The Matrix 4

[Wor-Gar]

Wonder if our Neo will somehow meet his younger, future replacement, the 7th Iteration?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Neo opens the door...

"Who are you?"

You. I fixed the Matrix. The end.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Rey Strikes Again!

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Rey who?

I'm Rey. Rey Anderson.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Missus Anderson...

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Come to think of it, Neo has a new name in the new Matrix, probably because the machines don't want him to remember who he is/was, so if that's the case, that's already a major plot hole in this film, imo.

 

[Wor-Gar]

His new name.... Ted.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He's got a new name, new image, new job, new life and the machines are keeping him hooked on blue pills to keep Neo asleep. That's all good and logical, except without getting into spoilers, the nature of Neo's new life and job are heavily connected to the old films and The Matrix. Why put him in a situation that will obviously trigger his memories of his past life? Why not put Neo in Colorado working as a lumberjack away from everything that can wake him up or make him suspicious. The obvious answers is because then we don't have a movie, but...whatever, it's a movie.

 

[Rotfish]

He's got a new name, new image, new job, new life and the machines are keeping him hooked on blue pills to keep Neo asleep. That's all good and logical, except without getting into spoilers, the nature of Neo's new life and job are heavily connected to the old films and The Matrix. Why put him in a situation that will obviously trigger his memories of his past life? Why not put Neo in Colorado working as a lumberjack away from everything that can wake him up or make him suspicious. The obvious answers is because then we don't have a movie, but...whatever, it's a movie.

Maybe he serves a purpose for the machines with the position he has. Being a peddler of tech (if the leaks are true) helps to keep other humans enslaved. Could also be an easier way to keep an eye on him and control him. If Neo were to "emerge" when he was out in the woods, how believable would it be for someone to show up in the middle of nowhere and feed him pills or put a bug in his belly? Anything that the Matrix does to him has to have a certain level of believability, otherwise his body would reject the program -- assuming he's jacked in the way people usually are.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

assuming he's jacked in the way people usually are.

I think so. NOT A SPOILER

I watched the trailer frame by frame in super slow motion ( ) and you can see a naked Neo with lots of machines around him nursing him and his eyes are missing. Then a later shot shows him in one of those liquid pods and him waking up like in the first film without the hair and his eyes look normal, so that means the machines fixed his body and put him back in a normal capsule. His capsule is probably in a VIP room, not with the general population where you and I sleep.

 

[TaliBane]

A lot of classic movies in '99. Fight Club, The Mummy, American Pie, Office Space, The Sixth Sense.

Is the 1999 Mummy a classic movie?

 

[Otomofan]

I've watched the trailer like 10 times already, probably because of the music.

That's not an accident. Trailers use the same songs over and over and over to get a Pavlovian response out of audiences.

For the last few years they've been syncing the action up with the song (like in the original Suicide Squad trailer) to make the connection deeper, but it's likely the song won't even be in the movie.

This song was chosen cause it's already a pop culture cliche that was run into the ground decades ago. "Oh is something weird or trippy? Feed your head, man."

Just look at all the vomit from the wikipedia page for references to this song in pop culture.

Jefferson Airplane's version of White Rabbit is used in the "Underworld" bunker smoking scene in Platoon, written and directed by Oliver Stone, which was released in 1986.[27]

In the 1998 film Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Dr. Gonzo, high on LSD, is listening to "White Rabbit" in the bathtub. He asks Raoul Duke to throw the tape player into the bathtub when the song "peaks" but Duke refuses and throws in a grapefruit instead.

In the 1999 Futurama episode "A Head in the Polls" Richard Nixon sings an alternate version of "White Rabbit". In 1969, Nixon hosted a tea party for graduates of Finch College, and Slick was invited under her former name of Grace Wing. She brought a known political protester as her guest, and planned to spike Nixon's tea with 600 micrograms of LSD. He comments that he is meeting those 'stupid hippies' halfway by singing a song about an LSD trip written by a woman who attempted to drug him with it.

A remixed version of Jefferson Airplane's version was used as main menu theme for the 2004 game Battlefield Vietnam.

The song is also used in the 2016 game Mafia III, it can be heard on one of the game's three radio stations.

It is heard in Kong: Skull Island (2017) when Randa and Hawkins enter a bar in Saigon where Conrad is playing billiards.

Featured in a full-length commercial for the Xbox 360 game Lost Odyssey.

Jefferson Airplane's version appears in a 2020 TV commercial for Celebrity Cruises and in a 2015 feature film documenting the life of American chess Grandmaster Bobby Fischer titled Pawn Sacrifice.

Appears in American Dad Season 5, episode 1, when Steve is on his way to rescue his father Stan in a Vietnam war reenactment.

The song appears in The Sopranos season 1, episode 7, "Down Neck", over the ending credits and while Tony remembers his childhood after taking Prozac.

Used in the 1997 David Fincher film The Game starring Michael Douglas during the scene where Nicholas Van Orton (Douglas) comes home to find his mansion vandalized by CRS and photos and police reports of his father's suicide in the clown's mouth.

Jefferson Airplane's version was featured in a scene in the first episode of the Netflix show Stranger Things.

It was used in an episode of Warehouse 13 on the SyFy network. Pete and Myka go to Las Vegas to fetch an artifact, the Jubilee Grand Casino Chip, that is helping a married couple to win at the Casinos, but the mission goes awry because the real Myka is trapped in Lewis Carroll's Looking Glass with some help from Studio 54 Disco Ball.

The song is also featured in The Handmaid's Tale in season 1, episode 8, "Jezebels".

The song appears in an episode of Big Little Lies when Ziggy is suspended from school and spends the day with his mom at the Monterey Aquarium.

The song is also featured in the episode "Blue Scorpion" in Season 1, Episode 9 of the 2019 remake of The Twilight Zone.

The song is used in the beginning of the 10th episode of the 2nd Season of Supernatural, "Hunted".[28]

The song is used in episode 6 of the HBO documentary miniseries Q: Into the Storm in a scene depicting the January 6, 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.

The song was also used in the 2020 Netflix movie The Babysitter: Killer Queen. It can be heard playing in the cassette player in Phoebe's rabbit hole.

The song was used in the first official trailer of The Matrix Resurrections.[29]

It's just lazy Hollywood shorthand at this point.

These trailers are all produced the same way the movies are, with deliberate beats and actions and highs and lows and pauses to elicit the exact response they want. And they usually work. Trailers are almost always better than the actual movie these days.

I believe the first teaser trailer for DUNE did the exact same thing with a popular Pink Floyd song. And I swear a recent one used a Bowie song for the same reason.

It's all manipulation.

I guess I've just spent too much time outside the Matrix. You guys see flashy action sequences and hear catchy music. All I see is the green code running up and down the screen.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Is the 1999 Mummy a classic movie?

Classic - judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind

No.

That's not an accident. Trailers use the same songs over and over and over to get a Pavlovian response out of audiences.

For the last few years they've been syncing the action up with the song (like in the original Suicide Squad trailer) to make the connection deeper, but it's likely the song won't even be in the movie.

This song was chosen cause it's already a pop culture cliche that was run into the ground decades ago. "Oh is something weird or trippy? Feed your head, man."

Just look at all the vomit from the wikipedia page for references to this song in pop culture.

Jefferson Airplane's version of White Rabbit is used in the "Underworld" bunker smoking scene in Platoon, written and directed by Oliver Stone, which was released in 1986.[27]

In the 1998 film Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Dr. Gonzo, high on LSD, is listening to "White Rabbit" in the bathtub. He asks Raoul Duke to throw the tape player into the bathtub when the song "peaks" but Duke refuses and throws in a grapefruit instead.

In the 1999 Futurama episode "A Head in the Polls" Richard Nixon sings an alternate version of "White Rabbit". In 1969, Nixon hosted a tea party for graduates of Finch College, and Slick was invited under her former name of Grace Wing. She brought a known political protester as her guest, and planned to spike Nixon's tea with 600 micrograms of LSD. He comments that he is meeting those 'stupid hippies' halfway by singing a song about an LSD trip written by a woman who attempted to drug him with it.

A remixed version of Jefferson Airplane's version was used as main menu theme for the 2004 game Battlefield Vietnam.

The song is also used in the 2016 game Mafia III, it can be heard on one of the game's three radio stations.

It is heard in Kong: Skull Island (2017) when Randa and Hawkins enter a bar in Saigon where Conrad is playing billiards.

Featured in a full-length commercial for the Xbox 360 game Lost Odyssey.

Jefferson Airplane's version appears in a 2020 TV commercial for Celebrity Cruises and in a 2015 feature film documenting the life of American chess Grandmaster Bobby Fischer titled Pawn Sacrifice.

Appears in American Dad Season 5, episode 1, when Steve is on his way to rescue his father Stan in a Vietnam war reenactment.

The song appears in The Sopranos season 1, episode 7, "Down Neck", over the ending credits and while Tony remembers his childhood after taking Prozac.

Used in the 1997 David Fincher film The Game starring Michael Douglas during the scene where Nicholas Van Orton (Douglas) comes home to find his mansion vandalized by CRS and photos and police reports of his father's suicide in the clown's mouth.

Jefferson Airplane's version was featured in a scene in the first episode of the Netflix show Stranger Things.

It was used in an episode of Warehouse 13 on the SyFy network. Pete and Myka go to Las Vegas to fetch an artifact, the Jubilee Grand Casino Chip, that is helping a married couple to win at the Casinos, but the mission goes awry because the real Myka is trapped in Lewis Carroll's Looking Glass with some help from Studio 54 Disco Ball.

The song is also featured in The Handmaid's Tale in season 1, episode 8, "Jezebels".

The song appears in an episode of Big Little Lies when Ziggy is suspended from school and spends the day with his mom at the Monterey Aquarium.

The song is also featured in the episode "Blue Scorpion" in Season 1, Episode 9 of the 2019 remake of The Twilight Zone.

The song is used in the beginning of the 10th episode of the 2nd Season of Supernatural, "Hunted".[28]

The song is used in episode 6 of the HBO documentary miniseries Q: Into the Storm in a scene depicting the January 6, 2021 storming of the United States Capitol.

The song was also used in the 2020 Netflix movie The Babysitter: Killer Queen. It can be heard playing in the cassette player in Phoebe's rabbit hole.

The song was used in the first official trailer of The Matrix Resurrections.[29]

It's just lazy Hollywood shorthand at this point.

These trailers are all produced the same way the movies are, with deliberate beats and actions and highs and lows and pauses to elicit the exact response they want. And they usually work. Trailers are almost always better than the actual movie these days.

I believe the first teaser trailer for DUNE did the exact same thing with a popular Pink Floyd song. And I swear a recent one used a Bowie song for the same reason.

It's all manipulation.

I guess I've just spent too much time outside the Matrix. You guys see flashy action sequences and hear catchy music. All I see is the green code running up and down the screen.

Get away from meeeee you red pill devil!!!! Time for another blue pill.

Maybe he serves a purpose for the machines with the position he has. Being a peddler of tech (if the leaks are true) helps to keep other humans enslaved. Could also be an easier way to keep an eye on him and control him.

Maybe, or Neo was the sixth anomaly, so to prevent the 7th from emerging, they keep the 6th anomaly asleep and under their control.

 

[TaliBane]

Classic - judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind

No.

Yeah, 1999 seems to get whole a lotta love on here, but to me the "yeah, it's okay" movies (grey) and the "nah crap" (red) movies seemed to have been about evenly matched with the "yup, nice" (green.)

Though I get that many would class TPM in the green category, and no one would put in the grey category.

(And yeah I get that this top 30 of 1999 misses some good stuff further down the list like Fight Club [only made $36m!] and gives airtime to crap like Runaway Bride and Gadget but the list was getting too long to display. )

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

The late 90's were kinda awful for movies. That list shows it.

 

[a-dev]

Same here. Robin Lefler is still my all-time favorite Star Trek character.

I didn't think plastic surgery messed up her appearance. I thought it was due to receiving regular botox injections to treat severe migraines.

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Yeah, she was a beaut in TNG.

 

[Dave_W]

Just look at all the vomit from the wikipedia page for references to this song in pop culture.

No mention of Sucker Punch? That's the best version!

 

[matticus]

Is the 1999 Mummy a classic movie?

I'd say so. Spawned a bunch of sequels that prob watered it down like The Matrix but still made a big impact.

Yeah, 1999 seems to get whole a lotta love on here, but to me the "yeah, it's okay" movies (grey) and the "nah crap" (red) movies seemed to have been about evenly matched with the "yup, nice" (green.)

Though I get that many would class TPM in the green category, and no one would put in the grey category.

(And yeah I get that this top 30 of 1999 misses some good stuff further down the list like Fight Club [only made $36m!] and gives airtime to crap like Runaway Bride and Gadget but the list was getting too long to display. )

Not saying I love many of them, but culturally, a lot of those movies are still referenced today and were a big deal back then.

 

[The Buffinator]

Yeah, 1999 seems to get whole a lotta love on here, but to me the "yeah, it's okay" movies (grey) and the "nah crap" (red) movies seemed to have been about evenly matched with the "yup, nice" (green.)

Though I get that many would class TPM in the green category, and no one would put in the grey category.

(And yeah I get that this top 30 of 1999 misses some good stuff further down the list like Fight Club [only made $36m!] and gives airtime to crap like Runaway Bride and Gadget but the list was getting too long to display. )

Double Jeopardy should be green, not red. Because Ashley Judd. Clown, how did you miss this????

 

[TaliBane]

Double Jeopardy should be green, not red. Because Ashley Judd. Clown, how did you miss this????

Yes, yes, AJ... but I have watched that movie within the past year and I can indeed confirm a red arrow on pure cheese scale alone.