The Penguin (The Batman) limited series | HBO Max

[Nick D]

He had a three hour runtime for character development, perhaps rewatch Batman Begins,
as that’s also “year one”, much quicker development in that.

Why wait till the end of the film when there was no guarantee as to how this would perform at the box office?

Now, people are more infatuated by a gangster Penguin than the lead in his title movie.

Don’t get me wrong, I absolutely want to see Bruce struggling, but not against someone as weak as this Riddler and his group of “snipers”.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

I've never seen Batman catch the Riddler or anything after that. I tried multiple times - including about 2 months back - and just kept falling asleep. I only read that Gotham got flooded and went into this series hoping I'd gotten enough context from what I do remember seeing. I think I'm getting away with it.

Narcolepsy? Or another one of those, "I just didn't like it..."?

 

[a-dev]

Narcolepsy? Or another one of those, "I just didn't like it..."?

There's something very

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about this response

 

[KitbashOfficer]

There's something very

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about this response

LOL, I was hoping for a more Irish response...like Gobsh*te.

 

[chrisstbh]

What a pathetic reason. His character was literally strangling Selina in the movie and he tortured and murdered her friend off screen. Why did he even sign into the movie?

 

[intothevoid]

Isn't that the whole point of the film? He starts off as "vengeance" (an angry entitled child) and realizes by the end that he has to become more, be better, lead by example.

I don't know the comics or canon or anything, but apparently this is based off his first year.

I understand the arc don’t get me wrong

But even year one batman had some training, preparation and a strategy - this guy seems to be making it up as he goes along. All this just makes Batman Begins and everything that was shown about Bruce becoming batman in the Nolan version all the more impactful in comparison. You want to show an established Batman, that’s fine. You want to show his arc of being an angry unprocessed man child with a gazillion dollars at his disposal, no problem, but make it somewhat believable.

Showing the joker at the end already in Arkham further weakens this entire premise - you expect me to believe such an amateur Batman managed to apprehend and get the better of the Joker? He couldn’t even get past an underwhelming Riddler. The joker would eat him alive.

 

[KitbashOfficer]

Showing the joker at the end already in Arkham further weakens this entire premise - you expect me to believe such an amateur Batman managed to apprehend and get the better of the Joker? He couldn’t even get past an underwhelming Riddler. The joker would eat him alive.

Actually I can believe it because the Joker doesn't usually have a plan - you just have to find him and apprehend him before his chaos goes any further. It actually goes even further as to why Gordon trusts him/works with him as prior to this story, he likely stopped the Joker's campaign of terror (whatever that was). Riddler mapped out his whole plan to get back at the city/system even past the point he was captured and locked behind walls. Bruce learned a valuable lesson: angrily punching everything won't work in every scenario. Gotta be better/do more.