The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC ( Comic and Un-aired Spoilers unwelcome!)

[The Mike]

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it's quite clear that shane had every intention of killing rick. BUT he has always been one conflicted, messed up SoB. and despite his plan, shane was clearly conflicted and confused in that moment when rick started talking him down from it. rick knew that was what he had to do to stay alive, so he used it to his advantage. some part of him was probably hoping that shane would still have the slightest modicum of humanity and sanity left, and stand down. but rick was under zero delusions that he would in all likelihood have to end up killing his best friend there and then.

I think in the past few episodes we've seen Rick teeter back and forth from this brink, whether or not he could openly kill the living. We saw with Randall and we saw it even with Dale, Rick is an idealist and an optimist who is trying to convince himself he isn't whereas Shane was a realist who's tactics may not have been appreciated by many but where more inline with staying alive.

Even after it was done, with Rick reacting, screaming, even trying to talk Carl out of seeing what he saw, shows that optimist, saying he wants to repair the group, etc. Rick's greatest enemy for surviving will always be himself ironically since that's what he claimed was Shane's biggest undoing.

Anyone else pick up on the 'zombie vibes' so to call it, during Shane's scenes throughout the last episode. For example, when he was debating what to do with Randall in the shed, his actions and expressions together with some atmospheric background music really helped to start what was about to happen to him.

I felt this anyway and thought it was well done.

I caught it definitely, it was like a slow turning which while artistically great, didn't make a whole lot of sense. It would have made more sense had he been bitten somewhere, looking out at window at the Walkers, the mannerisms, etc but as it was it was artsy for the sake of being artsy. A long foreshadowing for something that was supposed to be a shocker considering the larger picture and the build up from last season's whisper to the police guards to Randall.

 

[greygoose]

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A long foreshadowing for something that was supposed to be a shocker considering the larger picture and the build up from last season's whisper to the police guards to Randall.

Talking of that; the whisper. If Rick had been told about everyone being infected, he would have known that Shane would come back to as a zombie, right?

 

[The Mike]

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Maybe, maybe not. Rick is a half glass full kind of hero, I would imagine he would have more apt not to believe it. Personally I think by that point Rick had a feeling it would happen and that's why he was waiting around with Shane (other than lamenting what he had become).

 

[Kibagami]

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Talking of that; the whisper. If Rick had been told about everyone being infected, he would have known that Shane would come back to as a zombie, right?

If it weren't for Carl showing up; I think he would have finished off Shane after he calmed down.

 

[The Mike]

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Although one has to wonder (other than for drama's sake) why he wouldn't have just done it as soon as he died. They've said in various interviews that those with brain trauma wouldn't turn. Realistically if I were Rick, even after shanking him I would have shot him in the head and headed back for Glenn and Darryl.

 

[greygoose]

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Maybe, maybe not. Rick is a half glass full kind of hero, I would imagine he would have more apt not to believe it. Personally I think by that point Rick had a feeling it would happen and that's why he was waiting around with Shane (other than lamenting what he had become).

If it weren't for Carl showing up; I think he would have finished off Shane after he calmed down.

Yeah, I guess your right.

They did a great job with that scene. There was a nice shot of Rick and Shane coming to a standstill in the field, their silhouettes against the moonlight. Two best friends knowing that only one of them would live.

 

[Kibagami]

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Although one has to wonder (other than for drama's sake) why he wouldn't have just done it as soon as he died. They've said in various interviews that those with brain trauma wouldn't turn. Realistically if I were Rick, even after shanking him I would have shot him in the head and headed back for Glenn and Darryl.

Dunno; he just killed someone that he had known since high school. Shane ain't some random stranger. I'm close to a lot of my buddies and I've known them since grade school. I'd be shaken up a bit.

 

[a-dev]

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I want to watch this NOWWWWW!!! Still hours before I'll be able to.

 

[Kibagami]

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There was a nice shot of Rick and Shane coming to a standstill in the field, their silhouettes against the moonlight. Two best friends knowing that only one of them would live.

Great visuals for that scene. Yeah, that was well done.

 

[pixletwin]

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I want to watch this NOWWWWW!!! Still hours before I'll be able to.

7 hours until I can watch it.

 

[DFanatic]

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Haven't watched it yet but I also read Turtlepoops spoilers

Spoiler

so I know Shane dies. I wish that weren't the case, he's been a very engaging character.

Can't believe they banned the guy for something stupid as spoiling an episode. It's unfortunate... he claimed he had some inside info, looks like he was telling the truth.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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Killing Shane was a pretty emotional moment for him, and how long it goes before someone turns is not a cut and dry situation. I'm sure he would have finished the job, but Carl interuppted.

Lori's moment with Shane in this episode wasn't a character flaw of Lori - it was the writers giving him 'his moment'. Just like Andrea siding with Dale last episode, this episode Lori apologizes for her part in the mess, and thanks him for what he has done. That sort of closure can only mean one thing - you're toast.

And yea, I don't think it was the fact that Shane was going to die that was a big spoiler, but rather the exact nature of the death. Still, it was great to see just for the visualizes.

 

[pixletwin]

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Can't believe they banned the guy for something stupid as spoiling an episode. It's unfortunate... he claimed he had some inside info, looks like he was telling the truth.

I can't believe you deleted your previous post stating the exact same thing only to repost it again. :

Are you turtlepoop's second account or just his love interest?

 

[thenammagazine]

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Can't believe they banned the guy for something stupid as spoiling an episode. It's unfortunate... he claimed he had some inside info, looks like he was telling the truth.

Maybe it had more to do with directly and intentionally going against something the administrator of this website stated, than ignorantly posting spoilers openly.

 

[a-dev]

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Can't believe they banned the guy for something stupid as spoiling an episode. It's unfortunate... he claimed he had some inside info, looks like he was telling the truth.

He literally asked for it suggesting he does not care for this site and was deliberately intending to spoil the show for people here. Though I didn't realise he actually got what he asked for.

7 hours until I can watch it.

OK thats worse, I do expect to have seen the ep before 7 hours are up.

 

[hoodonit00]

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Talking of that; the whisper. If Rick had been told about everyone being infected, he would have known that Shane would come back to as a zombie, right?

That's why I think the zombies that were flashing was in Ricks mind. He knew Shane would turn. They showed him nodding his head realizing what he had to do. That's when Carl showed up. Remember he made sure that the 2 guys in the bar were both shot in the head.

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

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Man, last night's episode was pure awesomeness! (even after realizing that everything mentioned in the now infamous spoiler was slowly coming together) So far I've got every episode from season 2.2 saved on our DVR and just cant get myself to delete them no matter how many times we've watched them.

I'm thinking next week is gonna be the best episode yet (in terms of walker carnage). It's back to the basics, (in a George Romero sort of way and how he started it) with people trying to survive in an isolated farm house against an onslaught of zombies.

 

[The Mike]

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The question is Carl. He didn't know Shane would turn, he stumbled upon the scene and held the gun up to Rick. I think his shot was a way to sort of make up for his hestitation with Dale's Walker but in the grand scheme it left a strange feeling. Had Shane not turned yet what would have happened? Very different than the protective way it went down in the books.

 

[Michael Crawford]

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Oh yea, walker carnage! Can't believe I didn't mention that opening sequence, where they got their zombie killing on!

 

[OSCORP]

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Just watched iT omg omg omg!