I really hope they don't take Rick's hand. Even in the comics that just seems like a stupid thing to do to one of your main characters.
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I hope they do
I didn't like it at first, but he seems more or less just as capable without it. Takes nuts to do that to your lead character. Carl definitely needs to lose the eye in the show. It would probably be his left eye since it's the right in the comic since the Gov loses his left in the comic but it's the right in the show.
I don't see them taking Rick's hand. Specifically to differentiate from the comics, not to mention Kirkman has stated time and again how he regrets that happening in the comics because it limited things he could do with Rick. It also caused them some problems when the artists were drawing the panels.
If water is the source of the contamination none of the finger-licking/hand-touching is going to matter in regards to Daryl. It would have to be ingested to become sick. The promo image of Daryl wearing a makeshift bandana air filter around his mouth somewhat negates that---but maybe that was when/if they aren't sure what is causing the sickness.
I think we are going to see a number of deaths next episode. In the sneak preview of the season I saw on Amazon I think Herschel makes some statement like "We lost 12 today..." (unless that was from a prior season, but I don't remember that statement exactly).
With the weird little kids running around and Carol showing them how to use a knife I can see some sort of modification of the storyline where the kid(s) murders someone, Carl finds out, and kills one of them. Maybe Carol finds out and ends up killing herself (like in the comic book) for feeling guilty.
I don't know...all just conjecture. Would be pretty dark which this season is supposed to be.
If water is the source of the contamination none of the finger-licking/hand-touching is going to matter in regards to Daryl. It would have to be ingested to become sick. The promo image of Daryl wearing a makeshift bandana air filter around his mouth somewhat negates that---but maybe that was when/if they aren't sure what is causing the sickness.
I think we are going to see a number of deaths next episode. In the sneak preview of the season I saw on Amazon I think Herschel makes some statement like "We lost 12 today..." (unless that was from a prior season, but I don't remember that statement exactly).
With the weird little kids running around and Carol showing them how to use a knife I can see some sort of modification of the storyline where the kid(s) murders someone, Carl finds out, and kills one of them. Maybe Carol finds out and ends up killing herself (like in the comic book) for feeling guilty.
I don't know...all just conjecture. Would be pretty dark which this season is supposed to be.
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It's just odd that they're all infected, but a bite can make them turn. The virus must be dormant until a bite. But if that's the case, WTH was the original reason for infection? Probably by injection or as I said earlier, the airborne strain petered out.
And ew
The bite doesn't make anyone turn. DEATH makes everyone turn because the virus "activates" upon death, irregardless of the catalyst for death.
There was a hose running into the barrel Rick used to splash his face.
The bite still is the trigger to make them turn. Sure they die first, but they can't turn without a bite and or death.
We can only speculate what the original transmitter was.
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The way I understand it is that it's not the bite that turns them, but their mouths are so full of bacteria that the wound gets infected and causes a fever that eventually kills you.
People will turn without being bitten so the bite is not the trigger. As said above a zombies mouth is so full of bacteria that you will get an infection and die from it. I don't know about death but they say the komodo dragons mouth is so full of bacteria that you better hope you don't get bitten by one.
I think Biojex got it. Death is the only way to turn we've gathered that. This isn't a typical Zombie plague where you turn while you're still alive. The brain needs to die and then the stem takes over if you remember TS19.
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They can and do turn without a bite. Shane proved that. So did the old man at Woodbury. That's what the CDC doctor told Rick. Rick stated this at the end of Season 2. Might wanna rewatch those episodes.
They can and do turn without a bite. Shane proved that. That's what the CDC doctor told Rick. Rick stated this at the end of Season 2. Might wanna rewatch those episodes.
Alright there is a miscommunication here. I know that they can turn without a bite, I already said Death is the main trigger for it. Biojex raised a good point that they probably die from some kinda secondary infection from the bite which kills them which makes the plague take priority over the brain after death.
My point in the original post was that we don't know what the progenitor of the plague was and according to the history of it whoever was originally infected didn't immediately become a zombie from it and was probably killed for whatever reason which in turn produced the first zombie.
Came across this.
"The rule is: WHATEVER it is that causes the zombies, is something everyone already has. If you stub your toe, get an infection and die, you turn into a zombie, UNLESS your brain is damaged. If someone shoots you in the head and you die, you're dead. A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss, not because of the zombie "virus" - Kirkman
This is from the Wikia page and yes I know it's fan run but it comes to the conclusion as well that the Bites don't kill but their filthy mouthes do. Would this mean antibiotics could prevent the death?
Zombie Bites
Zombie bites do not kill because of the zombie pathogen, but rather the unsanitary nature of their mouths due to diet and decomposition. Scratches causing similar infections for similar reasons. Their mouths and saliva often contain several septic factors, specifically the bacteria: E. coli, Staphylococcus sp., Providencia sp., Proteus morgani, P. mirabilis, and multocida. The rapid growth of these bacteria tends to cause extremely virulent strains that are highly resistant to antibiotics, and most often lethal. It can be assumed, however, that an undetermined number of original "outbreak" cases involved recently-reanimated zombies that were relatively intact and "clean", biting others and still causing infectious deaths, indicating that there is a possibility of the zombie "virus" itself producing lethal, transmittable organisms within zombies upon reanimation.
Symptoms of infection
The first form of the infection was the transmission of the pathogen from an undead host to a living body via bites and scratches. The second form is already contained within all living people, and merely requires the death of the host to activate the zombie condition. The pathogen causing reanimation is not independently fatal and lies dormant within a host until the host dies of another cause. In the case of Walker attacks, the cause of death is generally infection by necrotic biological debris and other infectious agents contained in that debris (for example, saliva from a bite).
Symptoms of this massive and multiple infection include:
Fever/Delirium/Hallucinations
Chills
Nausea/Vomiting
Pale skin
Dilated eyes
Soreness
Fluid discharge
Fainting
Loss of hair and missing scalp pieces
Dehydration
Vomiting blood
Because of antibiotic resistance or inefficacy, and extremely fast growth rate of said bacteria, immediate amputation of the wounded limb is usually the most effective method of preventing systemic infection that eventually leads to death. Bites to the neck, head, or trunk are invariably fatal and cannot be treated.
If the wound is not properly cauterized, cleaned, and/or wrapped, however, amputation may not be enough to stop the lethal infection without medicine, and even then, survival rates are not easily estimated, as only one person (in each format) is known to have survived an amputation of an infected limb.
"The rule is: WHATEVER it is that causes the zombies, is something everyone already has. If you stub your toe, get an infection and die, you turn into a zombie, UNLESS your brain is damaged. If someone shoots you in the head and you die, you're dead. A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss, not because of the zombie "virus" - Kirkman
This is from the Wikia page and yes I know it's fan run but it comes to the conclusion as well that the Bites don't kill but their filthy mouthes do. Would this mean antibiotics could prevent the death?
Zombie Bites
Zombie bites do not kill because of the zombie pathogen, but rather the unsanitary nature of their mouths due to diet and decomposition. Scratches causing similar infections for similar reasons. Their mouths and saliva often contain several septic factors, specifically the bacteria: E. coli, Staphylococcus sp., Providencia sp., Proteus morgani, P. mirabilis, and multocida. The rapid growth of these bacteria tends to cause extremely virulent strains that are highly resistant to antibiotics, and most often lethal. It can be assumed, however, that an undetermined number of original "outbreak" cases involved recently-reanimated zombies that were relatively intact and "clean", biting others and still causing infectious deaths, indicating that there is a possibility of the zombie "virus" itself producing lethal, transmittable organisms within zombies upon reanimation.
Symptoms of infection
The first form of the infection was the transmission of the pathogen from an undead host to a living body via bites and scratches. The second form is already contained within all living people, and merely requires the death of the host to activate the zombie condition. The pathogen causing reanimation is not independently fatal and lies dormant within a host until the host dies of another cause. In the case of Walker attacks, the cause of death is generally infection by necrotic biological debris and other infectious agents contained in that debris (for example, saliva from a bite).
Symptoms of this massive and multiple infection include:
Fever/Delirium/Hallucinations
Chills
Nausea/Vomiting
Pale skin
Dilated eyes
Soreness
Fluid discharge
Fainting
Loss of hair and missing scalp pieces
Dehydration
Vomiting blood
Because of antibiotic resistance or inefficacy, and extremely fast growth rate of said bacteria, immediate amputation of the wounded limb is usually the most effective method of preventing systemic infection that eventually leads to death. Bites to the neck, head, or trunk are invariably fatal and cannot be treated.
If the wound is not properly cauterized, cleaned, and/or wrapped, however, amputation may not be enough to stop the lethal infection without medicine, and even then, survival rates are not easily estimated, as only one person (in each format) is known to have survived an amputation of an infected limb.
Deckard
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The bandanna over the mouth probably has to do with the fact that in one of the previews they are burning a pile of bodies rather than burying them.
averagejo
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RIP Violet
What are some of the new threats we'll be seeing this season?
Kirkman: Mother Nature is rearing it's ugly head at a time when we're completely incapable of combating it. This new threat is this Spanish flu-type sickness that is ravaging these people. That's really wrecking things for them.
I think hemmorhagic fever...
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averagejo
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Sheesh...What's with the bombardment of TWD commercials on AMC?!
thenammagazine
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