film and declare that date to the marketplace, a set of forces are set in action. You set that whole motion in action, doubly so when you have a Super Bowl trailer with said dates. The exhibitors, the distributors, the merchandising companies, the media, all the people involved, build towards that date. It's very perilous to change that date. I'm not talking a day or two, but once you start changing it a week, a month, a year later, three things happen. 1. People think the film is no good. 2. it costs enormous amounts of more money 3. you get out of sync with all the forces you that you used to market the film, to bring it to that moment where the expectation of the audience is fully realized by the movie. Once a studio picks a date, it creates a force that can work for you, or against you.
In WB's case, it always seems to work against them. No idea why studios continue to do this. It shows a lack of faith in your film. Sure, these studios can blame the pandemic, but c'mon, they've been doing this for the past 8 years.
What gets me is, DC/WB is always the first one with the idea. Batman v Superman (in production before Captain America: Civil War) and The Flash (in production before Spider-Man: No Way Home) could have put a stamp on certain film firsts, such as multiverses and multiple actors coming back to flesh out their interpretations of a character. Each time, Marvel beats them to the punch and it becomes old hat.
They had years to get a Michael Keaton Batman film up off the ground and have been promoting the idea well before a trailer even popped up. Now by the time the movie hits, people will have had enough of it. Then with him appearing in Batgirl next? Too much, too late.
Once you set the date for a film and declare that date to the marketplace, a set of forces are set in action. You set that whole motion in action, doubly so when you have a Super Bowl trailer with said dates. The exhibitors, the distributors, the merchandising companies, the media, all the people involved, build towards that date. It's very perilous to change that date. I'm not talking a day or two, but once you start changing it a week, a month, a year later, three things happen. 1. People think the film is no good. 2. it costs enormous amounts of more money 3. you get out of sync with all the forces you that you used to market the film, to bring it to that moment where the expectation of the audience is fully realized by the movie. Once a studio picks a date, it creates a force that can work for you, or against you.
In WB's case, it always seems to work against them. No idea why studios continue to do this. It shows a lack of faith in your film. Sure, these studios can blame the pandemic, but c'mon, they've been doing this for the past 8 years.
What gets me is, DC/WB is always the first one with the idea. Batman v Superman (in production before Captain America: Civil War) and The Flash (in production before Spider-Man: No Way Home) could have put a stamp on certain film firsts, such as multiverses and multiple actors coming back to flesh out their interpretations of a character. Each time, Marvel beats them to the punch and it becomes old hat.
They had years to get a Michael Keaton Batman film up off the ground and have been promoting the idea well before a trailer even popped up. Now by the time the movie hits, people will have had enough of it. Then with him appearing in Batgirl next? Too much, too late.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Damn not going to see Keaton in costume for another 15 months now…..ughhhh.
WB will give it away in trailers and online clips.
jye4ever
Broke and happy
WB franchise momentum
WB was always smart ass with their release dates. If I recall correctly, Marvel always laid the dates out first. WB would come in with their DC crap and put it either the same week or week before. Then they would end up moving it, always with the white flag. To have The Flash be a week from Black Panther 2 is retardo thinking. To have Shazam 4 days before Avatar 2 is essentially destroying the box office for that film.
"Oh, it works cause it is a family film that close to Christmas."
Yeah, no one is going to care with all the Avatar 2 buzz.
"Oh, it works cause it is a family film that close to Christmas."
Yeah, no one is going to care with all the Avatar 2 buzz.
The Clown Prince of Crime
Super Freak
Seen this little nugget on a Batman FB page:
Ok that is gold. The irony, Tommy Lee Jones having a reputation of being a scene stealer, only to get every scene stolen from him a year later by an even bigger scene stealer, Jim Carrey, is hilarious to me.
Also, I wonder how much of that is true. That was before the internet was popular.
The rest of the news are hilarious too.
The "Parcel Bomb Mystery" actually reads like a Batman villain origin story.
The "Nude Marines" chasing women through the streets of a jungle town is something out of the news from Robocop.
Prime Clone
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I got the impression BvS' delay was a reaction to the success of the MCU and WB bosses wanting to fast-track Justice League.
As for returning actors, the MCU is welcome to keep that!
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The fast track to Justice league was the dumbest thing they’ve ever done. All they had to do to compete with marvel was
make a Superman movie that was good.
Make a Batman movie/crossover Superman movie
Make a Wonder Woman movie
Make the flash
then make the jl movie. Boom. You could introduce Aquaman and cyborg in the jl movie and develop them after but you’d have enough character development to compete with the mcu .
To go from Superman to a Batman vs Superman movie to the jl was a stupid move to try and compete . No wonder they failed.
make a Superman movie that was good.
Make a Batman movie/crossover Superman movie
Make a Wonder Woman movie
Make the flash
then make the jl movie. Boom. You could introduce Aquaman and cyborg in the jl movie and develop them after but you’d have enough character development to compete with the mcu .
To go from Superman to a Batman vs Superman movie to the jl was a stupid move to try and compete . No wonder they failed.
abake
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So I'm guessing this huge delay also involves some sort of re-shoots?
Wasn't there a rumor that Cavill would also appear? Not very likely IMHO, but...
Or maybe they want Pattinson in it as well?
Wasn't there a rumor that Cavill would also appear? Not very likely IMHO, but...
Or maybe they want Pattinson in it as well?
jye4ever
Broke and happy
Word is
Or just file this under false hope lol
Affleck’s Batman death in the Flash has been changed to him living because WB wants to keep all options open just in case he becomes a thing again. Keaton is still the primary Batman but Affleck no longer dies he just goes off on a mission!
Or just file this under false hope lol
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