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Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC

i just watched the first 2 episodes, and i gotta say i love this show! i've always been a huge zombie fan, and darabont has NOT skimped on this front. nicotero's zombie makeup effects are top-notch and the gore is awesome. i'm kinda surprised at how far they've pushed it, considering this is for tv. times sure have changed.

i never read the comics but there are a few things that seem pretty derivative (cough*ripoff*cough) of other movies. like the waking up alone in the hospital (28 days later), the pretending to be zombies (shaun of the dead), and the truck backed up against the steel shutters (dawn of the dead remake). i can kinda overlook those things, because all these scenes are well-executed. darabont knows how to squeeze tension from simple moments.

beyond all the obvious delights i mentioned above, the thing that i like most about "the walking dead" is the little human moments of emotion...

- the father in ep1 who could not bring himself to shoot his zombified wife, and then broke down in tears. i found it really poignant.
- rick returning to the bicycle girl zombie and saying "i'm sorry this happened to you" before putting her out of her misery.
- rick stopping himself from chopping up the "guts" zombie, then going thru his wallet to first find out who this person was (his name, his personal details, etc).

to me, it's stuff like that which sets the show apart from the standard schlocky horror fare with characters that are just zombie food. here, you actually care about the characters. the fact that there's been so much debate over the lori/shane/rick issue is proof that the filmmakers have succeeded in giving the characters depth and complexity. their act of "betrayal" is more cutting because we like rick. personally, i didn't like it when lori and shane got together, but i'll keep watching to see what develops before i make up my mind about them...
 
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Ah, so if Lori isn't to blame then Shane is? I don't see how he can be any more guilty then she is... And remember, I'm not a reader of the comic line, so my point of view only stems from the two episodes so far. I know that Shane is later made out to be some kind of ass but we've yet to see that in the show. That being said, what's the difference? He's looking for support and love just like anyone would be in such bleak circumstances.

Shane is a greater scumbag than Lori because he is taking advantage of the situation...the presumed death of Rick. He made his move during a moment of weakness by a grieving spouse......or so we're led to believe.:wink1:
 
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Great second episode.

My thoughts:

Shanes a doucher opportunistic slug.

Lori is punishing herself (consciously or subconsciously) for the guilt of leaving Rick by banging his best friend, at the same time assuring herself some form of protection since she sees Rick as her best bet of assuring her and her sons survival.

Rick is to "heroish" for my liking at the moment. I need to see some more flaws in him.

Not invested in any other characters at the moment.

Zombies were excellent in this episode as they were in episode 1.
 
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BTW, this idea that they'd go to the hospital to get Rick is pretty ridiculous. A hospital - every hospital - would be ground zero for something like this. It's where the early infected would go to die. It's where there's already a bunch of other recently dead and dying. The place would be crawling with zombies before they knew what was even happening. Not logical enough for you and you need proof? That's where hundreds of bodies are lying on the loading dock shot in the head, and there's a huge abandoned military presence - they're initial stand against the spread. The idea that you might even be able to get into the hospital at all in the early break out is pretty silly, as it would get quarantined first.

And you don't need to read the comics to think Shane is a ****** - we've already seen him show twice that he doesn't care about anyone outside his small circle, and if I had to bet, Lori and Carl would be sacrificed before he sacrificed himself. He's a stand up guy until there's a threat he percieves is a real one to himself - then he steps back to his true self centered nature.

I don't expect that I'm going to like Lori on the show any more than I did in the comics based on what we saw in the clip for this week. My problem with her isn't that she's sleeping with Shane or that she left Rick at the hospital - I get that. My problem with her is that she can't pick a side. In the first couple episodes, we see her frustration and anger at Shane for not helping others. In the clip we see her _____y attitude about Rick helping others. She wants her man to be a hero and help others, but only when she decides he should. And that drives me nuts.
 
Re: The Walking Dead - TV Series on AMC

BTW, this idea that they'd go to the hospital to get Rick is pretty ridiculous. A hospital - every hospital - would be ground zero for something like this. It's where the early infected would go to die. It's where there's already a bunch of other recently dead and dying. The place would be crawling with zombies before they knew what was even happening. Not logical enough for you and you need proof? That's where hundreds of bodies are lying on the loading dock shot in the head, and there's a huge abandoned military presence - they're initial stand against the spread. The idea that you might even be able to get into the hospital at all in the early break out is pretty silly, as it would get quarantined first.

And you don't need to read the comics to think Shane is a ****** - we've already seen him show twice that he doesn't care about anyone outside his small circle, and if I had to bet, Lori and Carl would be sacrificed before he sacrificed himself. He's a stand up guy until there's a threat he percieves is a real one to himself - then he steps back to his true self centered nature.

I don't expect that I'm going to like Lori on the show any more than I did in the comics based on what we saw in the clip for this week. My problem with her isn't that she's sleeping with Shane or that she left Rick at the hospital - I get that. My problem with her is that she can't pick a side. In the first couple episodes, we see her frustration and anger at Shane for not helping others. In the clip we see her _____y attitude about Rick helping others. She wants her man to be a hero and help others, but only when she decides he should. And that drives me nuts.

And probably at the time, no one knew what was causing the "disease". He was probably considered infected by anyone outside.
 
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I think that when we finally see Rick reunited with Lori we'll find out that Shane lied to her about Rick being dead so he could move in on her. I think I saw this after e2 but i did see a scene where
Lori is telling Shane that he is to have no involvement with her family going forward or something along those lines. She was very firm about it and he seemed a bit ticked.
 
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So far I've read up to #50 of the comic... Wow. :horror

If the tv show captures even half of what's going to happen... :thud:

:panic: Great read.
 
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Great second episode.

My thoughts:

Shanes a doucher opportunistic slug.

Lori is punishing herself (consciously or subconsciously) for the guilt of leaving Rick by banging his best friend, at the same time assuring herself some form of protection since she sees Rick as her best bet of assuring her and her sons survival.

Rick is to "heroish" for my liking at the moment. I need to see some more flaws in him.
Not invested in any other characters at the moment.

Zombies were excellent in this episode as they were in episode 1.

I'd imagine we'll see some kind of flaws in his character as the show goes on but I agree, not only is he set up to be the sypathetic character but also the hero. Let's get him a little dirty too... perhaps a menage a trios with the sisters, Andrea and Amy?...
 
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934 posts for a show only 2 episodes in? I hope we aren't the only ones talking about this show.
 
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I just watched the 2nd episode. I had no real interest in this show until I saw this thread last week and now after 2 episodes I am hooked. I hope it keeps going this strong and I would have left that jerk cuffed to the roof as well... what a putz. :)
 
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I just watched the 2nd episode. I had no real interest in this show until I saw this thread last week and now after 2 episodes I am hooked. I hope it keeps going this strong and I would have left that jerk cuffed to the roof as well... what a putz. :)

The fact that he SPITS on the other dudes chest and RUBS IT IN... Yuk.
 
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